Nickelodeon (ended 2012)
| TheSchwab wrote: |
| Yeah, I was not dissing the ship derek/casey. I didnt have any ship for that show. I was just saying that it's not a wise example because of the circumstance of that ship. That's all. |
| SkyeNite wrote: |
| Point is popularity of a ship is probably not the deciding factor for the writers but I'm sure that they do consider it. To completely ignor a ship that is extremely popular with out good reasoning is just asking for ratings to slip. I mean alot of you will probably say that shipping doesn't matter and you would like the show reguardless but honestly, would you be AS excited for new eps if it wasn't for the shipping? I know that before I got heavily into seddie I would only watch iCarly if I was in the mood to watch TV and it was on. sure i loved the show then, but when I saw a commericail for a new ep I would just think "oh i'll have to try and remember to watch maybe" and then usually forget. shipping is a larger part of ratings then what most people think, I think. |
| Uranium_OJ wrote: | ||
You may not be a Dasey fan and that's fine, but over 95% of the show's fans WERE. And as I watched the series come to a close, I couldn't help but think that the writers should have dealt with the Dasey fans better, but the point is they didn't. They went where they wanted to go with the story, which is what most writers tend to do. I don't think that their relationship was out-of-question or "taboo". All writers have a reason to not give their fandom a certain couple on the show. They may see Dasey as unconventional, but given the circumstances (95% of fans being Dasey, and near the end of the show almost 100%), it would've worked out (more people happy rather than upset). Perhaps you think their relationship is not appropriate, but most fans didn't. Their fandom was almost all dasey, so it wouldn't hurt if they gave them at least a little of what they wanted. In fact near the end of the show, there were mostly the Dasey fans left. The show had gotten pretty bad, story-wise and character-wise. Just really dry. But this is something that Life with Derek fans would understand. I'm not going to go into detail. Besides, all I wanted to do in the post was show Schwab that I agreed with what he was saying - that most writers don't just "give" the fans what they want all the time. Perhaps I had forgotten that I wasn't talking to Life with Derek fans. |
| Uranium_OJ wrote: |
| No, *you're* missing the point of my original post. All I was saying was that seddie fans should welcome the Creddie kiss. I was trying to say that Dan could open doors for seddie after the creddie kiss. Schwab said that Dan wouldn't just give it to the Creddie fans because he's being nice; he would do whatever he chose for the storyline, regardless of what the fans wanted. Although I didn't understand what that had to do with welcoming the Creddie kiss or anything else in my post, I agreed that most writers would do what *they* thought best. That's when I brought in Dasey; my point was that fans don't always get what they want, even if they're the majority - for different reasons of course (like in the case of Dasey, the "taboo" side of it. But what about Miley/Oliver or any other couple who didn't get together?) the ultimate decision is in the hands of the producers/writers. Instead of looking at my argument, you decided to attack me on the basis of Dasey. The fact that you're ganging up on me for such a petty thing probably means that you weren't able to attack my main argument or you were just looking for a juicy topic to argue about for your own pleasure. And Schwab, it was done before, and not in the circumstance you're thinking of either *cough*. In a movie called Clueless. Two step-sibs get together. We could discuss Dasey all day long and how it could or could not be possible or how it is or is not taboo, but this *is* an iCarly forum, and it's also the one that brought us all together, so I'd rather just agree to disagree when it comes to Dasey. |
| HaydenAvery wrote: |
| the main point here is creddie has just as much chance of happening as seddie. Dan does what he wants for the show. now can we please stop arguing and wait for the episode to air before we get to 100 posts?! |
Okay, so this is going out to all posters who look down on the people who post things like "I'm going to kill myself if they put _____ and _________ together." This is going out to ALL of you, creddie/seddie alike (although I myself am firmly in the Seddie camp).
Now, if someone actually injured themselves over a TV show, yes, that would be sad. And some internet commenters can be mean personally to other posters ("This creddie/seddie video you made is the worst piece of filth and you should be ashamed to be born," etc.). But as for the people who threaten to kill/write hate mail/post their very vehement opinions of a shipdom...I think we can assume those are exaggerations.
To all of you who are like, "My God, seddie/creddie people who write that they're going to kill themselves if so-and-so are together are just SAD/PATHETIC/INSANE" um...have you ever heard of hyperbole? Everyone gets so excited about their favorite ship when something happens that they create these little mini-wars. Am I the only one who thinks it's more fun that way? Shooting people down for getting "too" excited is a) hypocritical for another shipper to do and b) it's kind of like when you get really excited watching shippy moments on TV and your mom comes in and says, "what's the big deal? it's just a show". Kind of a buzz kill.
