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Do You Think Katara Is Annoying?

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    masterofaeons

    [321]Jun 10, 2007
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    Wow. We're off topic.

    Katara is annoying, but that's probably just because she's a woman. Toph isn't because she's just another one of the guys. I hope in the Avatar movie she is played by Sarah Silverman.
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    titiembe

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Wow. We're off topic.

    Katara is annoying, but that's probably just because she's a woman. Toph isn't because she's just another one of the guys. I hope in the Avatar movie she is played by Sarah Silverman.


    That was not sexist. *sarcasam*
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    jmchoy

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    no ... and yes singuture tophs hot
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    Stinky2u4u

    [324]Jun 10, 2007
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    I like each person (almost) equally. But I think Katara is (one) of my least favourites. But she is up there with my favourites. She is the most mature one on the show, which makes her seem like she is the most "perfect" but not in a bad way. Although I like the more Tough girls, (Katra is Tough, but not so much), not so much motherly ones. I find her anoying at times, but not much. But she has her faults.

    I have one big complaint about her though-

    She needs to have an obvious weakness, probably why I don't like her as much is because she doesn't under-go much character develepment on the show. She has character develepment, but not as much as the other characters

    (Here are in orders the most chacarter develepment)-

    Zuko
    Aang
    Sokka
    Toph (considering the low amount of episodes she has been in)
    Katara

    Zuko has total obviuos weakneses

    Aang he starts out as a fun-loving kid (he still is though) but was never serious about the war to much. You can totally tell he has a much different attitude about it by the way he fights etc

    Sokka has never really had any respect for girls, but now he does a lot more. Even his bad attitude and sarcasm has died down, just a little.

    Toph has a lot of character develepment to undergo.

    Katara, I really don't know? She's *sort-of* hard-headed, but only when she needs to be, I don't se ethat as a weakness, like Toph, she is hard-headed, when she doesn't need to be.
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    titiembe

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    Stinky2u4u wrote:
    I like each person (almost) equally. But I think Katara is (one) of my least favourites. But she is up there with my favourites. She is the most mature one on the show, which makes her seem like she is the most "perfect" but not in a bad way. Although I like the more Tough girls, (Katra is Tough, but not so much), not so much motherly ones. I find her anoying at times, but not much. But she has her faults.

    I have one big complaint about her though-

    She needs to have an obvious weakness, probably why I don't like her as much is because she doesn't under-go much character develepment on the show. She has character develepment, but not as much as the other characters

    (Here are in orders the most chacarter develepment)-

    Zuko
    Aang
    Sokka
    Toph (considering the low amount of episodes she has been in)
    Katara

    Zuko has total obviuos weakneses

    Aang he starts out as a fun-loving kid (he still is though) but was never serious about the war to much. You can totally tell he has a much different attitude about it by the way he fights etc

    Sokka has never really had any respect for girls, but now he does a lot more. Even his bad attitude and sarcasm has died down, just a little.

    Toph has a lot of character develepment to undergo.

    Katara, I really don't know? She's *sort-of* hard-headed, but only when she needs to be, I don't se ethat as a weakness, like Toph, she is hard-headed, when she doesn't need to be.


    That was a very nice um speculation *applauds* When you say weakness though, do you mean emotional or physical? Cuz like pretty much none of them have emotional weaknesses I guess... I mean something that could make them lose a battle... but Toph physically can't really go in sand, Sokka's just kind of weak, Aang doesn't really have too much of a weakness(nor Azula or Iroh, and Zuko doesn't either, he's just kind of an emotional wreck...) Ty Lee and Mai are either bad in far range or close range attacks. Physically, Katara lacks in the close combat skills that the other characters possess(Zuko=swords, Azula=she has some form of kung fu, Aang=Staff, etc.) Emotionally weakness... well she does her mom but it probably won't make her lose a battle, more like maker her angry and win it. Wow long message.
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    SgtHydra

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    Katara is the team's juggernaut. I have yet to see her be defeated in one on one combat, while aang has. She held her own against Azula with ease, while aang almost died. She needs be shown as a more emotionally scarred character in season 3, because of aang's near death (I'm not shipping. Aang is her friend, u know). But this would change against Zuko, who she would attack viciously, then relapse into a weak state after the battle is over. In short, she would have PTSD, post tramatic stress disorder.
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    SunofFire

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    SgtHydra wrote:
    Katara is the team's juggernaut. I have yet to see her be defeated in one on one combat, while aang has. She held her own against Azula with ease, while aang almost died. She needs be shown as a more emotionally scarred character in season 3, because of aang's near death (I'm not shipping. Aang is her friend, u know). But this would change against Zuko, who she would attack viciously, then relapse into a weak state after the battle is over. In short, she would have PTSD, post tramatic stress disorder.
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    SunofFire wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:
    Katara is the team's juggernaut. I have yet to see her be defeated in one on one combat, while aang has. She held her own against Azula with ease, while aang almost died. She needs be shown as a more emotionally scarred character in season 3, because of aang's near death (I'm not shipping. Aang is her friend, u know). But this would change against Zuko, who she would attack viciously, then relapse into a weak state after the battle is over. In short, she would have PTSD, post tramatic stress disorder.
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    And I won't stand for that!

    Btw, srry for thinkin you and SonofIce were the same person. I'm just so used to White Kobbra and Ninja Jaguar that I lost my manners.

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    masterofaeons

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    Yeah, I pretty much say those points somewhere deep in this forum's archives. I hate Katara because she doesn't have any sort of limit to her power, she doesn't stop getting better ("Her power level is over 9000!!!!"), and she's doted on by every character as perfection. Wow, she's all Aang can see. She's the greatest waterbender ever. She saved Aang's life. She's the real hero of the story. Face it, Katara. You're amazing.

