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    Jackson5050

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    I think Azula would eventually surpass Ozai, but hitherto Ozai is better than her. How quickly he generated lightning was a testament to his raw power and ability. Also, as Ax saidearlier...WTF was Zuko thinking when he made it a point to goad Azula into lightning bending, but then expecting Azula to direct lightning at him? He was such an idiot. One of Azula's main strength was her ability to manipulate her surroundings and people to her advantage. How ironic that Katara eventually defeats Azula by using her resourcefulness and goading Azula in to a trap.

    P.S. That Azula/Zuko video was well-done and humorous.

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    isabelwhatx

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    That's completely true about Zuko. I think he got too caught up in the moment of his almost triumph and wanted to rub it in Azula's face. Whoops.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    I think that within a couple of years (if she hadn't gone insane and spent her time practicing instead of consuming her time chasing Zuko/Aang) she'll be able to stand up to Ozai. Honestly, Ozai only has raw power. He really doesn't have that many good moves other than BAM shoot fire. Azula has that AND her superior intellect.

    Be fair to Ozai - his "BAM shoot fire" is superior to everyone else's in the show. As far as fighting style goes, I think that Ozai and Azula are very, very different. Ozai strikes me as the type who knows no special moves of his own - rather he has mastered every well known move completely, to the point that he can do it better than anyone else (eg: his lightning and flying abilities). Azula on the other hand seems more the type to possess a unique style of her own (AKA her blue firebending and prodigal lightning abilities).

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    isabelwhatx

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    That's true. But just having brute power won't get someone very far. Or so I thought... It would be interesting to see Azula in ten years and see where she is skill wise.
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    speechless8582

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    That's true. But just having brute power won't get someone very far. Or so I thought... It would be interesting to see Azula in ten years and see where she is skill wise.
    she probably won't be firebending anymore seeing as how she's in the crazy house. lol.
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    TitanPredator

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    SalKing2 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    tawn11 wrote:

    I feel like Azula didnt 100% fully win the Agni Kai. Although she did strike Zuko with lightning- an Agni Kai is an Agni Kai, a one on one with no interruptions. One person is to be defeated while another is to be the victor. I feel like Azula broke out of the Agni Kai when she targeted Katara, she is not part of the Agni Kai, therefore Azula also broke out of the Agni Kai when aiming for Katara.

    And before the Agni Kai, Azula said: "Just you and me brother". Not including Katara.

    Good point there. But my opinion is that Zuko is more powerfull than the insane Azula. Sane Azula is probably stronger than Zuko.

    i think they both, when sane, are evenly-matched.

    Well, Zuko admitted he'd need help when he thought Azula was still sane, so I think he's slightly less powerfull. But do you think there is a difference between most powerfull and skilled in fighting? Who will win. Bumi vs Azula Jeong Jeong vs Azla Jeong Jeong vs Zuko.

    Bumi vs Azula: Bumi Wins
    Jeong Jeong vs Azula: Azula Wins
    Jeong Jeong vs Zuko: Jeong Jeong Wins

    I actually think insane Azula could have beaten Zuko. Sure, she cheated and everything, but I believe Azula would have won using her remaining cunningness or insanity. But to me, I don't think anyone won the Agni Kai because Katara interfered due to Azula.

    Personaly I think Jeong Jeong can beat Azula to. I think Jeong Jeong could block Azula's fire attacks, and when Azula creates lightning it takes her a few seconds. In that time Jeong Jeong would probably shoot fire at her. He may not be able to redirect it but he won't be standing there waiting for Azula to hit him. He's not an idiot, like Zuko was in the finale. (He's maybe even wiser than Roku. Roku wanted Jeong Jeong to teach Aang firebending while Jeong Jeong knew he wasn't ready.) So I'd place Jeong Jeong over Zuko and he can beat Azula. Would be close call though. But if Azula is an adult she could beat Jeong Jeong, and Zuko to I guess. (BTW it's not guarandteed that Azula wasn't at the top of her firebending. Some people have reached their maximum abilities when they are very young)

    And I'm also sure that Bumi can't metalbend, but he's better at normal earthbending than Toph, so I think Bumi can beat her. He bended the statue of Ozai, and that was at leat 300 tons. Probably even more. And Toph has the big disatvantage that she cant see flying rocks. So Bumi would just shoot rocks at her from different directions and that it's over.

