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    HazelnX

    [361]Jul 19, 2007
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    Not that much, they do overdo her sometimes...but overall i think that she only reacts the way she does keep everything in balance, she kinda is the most mature onein the group, ya know.
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    masterofaeons

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    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##%

    *foam, foam, faceplant*
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    carmellaina

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

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    SgtHydra

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    carmellaina wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

    I hate it how shows always have a stronger and stronger enemy that you have to face. That is what made DBZ boring.

    They should have the enemy be themselves. They get caught up in their own hubris (their own hard work).

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    Ninja_Avatar875

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    SgtHydra wrote:
    carmellaina wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

    I hate it how shows always have a stronger and stronger enemy that you have to face. That is what made DBZ boring.

    They should have the enemy be themselves. They get caught up in their own hubris (their own hard work).

    Yeah that got annoying after Cell. I wasn't thrilled with the Buu saga, it was so-so. GT stuck. The hubris would interesting. Anyway why are we ressurrecting a long died forum about hating Katara anyway?

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    clearwater04

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    Ninja_Avatar875 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:
    carmellaina wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

    I hate it how shows always have a stronger and stronger enemy that you have to face. That is what made DBZ boring.

    They should have the enemy be themselves. They get caught up in their own hubris (their own hard work).

    Yeah that got annoying after Cell. I wasn't thrilled with the Buu saga, it was so-so. GT stuck. The hubris would interesting. Anyway why are we ressurrecting a long died forum about hating Katara anyway?
    because katara is an annoying bi*** and they just keep on making her stronger
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    foamingmonkey

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    For serious.

    SgtHydra wrote:
    carmellaina wrote:
    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

    I hate it how shows always have a stronger and stronger enemy that you have to face. That is what made DBZ boring.

    They should have the enemy be themselves. They get caught up in their own hubris (their own hard work).

    "A new enemy? That I can't beat using all of my power right now!? Then I must get STRONGER! And I do that by YELLING FOR EIGHT EPISODES!! RAAAAAAAH!!! Ha ha! I have bested you! You are dead! The world and I can now rest easy... ...what's this? An even MORE powerful enemy? Then I must get STRONGER! RAAAAAAAAH!!!"

    "Internal conflict" or such personality faults as a conflict would be an interesting change of pace, but I don't think it would work in a cartoon aimed at twelve year olds who would probably think such an idea is boring or that the idea of their favorite characters are capable of mistakes is inconceivable. Why are they introducing a new, even stronger baddie when they haven't even defeated Azula yet, though?

    Either way, I'm hoping that, in the coming season, Sokka's physical fighting ability is made more prominent. As the story progresses and more bending in introduced, Sokka has been taking more and more of a back seat when these battles take place (and he was already hardly acknowledged to begin with), and is really only showcased for comic relief. It would be nice to see that "normal" people are capable of fighting in the Avatar world and not just sources of amusement for those with bending abilities.

    clearwater04 wrote:
    Ninja_Avatar875 wrote:

    Yeah that got annoying after Cell. I wasn't thrilled with the Buu saga, it was so-so. GT stuck. The hubris would interesting. Anyway why are we ressurrecting a long died forum about hating Katara anyway?
    because katara is an annoying bi*** and they just keep on making her stronger

    (I didn't know it was dead, I was just looking in my bookmarks, found the link to this, and just posted.)

    They do keep making her increasingly powerful, and over such a short amount of time. By next season, she'll be near invincible. She'll probably have mastered her healing ability to surround herself with magical healing-ness in the midst of battle if things keep progressing the way they are now. (Come on, going from hardly able to move a small patch of water to being able to counter natural currents IN ONE EPISODE? How about NOW being able to generate huge tsunamis that wipe out dozens of warriors? And she's really only begun to seriously water bend within a few months? Half a year maybe?)

    Edited on 07/20/2007 1:21am
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    piranhapete

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    foamingmonkey wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    For serious.

