Why do you think he's weak while he isn't. Everybody agreed he is a firebending master. He may not be THE most powerfull, but still is strong. He is discribed as a firebending Master, firebending genius, living legend. So... he's quite strong.

And Axerendale, I get you point now. The most powerfull doesn't always win in fight. It also about tactics and stuff like that. But do you think Azula and Zuko are more skilled in fighting than Jeong Jeong?

Yeah, okey you're right about that. But Jeong Jeong is also a strong Firebender. And my question is: can he beat Zuko or Azula in an Agni Kai. I think yes, because Jeong Jeong has much more experience in combat.

Soemtimes experience counts for nothing. Check out the fight between Katara and Hama in "The Puppet Master". Or the Agni Kai between Zuko and Zhao in "The Southern Air Temple". Or any number of fights in which the gaang/other defeat numerous older, more experienced foes.

Okey, you've got some good points there. But Zuko had Iroh as teacher, and Iroh is one of the best. And Zhao wasn't a strong firebender. But I realy can't convince you that Jeong Jeong is a better skilled firebender than Zuko and Azula?? Well, than I'm realy going to give up now. My ranking is 1 Ozai 2 Iroh 3 Jeong Jeong 4 Sane Azula 5 Zuko. You've got anything about benders you wan't to discuss here?

Nope, you can't convince me - I'm far, far too stubborn

Fire:

1: Ozai

2: Iroh

3: Sane Azula

4: Zuko

5: Insane Azula

6: Jeong Jeong

7: Combustion Man

8: Zhao

Air:

1: Aang

2: Appa

3: Momo

Water:

1: Katara

2: Pakku

Earth:

1: Toph

2: Bumi

Well, maybe Pakku can't bloodbend because he doesn't even know it exists. It doesn't mean he isn't strong enough to learn it. And Katara was able to hold her own against Pakku because he was holding back. And not being able to metalbend doesn't mean you aren't a better earthbender. As far as I remember we didn't see Toph bend nearly a whole city all by herself. In fact, she even had trouble bending a tower. And btw, Iroh could beat Azula while she can use blue fire, and Iroh doesn't.

Yeah well, in that case Jeong Jeong can use blue fire, shoot lighting and use combustion. He's just never shows it.(that was sarcastic) I'm pretty sure Iroh can't use blue fire, cause if he could he would teach Zuko.

And Bumi isn't blind so he doesn't have that disatvantage. And you may be right about the tower, but we didn't see Toph bend a statue of 300 tons. Or a whole city. And being able to bend metal doesn't mean you are better at bending earth. I know some fighting skills that a friend of mine (who is nearly a black belt in Karate) doesn't know. But still I can't defeat him in a fight. But the skills I know are lethal, an more powerfull. But it doesn't mean I'm better at Karate of fighting at all.

And yes Pakku did hold back. He even said "I'm not going to hurt you". And I just watched the fight, and Katara didn't do that wel. Pakku easily blocked all her attacks and put up some good ones against Katara. She actually was helpless.

So, you get my point now? Being able to do stuff (bend stuff) another fighter (bender) can't do, doesn't mean you are a more powerfull or more skilled figther or better at Karate (or a better bender).

Okey, you're right. But do you get my point of that being able to bend metal doesn't mean you're also a better earthbender? Or with bloodbending and waterbending? Or lightning and firebending?

Katara didn't invent bloodbending - that would be Hama.