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    SalKing2

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    TitanPredator wrote:
    SalKing2 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    tawn11 wrote:

    I feel like Azula didnt 100% fully win the Agni Kai. Although she did strike Zuko with lightning- an Agni Kai is an Agni Kai, a one on one with no interruptions. One person is to be defeated while another is to be the victor. I feel like Azula broke out of the Agni Kai when she targeted Katara, she is not part of the Agni Kai, therefore Azula also broke out of the Agni Kai when aiming for Katara.

    And before the Agni Kai, Azula said: "Just you and me brother". Not including Katara.

    Good point there. But my opinion is that Zuko is more powerfull than the insane Azula. Sane Azula is probably stronger than Zuko.

    i think they both, when sane, are evenly-matched.

    Well, Zuko admitted he'd need help when he thought Azula was still sane, so I think he's slightly less powerfull. But do you think there is a difference between most powerfull and skilled in fighting? Who will win. Bumi vs Azula Jeong Jeong vs Azla Jeong Jeong vs Zuko.

    Bumi vs Azula: Bumi Wins
    Jeong Jeong vs Azula: Azula Wins
    Jeong Jeong vs Zuko: Jeong Jeong Wins

    I actually think insane Azula could have beaten Zuko. Sure, she cheated and everything, but I believe Azula would have won using her remaining cunningness or insanity. But to me, I don't think anyone won the Agni Kai because Katara interfered due to Azula.

    Personaly I think Jeong Jeong can beat Azula to. I think Jeong Jeong could block Azula's fire attacks, and when Azula creates lightning it takes her a few seconds. In that time Jeong Jeong would probably shoot fire at her. He may not be able to redirect it but he won't be standing there waiting for Azula to hit him. He's not an idiot, like Zuko was in the finale. (He's maybe even wiser than Roku. Roku wanted Jeong Jeong to teach Aang firebending while Jeong Jeong knew he wasn't ready.) So I'd place Jeong Jeong over Zuko and he can beat Azula. Would be close call though. But if Azula is an adult she could beat Jeong Jeong, and Zuko to I guess. (BTW it's not guarandteed that Azula wasn't at the top of her firebending. Some people have reached their maximum abilities when they are very young)

    And I'm also sure that Bumi can't metalbend, but he's better at normal earthbending than Toph, so I think Bumi can beat her. He bended the statue of Ozai, and that was at leat 300 tons. Probably even more. And Toph has the big disatvantage that she cant see flying rocks. So Bumi would just shoot rocks at her from different directions and that it's over.

    I think that some way, using her slyness and intellect, Azula could trump Jeong Jeong. I can just see it! Azula runs very fast, and she's quick with good reflexes, like in the Crossroads of Destiny and The Southern Raiders. I believe some way Azula can defeat Jeong Jeong and definitely triumph over her brother.

    For some reason, when I envision Bumi fighting Azula, I see Azula creating lightning while Bumi earthbends a rock under her and she goes flying in the air!

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    SalKing2 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    SalKing2 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    libraman_92 wrote:
    TitanPredator wrote:
    tawn11 wrote:

    I feel like Azula didnt 100% fully win the Agni Kai. Although she did strike Zuko with lightning- an Agni Kai is an Agni Kai, a one on one with no interruptions. One person is to be defeated while another is to be the victor. I feel like Azula broke out of the Agni Kai when she targeted Katara, she is not part of the Agni Kai, therefore Azula also broke out of the Agni Kai when aiming for Katara.

    And before the Agni Kai, Azula said: "Just you and me brother". Not including Katara.

    Good point there. But my opinion is that Zuko is more powerfull than the insane Azula. Sane Azula is probably stronger than Zuko.

    i think they both, when sane, are evenly-matched.