I can offer a 99.99% GUARANTEE that no one (creddie or seddie) is going to kill themselves, etc. over whatever relationship develops. It's just more fun to speak in grand, sweeping statements when you're excited. When I was watching Gilmore Girls with my friend on her couch, we swore we would kidnap and threaten the writers if they didn't put Luke and Lorelai together. JUST IN CASE ANY OF YOU ARE FREAKING OUT, CALLING 911...we never actually intended to do this. We felt excited, and that upped the ante. It was fun.
This is the culture of the internet. Let it live.
| fierytopaz wrote: |
Okay, so this is going out to all posters who look down on the people who post things like "I'm going to kill myself if they put _____ and _________ together." This is going out to ALL of you, creddie/seddie alike (although I myself am firmly in the Seddie camp). Now, if someone actually injured themselves over a TV show, yes, that would be sad. And some internet commenters can be mean personally to other posters ("This creddie/seddie video you made is the worst piece of filth and you should be ashamed to be born," etc.). But as for the people who threaten to kill/write hate mail/post their very vehement opinions of a shipdom...I think we can assume those are exaggerations. To all of you who are like, "My God, seddie/creddie people who write that they're going to kill themselves if so-and-so are together are just SAD/PATHETIC/INSANE" um...have you ever heard of hyperbole? Everyone gets so excited about their favorite ship when something happens that they create these little mini-wars. Am I the only one who thinks it's more fun that way? Shooting people down for getting "too" excited is a) hypocritical for another shipper to do and b) it's kind of like when you get really excited watching shippy moments on TV and your mom comes in and says, "what's the big deal? it's just a show". Kind of a buzz kill. I can offer a 99.99% GUARANTEE that no one (creddie or seddie) is going to kill themselves, etc. over whatever relationship develops. It's just more fun to speak in grand, sweeping statements when you're excited. When I was watching Gilmore Girls with my friend on her couch, we swore we would kidnap and threaten the writers if they didn't put Luke and Lorelai together. JUST IN CASE ANY OF YOU ARE FREAKING OUT, CALLING 911...we never actually intended to do this. We felt excited, and that upped the ante. It was fun. This is the culture of the internet. Let it live. |
| fierytopaz wrote: |
Okay, so this is going out to all posters who look down on the people who post things like "I'm going to kill myself if they put _____ and _________ together." This is going out to ALL of you, creddie/seddie alike (although I myself am firmly in the Seddie camp). Now, if someone actually injured themselves over a TV show, yes, that would be sad. And some internet commenters can be mean personally to other posters ("This creddie/seddie video you made is the worst piece of filth and you should be ashamed to be born," etc.). But as for the people who threaten to kill/write hate mail/post their very vehement opinions of a shipdom...I think we can assume those are exaggerations. To all of you who are like, "My God, seddie/creddie people who write that they're going to kill themselves if so-and-so are together are just SAD/PATHETIC/INSANE" um...have you ever heard of hyperbole? Everyone gets so excited about their favorite ship when something happens that they create these little mini-wars. Am I the only one who thinks it's more fun that way? Shooting people down for getting "too" excited is a) hypocritical for another shipper to do and b) it's kind of like when you get really excited watching shippy moments on TV and your mom comes in and says, "what's the big deal? it's just a show". Kind of a buzz kill. I can offer a 99.99% GUARANTEE that no one (creddie or seddie) is going to kill themselves, etc. over whatever relationship develops. It's just more fun to speak in grand, sweeping statements when you're excited. When I was watching Gilmore Girls with my friend on her couch, we swore we would kidnap and threaten the writers if they didn't put Luke and Lorelai together. JUST IN CASE ANY OF YOU ARE FREAKING OUT, CALLING 911...we never actually intended to do this. We felt excited, and that upped the ante. It was fun. This is the culture of the internet. Let it live. |
| SkyeNite wrote: |
| QUOTE] There is just so much I see wrong with your post. I really don't see how someone can get so excited they would say "I'm going to kill myself if it doesn't happen." And it is SAD/PATHETIC/INSANE if someone says that, you need to get a life if your saying that, it is just a kids tv show. |
| HaydenAvery wrote: |
| the only thing that should die is this thread for a month! no ones gonna kill themself! |
We actually agree on something. lol.
