Avatar: The Last Airbender: Why is this so great.

Why is this so great.

avalame122

[61]Jun 20, 2008

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zukofangirl2006 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

OH and I forgot one thing. Can any of you explain how Bending is actually POSSIBLE. Oh I just fling my hands and I can cause A tornado, make a Tsunami, or split the ground in two.

Oh I just do some glorified sign language and I can do the same! Can you explain how THAT is actually possible?

Naruto actually explains the chakra network and how it works. Avatar offers no explanation to the sub-par bending.

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PerfectAgent96

[62]Jun 20, 2008

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zukofangirl2006 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

I'm sorry, I know this is slightly off topic, but I'd like to know exactly how you can say Naruto is good at all, much less better than Avatar (I'll give you Death Note and Bleach). They just stand there, shouting out corny lines, shouting the names of their attacks, then throwing clones and needles at each other. Then you have ten filler episodes of Naruto being stupid and/or eating ramen.

Zuko may be the most developed, but he's hardly the only one...

Naruto has one of the most complex and original stories out there. Can the same be said for Avatar?

* walks in * Hell yes. * walks out *

Tell me how avatar is original? I've seen Saturday morning cartoons with better plots.

Name one.

And while we're at it, show me an example of how Naruto has good action at all. Might as well give an example of plot, too.

Asking why a 14 year old can shoot lightning is silly when you watch a show where 13 year olds have demons in them and can clone themselves, and another 13 year old can control sand. You get the point.

Actually they do have a reason for it. They actually EXPLAIN how stuff works instead of leaving that plot hole to be filled by fans.

MarryLarry wrote:

People, don't respond to this thread. It's just Naruto fans trying to make themselves feel better by saying their show is superior while calling it 'a friendly debate' so the mods don't TOS them. No matter how logical or insulting your comments are, they'll never agree with you. Let it go.

If your a REAL fan of a show you'll defend it. If not you'll take the cowardly way out like this guy.

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zukofangirl2006

[63]Jun 20, 2008

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edmasterchaos wrote:

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I take it you think Naruto is better simply because it has violence for the sake of violence? As forZuko being the most developed, he really isn't, he just went through the most changes. He was intended to be the character to go through the most changes from the start. As for the other characters, they've changed quite a bit as well. Aang is no longer the happy go lucky kid we saw come out of the iceberg. Little innocent Katara has now made a death threat and meant it. Sokka is still a wise guy but he's gone from believing he's useless to knowing he's a valuable asset to the gang. Toph used to be an abrasive girl who seemed to not care too much about anything, and now she admits that she does love her parents (as well as Sokka). Ty Lee, Mai, and them are side characters so they don't really count, except for the bit of background information we have about them. So yes, Avatar is a pretty good show that's intelligently written and isn't all about over-the-top violence as much as it's about the characters themselves. Naruto has nice action, but is it even as meticulous as the motion-captured martial arts action in Avatar? Didn't think so. They mostly leap impossible distances at each other and punch each other in the face. I do like Naruto, but Avatar is a more planned and better written show that was meant to have a beginning, a middle, and an end.

Yes but Naruto has the chinese handsigns. Also they do make the charcters do varies martial art staces like Sasuke he did the bruce lee one. Plus have you seen Neji fight he has a specific way of attcking foes.

the bendings are all based on different martial arts.

Not to mention that Toph has a seperate style from other earthbenders, because of both her blindness and her learning from different teachers (badgermoles).

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Eddy654

[64]Jun 20, 2008

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zukofangirl2006 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

OH and I forgot one thing. Can any of you explain how Bending is actually POSSIBLE. Oh I just fling my hands and I can cause A tornado, make a Tsunami, or split the ground in two.

Oh I just do some glorified sign language and I can do the same! Can you explain how THAT is actually possible?

They do that to intiate the justu, like realesing there chakra.

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uchia2000

[65]Jun 20, 2008

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zukofangirl2006 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

OH and I forgot one thing. Can any of you explain how Bending is actually POSSIBLE. Oh I just fling my hands and I can cause A tornado, make a Tsunami, or split the ground in two.

Oh I just do some glorified sign language and I can do the same! Can you explain how THAT is actually possible?