    Well, Zuko admitted he'd need help when he thought Azula was still sane, so I think he's slightly less powerfull. But do you think there is a difference between most powerfull and skilled in fighting? Who will win. Bumi vs Azula Jeong Jeong vs Azla Jeong Jeong vs Zuko.

    Bumi vs Azula: Bumi Wins
    Jeong Jeong vs Azula: Azula Wins
    Jeong Jeong vs Zuko: Jeong Jeong Wins

    I actually think insane Azula could have beaten Zuko. Sure, she cheated and everything, but I believe Azula would have won using her remaining cunningness or insanity. But to me, I don't think anyone won the Agni Kai because Katara interfered due to Azula.

    Personaly I think Jeong Jeong can beat Azula to. I think Jeong Jeong could block Azula's fire attacks, and when Azula creates lightning it takes her a few seconds. In that time Jeong Jeong would probably shoot fire at her. He may not be able to redirect it but he won't be standing there waiting for Azula to hit him. He's not an idiot, like Zuko was in the finale. (He's maybe even wiser than Roku. Roku wanted Jeong Jeong to teach Aang firebending while Jeong Jeong knew he wasn't ready.) So I'd place Jeong Jeong over Zuko and he can beat Azula. Would be close call though. But if Azula is an adult she could beat Jeong Jeong, and Zuko to I guess. (BTW it's not guarandteed that Azula wasn't at the top of her firebending. Some people have reached their maximum abilities when they are very young)

    And I'm also sure that Bumi can't metalbend, but he's better at normal earthbending than Toph, so I think Bumi can beat her. He bended the statue of Ozai, and that was at leat 300 tons. Probably even more. And Toph has the big disatvantage that she cant see flying rocks. So Bumi would just shoot rocks at her from different directions and that it's over.

    I think that some way, using her slyness and intellect, Azula could trump Jeong Jeong. I can just see it! Azula runs very fast, and she's quick with good reflexes, like in the Crossroads of Destiny and The Southern Raiders. I believe some way Azula can defeat Jeong Jeong and definitely triumph over her brother.

    For some reason, when I envision Bumi fighting Azula, I see Azula creating lightning while Bumi earthbends a rock under her and she goes flying in the air!

    I see the Bumi vs Azula fight exactly the same, but I believe Jeong Jeong is an equal intellect as Azula. I just see him blocking all her blast and when she generates lightning, in that time Jeong Jeong will knock her off with a powerfull fireblast. Azula is pretty fast, but Jeong Jeong can create this huge walls of fire. I know Zhao could bend his way through, but that takes some time. So as he had put op a wall of fire, and Azula is bending a way trough it, he just hits her. So in my opinion he can triumph Azula.

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    I hate to fling myself back into arguing with you TitanPredator, but there is no way in a million years that Jeong Jeong could ever outsmart Azula when she's at her best. He might be able to overpower her, I'll give you that, but outsmart her? No. Azula has shown tactical genius on a level that easily surpasses everyone else in the show - think of what she managed in Ba Sing Se. Jeong Jeong has thus far only demonstrated excellent abilities in the area of general philosophy and the ability to discern which elements people have mastered, as well as some firebending moves that were pretty spectacular, but have all been surpassed by some of the things that we have seen Azula do.
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    TitanPredator

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    Axrendale wrote:
    I hate to fling myself back into arguing with you TitanPredator, but there is no way in a million years that Jeong Jeong could ever outsmart Azula when she's at her best. He might be able to overpower her, I'll give you that, but outsmart her? No. Azula has shown tactical genius on a level that easily surpasses everyone else in the show - think of what she managed in Ba Sing Se. Jeong Jeong has thus far only demonstrated excellent abilities in the area of general philosophy and the ability to discern which elements people have mastered, as well as some firebending moves that were pretty spectacular, but have all been surpassed by some of the things that we have seen Azula do.

    Well, the main reasons I thought he might be the same level as Azula was mainly because he could see others level of power and what bending disciplines they can do. But I guess that's a different kind intect then. But Jeong Jeong was an honored admiral in the Firenation, a legend. So he must have some strategic abilitys. But you think he can overpower her, but not outsmart her. Who will win? Jeong Jeong in my opinion. But I still doubt that Azula was able to beat all that tanks if she had to, during the comet. Maybe not even with full sanity. And as I mentioned before, Jeong Jeong is only one in the series who can let flames burn on water. And the first one to leave the FN army. You can't just walk out of the army without being attacked and chased by someone.

