What do you think?
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Season 1: yes, it evened out his karma for what he did to Courtney (in my opinion).
Season 2: no, but it's the main point of drama for the gaffers now, so I'd say it's okay until the teams merge, after that I'd want it to stop (at least with Duncan).
Yes, Harold deserves to be bullied by Duncan for what he did to Courtney. Harold's actions were illegal and inexcusable in TDI.
In TDA, I'm a bit softer to him, but honestly, he doesn't deserve to be off the hook. Harold made no attempt to make amends to Courtney, and the fact that she comes back does not exonerate him.
Absolutely not. I'm glad that Harold did what he did. He messes around with the toughest characters of the show? They should have thought about it before undermining him. Just another series that protrays messages on how nice guys finish last. I'm personally not buying it. Courtney is just plain annoying and Duncan just doesn't seem to pick up on the fact that Harold has nothing against anybody. If you ask me, Harold did the right thing. It serves them both right for crossing the line and if Harold makes it further this season, even toward the end, I would be mighty fine with it.
Okay, so I can note that he did something inexcusable and unacceptable to the show- explains why that he's lost the most of the respect- but why should he try to redeem himself with Courtney? From all of the previous grudges that she has been and still holds against Harold, it doesn't look like Courtney's in a hurry to forgive him. And even before the whole incident occured, I seem to have recalled that she treated him badly earlier, and even if Harold were to attempt to make amends, Courtney would just rub it in his face, saying something like "that's more like it," or "I told you so," so why should Harold strain himself in trying to redeem his relationship? Also, don't forget the thing with Gwen and Trent. She broke up with him and I reckon that the recent 'Aftermath' will be the single and last time that people have filed complaints against Gwen, so she'll probably be off the hook. All right, so I could admit that what Harold did can't compare to what Gwen did, but I'm just saying, why in the world should everyone else who has done terrible-sometimes even more severe--things to a person and then be let off the hook (with the exception of Heather) whilst Harold just doing what he does as a gesture of defense?
Actually, during all of TDI, Courtney was never mean to Harold. She stated that he was a bad player at dodgeball (and he was, given that he couldn't throw and Leshawna easily threw him out), and said he wasn't strong enough to push back 7 people in a canoe. That's hardly mean.
Duncan was pretty mean to Harold, but Courtney was not. It was a sick game of revenge on Harold's part.
Whether or not Courtney would actually forgive Harold has nothing to do with whether or not Harold should do it. Harold has seen nothing of Courtney until now. Further, he already admitted that his actions were, in fact, wrong. That's the only given conclusion.
imverybasic wrote: |
Absolutely not. I'm glad that Harold did what he did. He messes around with the toughest characters of the show? They should have thought about it before undermining him. Just another series that protrays messages on how nice guys finish last. I'm personally not buying it. Courtney is just plain annoying and Duncan just doesn't seem to pick up on the fact that Harold has nothing against anybody. If you ask me, Harold did the right thing. It serves them both right for crossing the line and if Harold makes it further this season, even toward the end, I would be mighty fine with it. |
He gets to the F6 (final six in reality-speak), at least.
BrainMan820 wrote: |
Actually, during all of TDI, Courtney was never mean to Harold. She stated that he was a bad player at dodgeball (and he was, given that he couldn't throw and Leshawna easily threw him out), and said he wasn't strong enough to push back 7 people in a canoe. That's hardly mean. Duncan was pretty mean to Harold, but Courtney was not. It was a sick game of revenge on Harold's part. Whether or not Courtney would actually forgive Harold has nothing to do with whether or not Harold should do it. Harold has seen nothing of Courtney until now. Further, he already admitted that his actions were, in fact, wrong. That's the only given conclusion. |
There was no other way that Harold could have gotten his revenge. In spite of that, the only way that Harold could make Duncan feel the way he made him feel was to get to Courtney- try to throw him off his game-- he failed miserably for that. In my opinion, Courtney is not innocent in this because although she didn't bully him physically, she abused him verbally. She continuously hurt his feelings and kept treating him like he was worthless and not part of the team. Okay so what Harold did was unacceptable but, he's not the only character who has pulled an illegal stunt. Everybody makes mistakes at some point and cheats their way through the game every so often although in Harold's case, he did the right thing. In my opinion Courteny and Duncan should just grow up and stop overreacting and feel that they need to get revenge for everything. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but despite the stunt that he pulled, I honestly don't see any reason why Harold deserves to be rediculed. I don't hate Duncan but why start something with someone? Especially since Harold doesn't deserve any abuse from anyone considering that he did nothing wrong in the beginning.