Well in Naruto they explain it in a bit more detail. They introduce the idea of "chakra" and through training you can use it to control certain elements.

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MaddoKos

[66]Jun 20, 2008

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PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

Plotwise, Avatar has a much, much tighter storyline that has been clearly thought out from the beginning. Naruto (and Bleach, and most animes) have much looser, and dare I say, more rambling narrative. And while you can get a lot more episodes out of such a narrative, it simply isn't as well plotted or paced.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

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SilverFlames

[67]Jun 20, 2008

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uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Oh shoot * facepalm * Almost forgot, you don't watch Avatar that much.

The Season 2 Finale: The Crossroads of Destiny.

Aang's powering up for the Avatar State when all of a sudden Azula zapps him, therefore destroying the state and "killing" him.

Has any villain actually hit Naruto while he was doing a jutsu or powering up to do the kyuubi?

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edmasterchaos

[68]Jun 20, 2008

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Eddy654 wrote:

edmasterchaos wrote:

KingSlime20 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

I mean Avatar is adored by millions out there, but there doesn't seem to be anypoint.There are plenty of other animes that surpass Avatar in everyway like Naruto, Bleach, Death Note. Can some1 explain to me whats so good about Avatar? I mean they don't explain the bending powers whatsoevr. How creatures like Appa can actually exist. I mean seriosuly I'm here to understand WHY not to troll. Just a little debate.

Avatar isn't anime.

This.

uchia2000 wrote:

Avatar plot is pretty straight forward. Destroy the Firelord and save the world. In Naruto there are many different goals such as destroying Akatsuki, Naruto becoming Hokage, Naruto saving Sasuke, Sasuke getting his revenge and so on.

Avatar's plot:
Kill Fire Lord Ozai before summer.
Aang mastering all 4 elements before summer.
Zuko finding his destiny.

Naruto's Plot:
Sasuke's goals [yeah, im counting revenge and re-making the clan as one, since the second one will probably be skipped a little]
Naruto becoming Hokage.
Killing Aktsuki/Maadara/Pein

Kinda close, the overall goals are killing the bad guys, while the main one and the emo one do stuff.
But, Naruto has much slower pace, so they're allowed more sub-plots, wich means more characters and sagas, while avatar has the main plot and a few sub-plots.

Slow, do you read the manga there battle's are nicely paced and also thats not the reason The creator of Naruto said sice his life is kinda slow paced he wanted his manga to be also, but I hardlt think of it as slow.

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Ok, that made no sense, Kishimoto said he wanted it to be slow, and you say that because of that, it's not slow.
And do you read the manga? you can't say that Itachi Vs Sasuke wasn't drag for a bit too long, and we were all waiting for reactions to Jiraiya's death making it seem too long >.>

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blackfire_bird

[69]Jun 20, 2008

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PerfectAgent96 wrote:

OH and I forgot one thing. Can any of you explain how Bending is actually POSSIBLE. Oh I just fling my hands and I can cause A tornado, make a Tsunami, or split the ground in two.

Hey there "don't I know you ?" guess where that is from lol

Hey fellow Avatarians I'm trully sorry brigging these guys upon you. I've actually managed single handly to drive them out of their lair. lol I'm so proud XD

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Ravel93
[70]Jun 20, 2008
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Well I've got a question for you. Why is Naruto so great? There are TONS of better anime out there. (Death Note, Bleach, YuYu Hakusho, King of Bandit Jing, the list goes on and on). And besides, you shouldn't compare Avatar and Naruto, considering that Avatar isn't an anime. You should be comparing Avatar with stuff like Ben 10 and Teen Titans. If you compare it with stuff like that, that's where you see the appeal.
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Eddy654

[71]Jun 20, 2008

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MaddoKos wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Spacerac wrote:

Naruto has motion caption for casual walking the animation is as smooth as any Disney movie.

That's a good one.

And with that, I hereby flame:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unEHgZrHBgQ

If they hade a more complex and good story the show wouldnt only last for 3 seasons.

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MarryLarry

[72]Jun 20, 2008

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PerfectAgent96 wrote:

MarryLarry wrote:

If your a REAL fan of a show you'll defend it. If not you'll take the cowardly way out like this guy.