    And don't see it as arguing. See it as a healthy discussion. I mean, we're not calling names at eachother, and we keep it polite

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    IrohtheTea

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    hmm

    i was wondering for a LONG time.

    Toph vs Bumi.

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    Waterbending: I seriously think Katara is the best waterbender, or at least she has the potential to be... Even when she didn't have training, she put up an awesome fight with Master Pakku (even though he was holding back, she still made it a fantastic battle to watch) and she has always been such a quick learner Even Master Pakku said she was the best student he'd ever had, (or that she's progressed quicker than any student he'd ever had, can't remember) and she can't have been training for more than 2 weeks. Hell, it took Hama years to fully master Bloodbending, it took Katara no more than 5 seconds. Although Master Pakku would probably never go all out on Katara (especially now that he is her to-be Grandfather), by the end of the show, I think it's safe to say she would take him to the limit. Also, Katara is the only known Waterbender that is able to do all kinds of waterbending... She could obviously control water, ice/snow and steam/fog/mist (she could also control clouds before her training with help form Aang) from the beginning, but she can also heal, plantbend (Well, I think she can? whatever you would call bending the water out of trees) and bloodbend now. We haven't seen any other Waterbender in the show to be able to do all these things (to the best of my knowledge). I would place Pakku second, Hama third (many people don't think she's that strong, but let's face it, she CREATED Bloodbending, possibly the most dangerous and lethal thing that can be practiced by any of the bending arts), and finally, Huu fourth (The man that controls plants and trees and lives in the swamp... Come on, who else could create a giant plant monster like that?)... The Moon and Ocean spirits own all though lol.

    Earthbending: This one is tricky... I'm honestly going to have to say Toph... She is arguably the most powerfull Earthbender in my opinion. Not taking anything away from King Bumi (Bumi's awesome), I think his Earthbending skills are greatness, but Toph is only TWELVE (Eleven? No she's twelve =P), and she has already defeated the majority of the Dai Li (in episode Lake Lougai... Weren't they originally trained by Avatar Kyoshi? I read that somewhere =S), is already the true creator of Metalbending (probably the most powerful form of Earthbending), has beaten SOME of the greatest Earthbenders in the world (see The Blind Bandit... That's what one of those boys referred to them as anyway) etc. I think as she grows older, she will be able to trump Bumi (Who in my opinion is her only true competition, and is already the oldest guy on the show). As for now, I am instead going to have to say Toph and Bumi are joint-first, with The Dai Li coming second, Long Feng third (He killed Jet, he's pretty vicious and he's smart too), General Fong fourth (The man in "The Avatar State" episode), Xin Fu or Master Yu fifth, The Boulder sixth, and someone like Hippo seventh. Haru and his father Tyro both seem to be powerful benders, but I wouldn't put either of them on my list. Do Badger Moles count? If so, I would put them between Toph/Bumi and The Dai Li.