I apologize for sounding harsh and I know that Duncan is at fault here but really, Courtney has to grow up. She's got to stop acting so overdramatic and feel that she has to get revenge on everybody for every trivial thing that happens. She's not perfect and eveybody makes mistakes everyday. And maybe if she was less uptight about things then Harold would have no trouble trying to redeem himself and no reason to go after her to begin with. Like let's just think about this for a moment... if Courtney was around a group of people and if one of them sneezed, would she vow to get her revenge on them for sneezing? Okay so this example seems a tad extreme and a bit nonsensical, but I'm trying to make a point. Courtney is the type of person who gets enraged too quickly and feels that she has to get revenge if something doesn't go her way. I mean, if you were around someone who was contantly demanding; always telling you what to do and verbally abusing for no reason, would you choose to make amends with them after a time you did something bad to them?
If what Harold did was so wrong, he should be given a different punishment or dealt with differently.
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I agree.
imverybasic wrote: |
There was no other way that Harold could have gotten his revenge. In spite of that, the only way that Harold could make Duncan feel the way he made him feel was to get to Courtney- try to throw him off his game-- he failed miserably for that. In my opinion, Courtney is not innocent in this because although she didn't bully him physically, she abused him verbally. She continuously hurt his feelings and kept treating him like he was worthless and not part of the team. Okay so what Harold did was unacceptable but, he's not the only character who has pulled an illegal stunt. Everybody makes mistakes at some point and cheats their way through the game every so often although in Harold's case, he did the right thing. In my opinion Courteny and Duncan should just grow up and stop overreacting and feel that they need to get revenge for everything. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, but despite the stunt that he pulled, I honestly don't see any reason why Harold deserves to be rediculed. I don't hate Duncan but why start something with someone? Especially since Harold doesn't deserve any abuse from anyone considering that he did nothing wrong in the beginning. I apologize for sounding harsh and I know that Duncan is at fault here but really, Courtney has to grow up. She's got to stop acting so overdramatic and feel that she has to get revenge on everybody for every trivial thing that happens. She's not perfect and eveybody makes mistakes everyday. And maybe if she was less uptight about things then Harold would have no trouble trying to redeem himself and no reason to go after her to begin with. Like let's just think about this for a moment... if Courtney was around a group of people and if one of them sneezed, would she vow to get her revenge on them for sneezing? Okay so this example seems a tad extreme and a bit nonsensical, but I'm trying to make a point. Courtney is the type of person who gets enraged too quickly and feels that she has to get revenge if something doesn't go her way. I mean, if you were around someone who was contantly demanding; always telling you what to do and verbally abusing for no reason, would you choose to make amends with them after a time you did something bad to them? If what Harold did was so wrong, he should be given a different punishment or dealt with differently. |
imverybasic wrote: |
Absolutely not. I'm glad that Harold did what he did. He messes around with the toughest characters of the show? They should have thought about it before undermining him. Just another series that protrays messages on how nice guys finish last. I'm personally not buying it. Courtney is just plain annoying and Duncan just doesn't seem to pick up on the fact that Harold has nothing against anybody. If you ask me, Harold did the right thing. It serves them both right for crossing the line and if Harold makes it further this season, even toward the end, I would be mighty fine with it. Okay, so I can note that he did something inexcusable and unacceptable to the show- explains why that he's lost the most of the respect- but why should he try to redeem himself with Courtney? From all of the previous grudges that she has been and still holds against Harold, it doesn't look like Courtney's in a hurry to forgive him. And even before the whole incident occured, I seem to have recalled that she treated him badly earlier, and even if Harold were to attempt to make amends, Courtney would just rub it in his face, saying something like "that's more like it," or "I told you so," so why should Harold strain himself in trying to redeem his relationship? Also, don't forget the thing with Gwen and Trent. She broke up with him and I reckon that the recent 'Aftermath' will be the single and last time that people have filed complaints against Gwen, so she'll probably be off the hook. All right, so I could admit that what Harold did can't compare to what Gwen did, but I'm just saying, why in the world should everyone else who has done terrible-sometimes even more severe--things to a person and then be let off the hook (with the exception of Heather) whilst Harold just doing what he does as a gesture of defense? |
OK. I agree that Courtney wasn't exactly NICE to him, but she didn't bully him as much as Duncan. If he had voted out Duncan instead of Courtney, I would have been more sympathetic to him. But Courtney did nothing but like Duncan, and have Duncan like her!
kittiekat10105 wrote: |
OK. I agree that Courtney wasn't exactly NICE to him, but she didn't bully him as much as Duncan. If he had voted out Duncan instead of Courtney, I would have been more sympathetic to him. But Courtney did nothing but like Duncan, and have Duncan like her! |