    SgtHydra wrote:
    carmellaina wrote:
    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

    I hate it how shows always have a stronger and stronger enemy that you have to face. That is what made DBZ boring.

    They should have the enemy be themselves. They get caught up in their own hubris (their own hard work).

    "A new enemy? That I can't beat using all of my power right now!? Then I must get STRONGER! And I do that by YELLING FOR EIGHT EPISODES!! RAAAAAAAH!!! Ha ha! I have bested you! You are dead! The world and I can now rest easy... ...what's this? An even MORE powerful enemy? Then I must get STRONGER! RAAAAAAAAH!!!"

    "Internal conflict" or such personality faults as a conflict would be an interesting change of pace, but I don't think it would work in a cartoon aimed at twelve year olds who would probably think such an idea is boring or that the idea of their favorite characters are capable of mistakes is inconceivable. Why are they introducing a new, even stronger baddie when they haven't even defeated Azula yet, though?

    Either way, I'm hoping that, in the coming season, Sokka's physical fighting ability is made more prominent. As the story progresses and more bending in introduced, Sokka has been taking more and more of a back seat when these battles take place (and he was already hardly acknowledged to begin with), and is really only showcased for comic relief. It would be nice to see that "normal" people are capable of fighting in the Avatar world and not just sources of amusement for those with bending abilities.

    clearwater04 wrote:
    Ninja_Avatar875 wrote:

    Yeah that got annoying after Cell. I wasn't thrilled with the Buu saga, it was so-so. GT stuck. The hubris would interesting. Anyway why are we ressurrecting a long died forum about hating Katara anyway?
    because katara is an annoying bi*** and they just keep on making her stronger

    (I didn't know it was dead, I was just looking in my bookmarks, found the link to this, and just posted.)

    They do keep making her increasingly powerful, and over such a short amount of time. By next season, she'll be near invincible. She'll probably have mastered her healing ability to surround herself with magical healing-ness in the midst of battle if things keep progressing the way they are now. (Come on, going from hardly able to move a small patch of water to being able to counter natural currents IN ONE EPISODE? How about NOW being able to generate huge tsunamis that wipe out dozens of warriors? And she's really only begun to seriously water bend within a few months? Half a year maybe?)


    I just don't understand the problem... Toph is every bit as good as Katara is, maybe even BETTER, yet no one here really seems to have a problem with her...
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    piranhapete wrote:
    foamingmonkey wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hopefully the Katara of the future is a little less perfect and toned down. I'd like to see her in a different light (aside from this light where she's the most powerful fighter in the world, everyone's obessession, and the one everyone relies on to get them through. Why would the world need an Avatar if Katara hasn't met her match yet - even against the PRINCESS of THE FIRE NATION, WHO REGULARLY BESTS GENERALS AND WARLORDS?!?!!?##% *foam, foam, faceplant*

    For serious.

    SgtHydra wrote:
    carmellaina wrote:
    Well, you have a point, but thats why we have season 3 to look forward too.

    Theres supposed to be a new enemy, which will appear for most of the season. Maybe this new enemy will be stronger than Katara or even the whole Gaang.

    I hate it how shows always have a stronger and stronger enemy that you have to face. That is what made DBZ boring.

    They should have the enemy be themselves. They get caught up in their own hubris (their own hard work).

    "A new enemy? That I can't beat using all of my power right now!? Then I must get STRONGER! And I do that by YELLING FOR EIGHT EPISODES!! RAAAAAAAH!!! Ha ha! I have bested you! You are dead! The world and I can now rest easy... ...what's this? An even MORE powerful enemy? Then I must get STRONGER! RAAAAAAAAH!!!"

    "Internal conflict" or such personality faults as a conflict would be an interesting change of pace, but I don't think it would work in a cartoon aimed at twelve year olds who would probably think such an idea is boring or that the idea of their favorite characters are capable of mistakes is inconceivable. Why are they introducing a new, even stronger baddie when they haven't even defeated Azula yet, though?