I'm not so much a fan of Avatar as I am of good television. Hence why I don't like Naruto.[insert smug eye wink]

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PerfectAgent96

[73]Jun 20, 2008

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zukofangirl2006 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

OH and I forgot one thing. Can any of you explain how Bending is actually POSSIBLE. Oh I just fling my hands and I can cause A tornado, make a Tsunami, or split the ground in two.

Oh I just do some glorified sign language and I can do the same! Can you explain how THAT is actually possible?

Because molding chakra a substance that lives in all living things, it has a special potency that it can be used to manipulate the objects around them.

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uchia2000

[74]Jun 20, 2008

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SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

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Eddy654

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edmasterchaos wrote:

Eddy654 wrote:

edmasterchaos wrote:

KingSlime20 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

Avatar isn't anime.

This.

uchia2000 wrote:

The reaction was late because Naruto out trying to catch Sasuke and during that Jiriaya was fighting pein.

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zukofangirl2006

[76]Jun 20, 2008

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uchia2000 wrote:

zukofangirl2006 wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

OH and I forgot one thing. Can any of you explain how Bending is actually POSSIBLE. Oh I just fling my hands and I can cause A tornado, make a Tsunami, or split the ground in two.

Oh I just do some glorified sign language and I can do the same! Can you explain how THAT is actually possible?

Well in Naruto they explain it in a bit more detail. They introduce the idea of "chakra" and through training you can use it to control certain elements.

And Avatar choses to take a different approach. Leaving many of the technicalities in mystery, they show more of how the characters work to acheive it, and how not all of the possibilities of bending have been discovered yet. Bending is overall a spiritual thing, and spirits (some of which have mortal incarnations and can be killed) are the origin of bending and the power behind it.

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Spacerac
[77]Jun 20, 2008
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Iroh: Fire is the element of power. The people of the Fire Nation have desire and will, and the energy and drive to achieve what they want. Earth is the element of substance. The people of the Earth Kingdom are diverse and strong. They are persistent and enduring. Air is the element of freedom. The Air Nomads detached themselves from worldly concerns and found peace and freedom. Also, they apparently had pretty good senses of humor! (Iroh smiles widely, but Zuko
doesn't react.) Water is the element of change. The people of the Water Tribe are capable of adapting to many things. They have a deep sense of community and love that holds them together through anything.
Zuko: Why are you telling me these things‌
Iroh: It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. (He draws lines separating the four symbols in the dirt.) Understanding others, the other elements, and the other nations will help you become whole.
Zuko: All this four elements talk is sounding like Avatar stuff.
Iroh: It is the combination of the four elements in one person that makes the Avatar so powerful.

Weak "no explanation' argument is weak.
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avalame122

[78]Jun 20, 2008

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MarryLarry wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

MarryLarry wrote:

If your a REAL fan of a show you'll defend it. If not you'll take the cowardly way out like this guy.

I'm not so much a fan of Avatar as I am of good television. Hence why I don't like Naruto.[insert smug eye wink]

Too mature for you?

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SilverFlames

[79]Jun 20, 2008

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uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

uchia2000 wrote:

SilverFlames wrote:

Adding to your statement Spacerac:

And the villians don't stand by while the main hero powers up.

Watch CoD, That Azula scene is probably 1 of the most realistic villian scences ever.

CoD?

Well Aang was just floating in space a free target.

In Naruto the powerups happen pretty quickly. Anyway hand signs are a small price to pay. In Naruto characters can use a much wider array of moves.

Well when naruto was transforming to Kyyubi, Sasori could've made some clay and hid it somewhere near Naruto and it would've blown him to smitherreens.

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Spacerac

[80]Jun 20, 2008

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MarryLarry wrote:

PerfectAgent96 wrote:

MarryLarry wrote:

If your a REAL fan of a show you'll defend it. If not you'll take the cowardly way out like this guy.

I'm not so much a fan of Avatar as I am of good television. Hence why I don't like Naruto.[insert smug eye wink]

That was just cold-blooded.

And nobody has time to read all those mangas.

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