    Firebending: This one is the toughest one... Ozai is undoubtedly the first... The small amount of time he took to generate lightning was amazing, and he just seems to find every single form of firebending easier than everyone else. Being the Firelord and the show's biggest threat from the beginning, he just seemed like the baddest man in their world. Also, the amount of fire he was able to shoot down from his one hand from the air, down to the Earth Kingdom in the finale, was perfect. He (literally) single-handedly created a gigantic forest fire within seconds. Also, the amount and size of lightning he can generate in just one move is almost as impressive as the small amount of time he takes to generate lightning... With Iroh and Azula, it takes both of them a good few seconds just to generate small-medium amounts of lightning, but he can create lightning with such speed and accuracy. He has a great deal of speed and strength. Iroh is the man though. I think if Iroh was younger, and in better condition (as in the Iroh we saw in the flashback with his young, now deceased son, Lu Ten, in the episode "Bitter Work", or even the Iroh we saw in book 3 while he was in prison, seriously working out (By the end of that workout he was built, muscled and in great condition.)) he would have a better chance against Ozai... The reason I say he would be better if he was in better condition, is (annoyingly) by the end of the show, he is still quite chubby, as opposed to the great form he was in while he was in prison... Its like they were building him up while he was in prison, and episode after episode he became more muscled, healthy and built, and then by the finale, he was almost the same weight he was when the series began... Kinda annoyed me... But if he was to get back into his prison-time condition (and he probably could), or if he was the young man we saw in the "Bitter Work" flashback, then that would be more of a match. He's not even sure whether or not he is capable of beating Ozai. Anyways, Ozai is the first, Iroh is second, And I honestly think I will have to put Azula third... Even though Jeong Jeong is much older than Azula, who's only Katara's age (14 years old), and obviously has much, much more experience than her (as he will of been a firebending master since before she was even born), Azula just has the tricky, MANIPULATIVE, conniving, intelligent way of getting things done. What can we say about her? She's simply the PERFECT villain. Like Katara and Toph, she is still only a young teenager (although she acts like a grown woman), and she is already a firebending prodigy. She is very wise and has great strategy in almost anything. She would find a way. I will still put Jeong Jeong fourth though. Azula is enough to get past Jeong Jeong, but Zuko isn't. Zuko doesn't have that intelligence and manipulative, smart strategy that Azula has to trump Jeong Jeong. He has been descibed as a legend and master, knows people by the time they've walked into a room, and as someone mentioned before, he was even smarter than Avatar Roku in The Deserter. Zuko is coming in at fifth. He is a very skilled bender, and is one of the only people (the others being Aang and Iroh, as far as we know) to know the true form of firbending. He is also one of the only people (again, the others being Aang and Iroh, I think?) to have re-directed lightning. He even beat Zhao at the beginning (someone with way more experience than him) and re-directed lightning for the first time against OZAI. He also should get props for being able to slightly re-direct lightning in mid-air (to save Katara against Azula.) Do Dragons count? I don't think they are the best anyways though, because many Firebenders killed them 100 years ago. They are OBVIOUSLY not easy prey, but they were extinct because of how much they were killed by people, making them appear as not so powerful. =S

    Airbending: Aang is the only one left... But Monk Gyatso (I know... deceased) was the greatest airbender in the world when he was alive, especially considering the amount of Firebenders he took down during the comet, before his death. Sky Bison are cool, but like The Dragons in Firebending, I don't think they are that great in battle. Apart from their tales...

    I shall stop now lol. =D

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    ThisCrazyGuy!!! on your first post, so much info..such raw intelligence. welcome!!!! u are greatly given sincere welcome to the boards. what a magnificent and clear-cut expoition!!!
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    Thanks libraman! =D

    I have loved Avatar: The Last Airbender since it first came out and I am deeply depressed its gone (it was my favourite animation)... Oh well, we still have the movies coming!

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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:

    Thanks libraman! =D

    I have loved Avatar: The Last Airbender since it first came out and I am deeply depressed its gone (it was my favourite animation)... Oh well, we still have the movies coming!



    you have joined at a minor time of our forums. there was a time that the forums were filled with people. now it's barely anything. so, crazy guy, explore out the entire forums and post!!! and i have posted on all the topics on the 1st page!!!
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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:

    Waterbending: I seriously think Katara is the best waterbender, or at least she has the potential to be... Even when she didn't have training, she put up an awesome fight with Master Pakku (even though he was holding back, she still made it a fantastic battle to watch) and she has always been such a quick learner Even Master Pakku said she was the best student he'd ever had, (or that she's progressed quicker than any student he'd ever had, can't remember) and she can't have been training for more than 2 weeks. Hell, it took Hama years to fully master Bloodbending, it took Katara no more than 5 seconds. Although Master Pakku would probably never go all out on Katara (especially now that he is her to-be Grandfather), by the end of the show, I think it's safe to say she would take him to the limit. Also, Katara is the only known Waterbender that is able to do all kinds of waterbending... She could obviously control water, ice/snow and steam/fog/mist (she could also control clouds before her training with help form Aang) from the beginning, but she can also heal, plantbend (Well, I think she can? whatever you would call bending the water out of trees) and bloodbend now. We haven't seen any other Waterbender in the show to be able to do all these things (to the best of my knowledge). I would place Pakku second, Hama third (many people don't think she's that strong, but let's face it, she CREATED Bloodbending, possibly the most dangerous and lethal thing that can be practiced by any of the bending arts), and finally, Huu fourth (The man that controls plants and trees and lives in the swamp... Come on, who else could create a giant plant monster like that?)... The Moon and Ocean spirits own all though lol.

