Avatar: The Last Airbender: Why is this so great.

blackfire_bird
[101]Jun 20, 2008
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Spacerac wrote:

The "no on screen" death thing is mainly the network censors fault, not the creators. Why can't you guys just deal with it that Avatar is just as good or better than Naruto?

Forget the "as" my friend just forget it.
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MaddoKos

[102]Jun 20, 2008

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avalame122 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.

List of characters that have died:

Yue
Zhao
Jet
Combustion Man

Not to mention a ton of implied deaths.

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uchia2000

[103]Jun 20, 2008

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Eddy654 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much.

The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny.

Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him.

Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.

I see, waging war then, let's go.

B.O.T.: Draggin it out, let's take the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru's stab for instance.

(Now who in the WORLD can stay in that same position for 3 episodes straight!?, now my little brother's a Narutard to the death but even he thought it was kinda weird that they could do that.)

Yeah that is wierd but you know what both of them were eagerly trying to kill each other.

Ya it was more about a battle of willpower than anything.

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SilverFlames

[104]Jun 20, 2008

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Eddy654 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

The "no on screen" death thing is mainly the network censors fault, not the creators. Why can't you guys just deal with it that Avatar is just as good or better than Naruto?

I'ts just as good not better.

I had to correct that

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PerfectAgent96

[105]Jun 20, 2008

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SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.

THe Third Hokage is a MASTER ninja, who's been a ninja for about 50 years, of course he's learn to take pain. And plus 3 episodes is NOT the time span we think it is. The battle was actually only an hour.

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zukofangirl2006

[106]Jun 20, 2008

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avalame122 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.

Nick restrictions.

Jet, Aang. Not many deaths, it's true, but you feel it.

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Spacerac
[107]Jun 20, 2008
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avalame122 wrote:

Too mature for you?
With an audience of mostly 13 year old boys and fangirls while Avatar has an audience outside it's intended demo including adults in their 20s, 30s, and 40s right?
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MaddoKos

[108]Jun 20, 2008

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Eddy654 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

You must not watch Naruto because every Naruto chapter has a chunk of its original story.

Hard to tell between all the goofing around and boring infodump the characters spout.

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Eddy654

[109]Jun 20, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

avalame122 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.

List of characters that have died:

Yue
Zhao
Jet
Combustion Man

Not to mention a ton of implied deaths.

Thats it theres a ton of main charcters that od died in Naruto.

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uchia2000

[110]Jun 20, 2008

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Spacerac wrote:

avalame122 wrote:

Too mature for you?

With an audience of mostly 13 year old boys and fangirls while Avatar has an audience outside it's intended demo including adults in their 20s, 30s, and 40s right?

No you got that backwards.

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SilverFlames

[111]Jun 20, 2008

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PerfectAgent96 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.

Well lookey here. Narutards since you started this. Let me say it like it was said during the KCA Riots:

"We've always had the shorter end of the stick, our own channel doesn't show our own show."

And since it ain't even close to as overrated as Naruto is...
Overrated does not mean that it's good though.

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Eddy654

[112]Jun 20, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

You must not watch Naruto because every Naruto chapter has a chunk of its original story.

Hard to tell between all the goofing around and boring infodump the characters spout.

I think your confused.

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PerfectAgent96

[113]Jun 20, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

avalame122 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.

List of characters that have died:

Yue
Zhao
Jet
Combustion Man

Not to mention a ton of implied deaths.

ZOMG FOUR charcters....wow...just...wow.

MaddoKos wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

You must not watch Naruto because every Naruto chapter has a chunk of its original story.

Hard to tell between all the goofing around and boring infodump the characters spout.

And Aang doesn't goof around and act like an idiot

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uchia2000

[114]Jun 20, 2008

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Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

avalame122 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.

List of characters that have died:

Yue
Zhao
Jet
Combustion Man

Not to mention a ton of implied deaths.

Thats it theres a ton of main charcters that od died in Naruto.

When a character dies in Naruto it is much more tragic because they have been in the story longer. In Avatar they come and die too fast you don't feel anything.

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edmasterchaos
[115]Jun 20, 2008
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*sigh*
Bending altough it hasn't been actually explained, should work like this:
The spiritual energy of a person, wich is affeced by the location of birth or family, is always the same, so if someone is born with enough spiritual energy, that person will be a bender his entire life.
Now, if a person is born in the Fire Nation, or his family are Fire Benders, and said person has enough spiritual energy, then, that person will become a Fire Bender.

Now, once a person is born a Bender, that person uses his Chi to move an element, AKA bending.

Chi is very different for every type of bender.

An Avatar, is a person with a spirit that allows him to have pure Chi, wich allows him to manipulate all the elements.

For the Chi to flow better, one must open his chakra.
That's all there is to it, not really that difficult or important.
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zukofangirl2006

[116]Jun 20, 2008

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uchia2000 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac: And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up. Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much. The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny. Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him. Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.

I see, waging war then, let's go. B.O.T.: Draggin it out, let's take the 3rd Hokage and Orochimaru's stab for instance. (Now who in the WORLD can stay in that same position for 3 episodes straight!?, now my little brother's a Narutard to the death but even he thought it was kinda weird that they could do that.)

Yeah that is wierd but you know what both of them were eagerly trying to kill each other.

Ya it was more about a battle of willpower than anything.

Could you please explain why they were having a battle of willpower? And not a battle?

Also, how do you fit 3 episodes into one hour of narutime? That would be slowing the battle down....

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Eddy654

[117]Jun 20, 2008

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PerfectAgent96 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

avalame122 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

Naruto has better quality than Avatar because it has far more drama. Avatar is weak as there's no character death. Sheesh, talk about squeamish writers.

List of characters that have died:

Yue
Zhao
Jet
Combustion Man

Not to mention a ton of implied deaths.

ZOMG FOUR charcters....wow...just...wow.

MaddoKos wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

Unlike you, we get a peice of story with every (sometimes every other) episode, instead of every ten episodes.

Quality>Quantity, and complex=/=good.

You must not watch Naruto because every Naruto chapter has a chunk of its original story.

Hard to tell between all the goofing around and boring infodump the characters spout.

And Aang doesn't goof around and act like an idiot

Riding on peinguins anyone?

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avalame122

[118]Jun 20, 2008

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SilverFlames wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Dediara could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

Its Deidara actually. Anyway he was out of clay unless im mistaken. And he wasn't trying to kill Naruto they need him alive.

Meh, whatever.

Naruto is popular in multiple countries for most ages, but whatever.

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qtwanderer
[119]Jun 20, 2008
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*looks around..takes a stance, stomps foot on floor, thrust fist foward* Hahaha...an earthquake shall stop all
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uchia2000
[120]Jun 20, 2008
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The 3rd Hokage was trying to pull Orochimarus soul out while Orochimaru was trying to keep his soul in. Both were exhausted and the 3rd Hokage was fatally wounded and trying to cling on to life long enough.
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