    She isn't humble, and when asked to be she's loud and annoying. She throws a tantrum when she's put in her place and then amazes people into loving her (see: The Waterbending Master). Her character is constantly built up as this paragon of every aspect and she should teach not only the AVATAR, but every other MARY SUE in ANY OTHER PARALLEL UNIVERSE. I can't stand her character and wish that she could just be pulled back some or handle her abilities differently. Toph has less of an ego than Katard.

    I'm not asking a lot.
    - Pull back her power. This is Avatar: The Last Airbender. Not Katara: Even More Frickin Amazing Than Last Time.
    - Knock her down a few pegs. Have someone slap her around that Aang defeats easily. Or better yet...Sokka. I'm tired of seeing the hero of the story getting rescued by Katara.
    - Keep Aang away from her. I'm not anti-"Kataangrairbendertribe", but so long as Aang keeps his focus on her she is idolized by him and by proxy us as an audience. You promised to reel in Aang. Keep that promise. Give Ty Lee more screen time. A spinoff? There's plenty of other girls who make themselves more interesting than Katara the Wow! two sided.
    - The next time you bestow limitless powers/artifacts/deus ex machinas upon someone...give it to someone else. Sokka's hurting to be important. Why don't you give him the superhealing next time?

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    foamingmonkey

    [330]Jun 11, 2007
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    I must agree with masterofaeons on every point.

    Look at all of the characteristics:

    -Everyone is constantly making remarks about her beauty. ("She's too pretty for you." -June "She's beautiful." -Meng)

    -She's grown from barely able to coordinate where to push water to creating tsunamis and crazy water-octopi in what, a matter of months? When, in the beginning, old masters (Jeong Jeong, Pakku, Roku) were talking about all of the years it takes to master bending. She has mastered water-bending quite well in such a short amount of time. Meanwhile, other water benders in the North Pole have been studying for years under a master of the arts, but she is able to surpass them easily within a few days. Since the North Pole, she's been teaching herself (since she's been teaching Aang), but has made huge strides in water bending despite the short amount of time and the lack of a proper teacher.

    -She inexplicably encounters a hidden talent for healing that she is able to utilize immediately upon discovery. Meanwhile, in the North Pole, these water healers are being taught at a young age (for what I assume would be a few years as well, otherwise they wouldn't need to cultivate the talent at such a young age).

    -She's worse than Sokka in the love department. She has twice as many love interests as her older brother, but when comparing the two, Sokka is more likely described as chauvinistic while Katara's love interests are merely attracted by her charms.

    Now imagine, if someone else were to write about a girl who was remarkably beautiful, a powerful warrior, a miraculous healer, and has had multiple people fall for her, what would that be called?

    A Sue. That's simply what she is. A Canon Sue, but a Sue none-the-less. She's just a wee bit too "special."

    She's even greater than Aang half of the time. I understand they're trying to promote "girl power" and avoid damsel-in-distress syndrome, but they should tone it down a bit. If they wanted a girl character to be so powerful and great, they should have made the Avatar a girl.

    Edit: I forgot the tragic past of her mother's death, crafted so the audience feels nothing more than sympathy and empathy towards the character -- another Sue characteristic.

    Edited on 06/12/2007 1:20am
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    masterofaeons

    [331]Jun 11, 2007
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    Toph, alone, as the Avatar could carry her own show.
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    SgtHydra

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph, alone, as the Avatar could carry her own show.

    But Toph is too young to be an object for me and other teenagers to drool over.

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    foamingmonkey

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    Ellazuh wrote:
    I mean, Aang is so annoying with his love for Katara, it sometimes seems that he pays no attention to anyone else but her. I mean, in the guru episode, was the only thing that attached himself to the world was Katara? They should have shown the group hugging eachother or something.

    I totally agree with you. I think the creators are "shipping" the entire thing to the extreme. Like when the Air chakra, the chakra of love, was brought up, it discussed the love of his people and then the new love of Katara. What about the love of his other friends? And then, as aforementioned by the quoted poster, apparently only Katara and his feelings for her bind him to the world? At that moment you'd think he didn't even like the rest of the group. "Meh, I wouldn't mind ditching my other friends to get to the astral plane."

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    FMA102

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    I hope in the Avatar movie she is played by Sarah Silverman.
    Winner.
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    LeonMorado

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    foamingmonkey wrote:
    lotsa stuff

    word.
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    masterofaeons

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    SgtHydra wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph, alone, as the Avatar could carry her own show.

    But Toph is too young to be an object for me and other teenagers to drool over.



    Fine, it'll be a buddy show with Toph and Ty Lee beating stuff up.
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    rockalanche_foo

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    I think Katara is only annoying when she acts like she knows everything around other people. She is the most mature of the gAang, and she needs to imply that otherwise they would have a veeery small sense of leadership.
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    djdfire

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    Katara can be annoying sometimes but she is really the person who can keep the group focused at times, IMO. Say for example when they were in the desert and Aang lost Appa, if she wasn't there or wasn't as mature, who knows what would've happen. As for comments on her mastering waterbending to fast, I think it was done so we could see more fast-paced battles, besides she kicks way more arse now. Well that's my two cents on this matter.
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    SgtHydra

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph, alone, as the Avatar could carry her own show.

    But Toph is too young to be an object for me and other teenagers to drool over.

    Fine, it'll be a buddy show with Toph and Ty Lee beating stuff up.

    Now we are talkin.

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