    Earthbending: This one is tricky... I'm honestly going to have to say Toph... She is arguably the most powerfull Earthbender in my opinion. Not taking anything away from King Bumi (Bumi's awesome), I think his Earthbending skills are greatness, but Toph is only TWELVE (Eleven? No she's twelve =P), and she has already defeated the majority of the Dai Li (in episode Lake Lougai... Weren't they originally trained by Avatar Kyoshi? I read that somewhere =S), is already the true creator of Metalbending (probably the most powerful form of Earthbending), has beaten SOME of the greatest Earthbenders in the world (see The Blind Bandit... That's what one of those boys referred to them as anyway) etc. I think as she grows older, she will be able to trump Bumi (Who in my opinion is her only true competition, and is already the oldest guy on the show). As for now, I am instead going to have to say Toph and Bumi are joint-first, with The Dai Li coming second, Long Feng third (He killed Jet, he's pretty vicious and he's smart too), General Fong fourth (The man in "The Avatar State" episode), Xin Fu or Master Yu fifth, The Boulder sixth, and someone like Hippo seventh. Haru and his father Tyro both seem to be powerful benders, but I wouldn't put either of them on my list. Do Badger Moles count? If so, I would put them between Toph/Bumi and The Dai Li.

    Firebending: This one is the toughest one... Ozai is undoubtedly the first... The small amount of time he took to generate lightning was amazing, and he just seems to find every single form of firebending easier than everyone else. Being the Firelord and the show's biggest threat from the beginning, he just seemed like the baddest man in their world. Also, the amount of fire he was able to shoot down from his one hand from the air, down to the Earth Kingdom in the finale, was perfect. He (literally) single-handedly created a gigantic forest fire within seconds. Also, the amount and size of lightning he can generate in just one move is almost as impressive as the small amount of time he takes to generate lightning... With Iroh and Azula, it takes both of them a good few seconds just to generate small-medium amounts of lightning, but he can create lightning with such speed and accuracy. He has a great deal of speed and strength. Iroh is the man though. I think if Iroh was younger, and in better condition (as in the Iroh we saw in the flashback with his young, now deceased son, Lu Ten, in the episode "Bitter Work", or even the Iroh we saw in book 3 while he was in prison, seriously working out (By the end of that workout he was built, muscled and in great condition.)) he would have a better chance against Ozai... The reason I say he would be better if he was in better condition, is (annoyingly) by the end of the show, he is still quite chubby, as opposed to the great form he was in while he was in prison... Its like they were building him up while he was in prison, and episode after episode he became more muscled, healthy and built, and then by the finale, he was almost the same weight he was when the series began... Kinda annoyed me... But if he was to get back into his prison-time condition (and he probably could), or if he was the young man we saw in the "Bitter Work" flashback, then that would be more of a match. He's not even sure whether or not he is capable of beating Ozai. Anyways, Ozai is the first, Iroh is second, And I honestly think I will have to put Azula third... Even though Jeong Jeong is much older than Azula, who's only Katara's age (14 years old), and obviously has much, much more experience than her (as he will of been a firebending master since before she was even born), Azula just has the tricky, MANIPULATIVE, conniving, intelligent way of getting things done. What can we say about her? She's simply the PERFECT villain. Like Katara and Toph, she is still only a young teenager (although she acts like a grown woman), and she is already a firebending prodigy. She is very wise and has great strategy in almost anything. She would find a way. I will still put Jeong Jeong fourth though. Azula is enough to get past Jeong Jeong, but Zuko isn't. Zuko doesn't have that intelligence and manipulative, smart strategy that Azula has to trump Jeong Jeong. He has been descibed as a legend and master, knows people by the time they've walked into a room, and as someone mentioned before, he was even smarter than Avatar Roku in The Deserter. Zuko is coming in at fifth. He is a very skilled bender, and is one of the only people (the others being Aang and Iroh, as far as we know) to know the true form of firbending. He is also one of the only people (again, the others being Aang and Iroh, I think?) to have re-directed lightning. He even beat Zhao at the beginning (someone with way more experience than him) and re-directed lightning for the first time against OZAI. He also should get props for being able to slightly re-direct lightning in mid-air (to save Katara against Azula.) Do Dragons count? I don't think they are the best anyways though, because many Firebenders killed them 100 years ago. They are OBVIOUSLY not easy prey, but they were extinct because of how much they were killed by people, making them appear as not so powerful. =S

