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    avalame122

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    Spacerac wrote:
    Iroh: Fire is the element of power. The people of the Fire Nation have desire and will, and the energy and drive to achieve what they want. Earth is the element of substance. The people of the Earth Kingdom are diverse and strong. They are persistent and enduring. Air is the element of freedom. The Air Nomads detached themselves from worldly concerns and found peace and freedom. Also, they apparently had pretty good senses of humor! (Iroh smiles widely, but Zuko
    doesn't react.) Water is the element of change. The people of the Water Tribe are capable of adapting to many things. They have a deep sense of community and love that holds them together through anything.
    Zuko: Why are you telling me these things‌
    Iroh: It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. (He draws lines separating the four symbols in the dirt.) Understanding others, the other elements, and the other nations will help you become whole.
    Zuko: All this four elements talk is sounding like Avatar stuff.
    Iroh: It is the combination of the four elements in one person that makes the Avatar so powerful.

    Weak "no explanation' argument is weak.

    Actually, this proves it.

    Bending was never explained on how it works.
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    edmasterchaos

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    MarryLarry wrote:

    People, don't respond to this thread. It's just Naruto fans trying to make themselves feel better by saying their show is superior while calling it 'a friendly debate' so the mods don't TOS them. No matter how logical or insulting your comments are, they'll never agree with you. Let it go.

    I know, but im kinda bored today ^_^;; if things go too far i'll stop.
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    zukofangirl2006

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    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

    That's a good one.

    Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

    And with that, I hereby flame:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

    If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

    Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

    Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

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    Eddy654

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    Spacerac wrote:
    Iroh: Fire is the element of power. The people of the Fire Nation have desire and will, and the energy and drive to achieve what they want. Earth is the element of substance. The people of the Earth Kingdom are diverse and strong. They are persistent and enduring. Air is the element of freedom. The Air Nomads detached themselves from worldly concerns and found peace and freedom. Also, they apparently had pretty good senses of humor! (Iroh smiles widely, but Zuko
    doesn't react.) Water is the element of change. The people of the Water Tribe are capable of adapting to many things. They have a deep sense of community and love that holds them together through anything.
    Zuko: Why are you telling me these things??
    Iroh: It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. (He draws lines separating the four symbols in the dirt.) Understanding others, the other elements, and the other nations will help you become whole.
    Zuko: All this four elements talk is sounding like Avatar stuff.
    Iroh: It is the combination of the four elements in one person that makes the Avatar so powerful.

    Weak "no explanation' argument is weak.
    Well they try to make the humor funny but they end up ruining it. I mean some parts are funny emphasis on the some.
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    Spacerac

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    Slow person is slow.
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    PerfectAgent96

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    Ravel93 wrote:
    Well I've got a question for you. Why is Naruto so great? There are TONS of better anime out there. (Death Note, Bleach, YuYu Hakusho, King of Bandit Jing, the list goes on and on). And besides, you shouldn't compare Avatar and Naruto, considering that Avatar isn't an anime. You should be comparing Avatar with stuff like Ben 10 and Teen Titans. If you compare it with stuff like that, that's where you see the appeal.
    You do not compare avatar to Ben10 and Teen Titans. That's downright Insulting. That's like comparing a walnut to a diamond.

    Spacerac wrote:
    Iroh: Fire is the element of power. The people of the Fire Nation have desire and will, and the energy and drive to achieve what they want. Earth is the element of substance. The people of the Earth Kingdom are diverse and strong. They are persistent and enduring. Air is the element of freedom. The Air Nomads detached themselves from worldly concerns and found peace and freedom. Also, they apparently had pretty good senses of humor! (Iroh smiles widely, but Zuko
    doesn't react.) Water is the element of change. The people of the Water Tribe are capable of adapting to many things. They have a deep sense of community and love that holds them together through anything.
    Zuko: Why are you telling me these things??
    Iroh: It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. (He draws lines separating the four symbols in the dirt.) Understanding others, the other elements, and the other nations will help you become whole.
    Zuko: All this four elements talk is sounding like Avatar stuff.
    Iroh: It is the combination of the four elements in one person that makes the Avatar so powerful.

    Weak "no explanation' argument is weak.
    How the hell is that an explanation. That doesn't say how it WORKS. It just describes them very poetically.
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    MaddoKos

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    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

    That's a good one.

    Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

    And with that, I hereby flame:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

    If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.


    Well, first of all, they don't need more than 3 seasons to tell the story. There aren't endless, useless filler episodes.

    Secondly: Nick's to blame for the relatively short run.
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    avalame122

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    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

    That's a good one.

    Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

    And with that, I hereby flame:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

    If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

    Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

    Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.


    Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.
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    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

    That's a good one.

    Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

    And with that, I hereby flame:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

    If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

    Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

    Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

    You must not watch Naruto because every Naruto chapter has a chunk of its original story.
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    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Adding to your statement Spacerac:

    And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

    Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.
    CoD?


    Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much.

    The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny.

    Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him.

    Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?
    Well Aang was just floating in space a free target. In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.


    Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Sasori could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.
    Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.
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    Juushiro86

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    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Adding to your statement Spacerac: And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up. Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.
    CoD?
    Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much. The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny. Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him. Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?
    Well Aang was just floating in space a free target. In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.
    Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Sasori could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.
    Sasori uses puppets -_- Deidara uses clay...besides if your refering to naruto gaining the chakra cloak then any attack is pretty much useless as the cloak protects him from pretty much anything, of course the cloak also has an adverse effect and hurts naruto as well as protects him
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    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    Iroh: Fire is the element of power. The people of the Fire Nation have desire and will, and the energy and drive to achieve what they want. Earth is the element of substance. The people of the Earth Kingdom are diverse and strong. They are persistent and enduring. Air is the element of freedom. The Air Nomads detached themselves from worldly concerns and found peace and freedom. Also, they apparently had pretty good senses of humor! (Iroh smiles widely, but Zuko doesn't react.) Water is the element of change. The people of the Water Tribe are capable of adapting to many things. They have a deep sense of community and love that holds them together through anything. Zuko: Why are you telling me these things Iroh: It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. (He draws lines separating the four symbols in the dirt.) Understanding others, the other elements, and the other nations will help you become whole. Zuko: All this four elements talk is sounding like Avatar stuff. Iroh: It is the combination of the four elements in one person that makes the Avatar so powerful. Weak "no explanation' argument is weak.
    Actually, this proves it. Bending was never explained on how it works.

    "The energy extends past your limbs and becomes fire."

    If I could remember the rest of the quote there'd be a much better argument here.

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    MarryLarry

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    edmasterchaos wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    People, don't respond to this thread. It's just Naruto fans trying to make themselves feel better by saying their show is superior while calling it 'a friendly debate' so the mods don't TOS them. No matter how logical or insulting your comments are, they'll never agree with you. Let it go.

    I know, but im kinda bored today ^_^;; if things go too far i'll stop.

    You can debate if you want. I'm just saying don't get frustrated because that's their way of winning.

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    Eddy654

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

    That's a good one.

    Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

    And with that, I hereby flame:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

    If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.


    Well, first of all, they don't need more than 3 seasons to tell the story. There aren't endless, useless filler episodes.

    Secondly: Nick's to blame for the relatively short run.
    If it had a stronger story maybe they could of pulled off more than 3 seasons.
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    Spacerac

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    The "no on screen" death thing is mainly the network censors fault, not the creators. Why can't you guys just deal with it that Avatar is just as good or better than Naruto?
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    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Adding to your statement Spacerac:

    And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

    Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.
    CoD?


    Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much.

    The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny.

    Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him.

    Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?
    Well Aang was just floating in space a free target. In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.


    Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Sasori could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

    They need Naruto alive. Duh.
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    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    Adding to your statement Spacerac:

    And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

    Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.
    CoD?


    Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much.

    The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny.

    Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him.

    Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?
    Well Aang was just floating in space a free target. In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.


    Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.
    Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.


    I see, waging war then, let's go.

    B.O.T.: Draggin it out, let's take the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru's stab for instance.

    (Now who in the WORLD can stay in that same position for 3 episodes straight!?, now my little brother's a Narutard to the death but even he thought it was kinda weird that they could do that.)
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    Eddy654

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    Spacerac wrote:
    The "no on screen" death thing is mainly the network censors fault, not the creators. Why can't you guys just deal with it that Avatar is just as good or better than Naruto?
    I'll just as good not better.
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    PerfectAgent96

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.
    Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

    That's a good one.

    Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

    And with that, I hereby flame:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

    If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.


    Well, first of all, they don't need more than 3 seasons to tell the story. There aren't endless, useless filler episodes.

    Secondly: Nick's to blame for the relatively short run.
    Um...no Avatar has a weak run because the writers can't find a tv show to rip off that won't be noticable to the average watcher. They've ran out of ideas to steal.
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    Eddy654

    [100]Jun 20, 2008
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    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
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    Adding to your statement Spacerac: And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up. Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.
    CoD?
    Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much. The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny. Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him. Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?
    Well Aang was just floating in space a free target. In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.
    Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.
    Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.
    I see, waging war then, let's go. B.O.T.: Draggin it out, let's take the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru's stab for instance. (Now who in the WORLD can stay in that same position for 3 episodes straight!?, now my little brother's a Narutard to the death but even he thought it was kinda weird that they could do that.)
    Yeah that is wierd but you know what both of them were eagerly trying to kill each other. Thats just the anime the manga cut most of the whole fight out and only put in the necissary things.
    Edited on 06/20/2008 6:21pm
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