    Either way, I'm hoping that, in the coming season, Sokka's physical fighting ability is made more prominent. As the story progresses and more bending in introduced, Sokka has been taking more and more of a back seat when these battles take place (and he was already hardly acknowledged to begin with), and is really only showcased for comic relief. It would be nice to see that "normal" people are capable of fighting in the Avatar world and not just sources of amusement for those with bending abilities.

    clearwater04 wrote:
    Ninja_Avatar875 wrote:

    Yeah that got annoying after Cell. I wasn't thrilled with the Buu saga, it was so-so. GT stuck. The hubris would interesting. Anyway why are we ressurrecting a long died forum about hating Katara anyway?
    because katara is an annoying bi*** and they just keep on making her stronger

    (I didn't know it was dead, I was just looking in my bookmarks, found the link to this, and just posted.)

    They do keep making her increasingly powerful, and over such a short amount of time. By next season, she'll be near invincible. She'll probably have mastered her healing ability to surround herself with magical healing-ness in the midst of battle if things keep progressing the way they are now. (Come on, going from hardly able to move a small patch of water to being able to counter natural currents IN ONE EPISODE? How about NOW being able to generate huge tsunamis that wipe out dozens of warriors? And she's really only begun to seriously water bend within a few months? Half a year maybe?)
    I just don't understand the problem... Toph is every bit as good as Katara is, maybe even BETTER, yet no one here really seems to have a problem with her...

    Toph was strong to begin with. Katara's strengh has been increasing dramatically over the course of 6 months (in the avatar world)

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    masterofaeons

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    Toph balances herself out. And she has clear weaknesses. Just lift her off the ground or tell her just how pretty the sunset looks. She'll give up and admit she has limitations. If Katara is ever beaten she just gets stronger and keeps fighting until the writers give up and let her win. Toph has weaknesses that are taken advantage of and she's been beat up. When was the last time that was saw Katara against a wall AND DIDN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT then save Aang and look AMAZING doing so?
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    piranhapete

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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph balances herself out. And she has clear weaknesses. Just lift her off the ground or tell her just how pretty the sunset looks. She'll give up and admit she has limitations. If Katara is ever beaten she just gets stronger and keeps fighting until the writers give up and let her win. Toph has weaknesses that are taken advantage of and she's been beat up. When was the last time that was saw Katara against a wall AND DIDN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT then save Aang and look AMAZING doing so?


    Ha! You're kidding, right? Toph wouldn't give up or admit she has limitations in a million years! Since when has Toph EVER been beaten? NEVER. She's been captured once or twice, but she's gone so far as to discover a new branch of earthbending just to escape! I would argue against your last sentence, but I'm not sure what you're saying in it. If you could reitterate, I'd be happy to respond.
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    MouseyMcNuts

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    Katara's pretty cool. But she can be kind of annoying at times.

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    clearwater04

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    piranhapete wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph balances herself out. And she has clear weaknesses. Just lift her off the ground or tell her just how pretty the sunset looks. She'll give up and admit she has limitations. If Katara is ever beaten she just gets stronger and keeps fighting until the writers give up and let her win. Toph has weaknesses that are taken advantage of and she's been beat up. When was the last time that was saw Katara against a wall AND DIDN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT then save Aang and look AMAZING doing so?
    Ha! You're kidding, right? Toph wouldn't give up or admit she has limitations in a million years! Since when has Toph EVER been beaten? NEVER. She's been captured once or twice, but she's gone so far as to discover a new branch of earthbending just to escape! I would argue against your last sentence, but I'm not sure what you're saying in it. If you could reitterate, I'd be happy to respond.
    hmmm lets see toph gave up during the appa knapping and during the earth king hostage situation. she admitted to losing to aang but slammed him into a tree to make it even. she admitted that she cannot swim or see inside a giant metal drill. she also can't fight flying creatures. oh and if jet hadn't saved her she would of lost
    Edited on 07/20/2007 11:04am
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    clearwater04 wrote:
    piranhapete wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph balances herself out. And she has clear weaknesses. Just lift her off the ground or tell her just how pretty the sunset looks. She'll give up and admit she has limitations. If Katara is ever beaten she just gets stronger and keeps fighting until the writers give up and let her win. Toph has weaknesses that are taken advantage of and she's been beat up. When was the last time that was saw Katara against a wall AND DIDN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT then save Aang and look AMAZING doing so?
    Ha! You're kidding, right? Toph wouldn't give up or admit she has limitations in a million years! Since when has Toph EVER been beaten? NEVER. She's been captured once or twice, but she's gone so far as to discover a new branch of earthbending just to escape! I would argue against your last sentence, but I'm not sure what you're saying in it. If you could reitterate, I'd be happy to respond.
    hmmm lets see toph gave up during the appa knapping and during the earth king hostage situation. she admitted to losing to aang but slammed him into a tree to make it even. she admitted that she cannot swim or see inside a giant metal drill. she also can't fight flying creatures. oh and if jet hadn't saved her she would of lost