    Airbending: Aang is the only one left... But Monk Gyatso (I know... deceased) was the greatest airbender in the world when he was alive, especially considering the amount of Firebenders he took down during the comet, before his death. Sky Bison are cool, but like The Dragons in Firebending, I don't think they are that great in battle. Apart from their tales...

    I shall stop now lol. =D

    Welcom to the forum! Nice story, you sure know lot's about Avatar. I just don't agree with you on 2 points.

    1 About Azula being able to defeat Jeong Jeong. Because of his experience and awesome wisdom, I don't think he'll fall for Azula's tricks and manipulations. And when Azula generates lightning, it takes her a few seconds to do so. Jeong Jeong isn't going to wait for her to shoot, so lightning and tricks will be quite useles to beat him, and as for raw power, I think Jeong Jeong surpasses her in that. He will just block her blasts, and when she generates lightning, he will probably stike her with fire.

    2 And I think Bumi is better then Toph, Toph can metalbend and is only 12. She is arguably the most talented bender in the entire series. But Bumi surpasses her in regular earthbending. Bending a statue of 300+ tons. And nearly his entire city. I doubt Toph can do that. And Toph has the big disatvantage she can't see flying objects. Bumi can just shoot a rock at her, and then it's over.

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    libraman_92

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    bumi could also learn metalbending waaay quicker than it took toph, too. and jeong-jeong is also so much more powerful than azula. he'll not just wait for her lightning. he'll overpower her!!!
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    ThisCrazyGuy

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    I suppose I can agree with those two things... =D

    I still think Toph is the best Earthbender in the show though, the fact that at such a young age, Toph is capable of being compared to King Bumi, who is literally 100 years older than her, makes me think she will surpass him one day. Maybe she's even better than him now...? Who knows... I don't think it would be THAT easy for him to take out Toph, even if he did win. And even though she would not be able to feel the flying rocks vibrations, doesn't an Earthbender need to TOUCH the ground in order for ANY Earth to be bent? I think she could encase King Bumi as soon as he touched the ground, especially if there was any metal around.

    I'm actually about to contradict my self, but if King Bumi could concentrate enough to attract all Earth with his face, he could possibly beat her, but I honestly think it would end up being a draw. Toph has very quick, agile reactions to attacks, and King Bumi is getting up there in the ages. I think it's amazing how a 12 year old blind girl's earthbending abilities are capable of rivalling King Bumi's (who is exactly 100 years older than her) skills. I just can't picture Toph losing, especially not that easily.

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    ThisCrazyGuy

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    I COMPLETELY AGREE ABOUT JEONG JEONG THOUGH.

    His abilities can even rival Iroh's... Being able to concentrate flames on water, a skill that has only been demonstrated by him. He is older, more experienced, wiser and probably more powerful tha Azula. Your definitely right on that one. =]

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    libraman_92

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    ThisCrazyGuy wrote:

    I COMPLETELY AGREE ABOUT JEONG JEONG THOUGH.

    His abilities can even rival Iroh's... Being able to concentrate flames on water, a skill that has only been demonstrated by him. He is older, more experienced, wiser and probably more powerful tha Azula. Your definitely right on that one. =]



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