    When did Jet save her? Not disputing you, but just wondering.

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    clearwater04

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    SgtHydra wrote:

    clearwater04 wrote:
    piranhapete wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph balances herself out. And she has clear weaknesses. Just lift her off the ground or tell her just how pretty the sunset looks. She'll give up and admit she has limitations. If Katara is ever beaten she just gets stronger and keeps fighting until the writers give up and let her win. Toph has weaknesses that are taken advantage of and she's been beat up. When was the last time that was saw Katara against a wall AND DIDN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT then save Aang and look AMAZING doing so?
    Ha! You're kidding, right? Toph wouldn't give up or admit she has limitations in a million years! Since when has Toph EVER been beaten? NEVER. She's been captured once or twice, but she's gone so far as to discover a new branch of earthbending just to escape! I would argue against your last sentence, but I'm not sure what you're saying in it. If you could reitterate, I'd be happy to respond.
    hmmm lets see toph gave up during the appa knapping and during the earth king hostage situation. she admitted to losing to aang but slammed him into a tree to make it even. she admitted that she cannot swim or see inside a giant metal drill. she also can't fight flying creatures. oh and if jet hadn't saved her she would of lost

    When did Jet save her? Not disputing you, but just wondering.
    oh sorry i should probably add that
    he saved her from falling about 30 feet on lake laogai
    the dai li grabbed her with a rock glove and pulled her off the tower she and the dai li made
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    clearwater04 wrote:
    piranhapete wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    Toph balances herself out. And she has clear weaknesses. Just lift her off the ground or tell her just how pretty the sunset looks. She'll give up and admit she has limitations. If Katara is ever beaten she just gets stronger and keeps fighting until the writers give up and let her win. Toph has weaknesses that are taken advantage of and she's been beat up. When was the last time that was saw Katara against a wall AND DIDN'T DESTROY EVERYTHING IN SIGHT then save Aang and look AMAZING doing so?
    Ha! You're kidding, right? Toph wouldn't give up or admit she has limitations in a million years! Since when has Toph EVER been beaten? NEVER. She's been captured once or twice, but she's gone so far as to discover a new branch of earthbending just to escape! I would argue against your last sentence, but I'm not sure what you're saying in it. If you could reitterate, I'd be happy to respond.
    hmmm lets see toph gave up during the appa knapping and during the earth king hostage situation. she admitted to losing to aang but slammed him into a tree to make it even. she admitted that she cannot swim or see inside a giant metal drill. she also can't fight flying creatures. oh and if jet hadn't saved her she would of lost


    How dare you blame Appa's kidnapping on Toph! Would you have preferred if she let Aang, Katara, and Sokka die? There was nothing she could have done. Giving up is walking away from a difficult situation. What Toph did was choose between two different situations that both needed her help, though she could not do both. And Azula was about to kill the Earth king. That's not giving up, that's being smart. I understand that what you're saying is that Toph has weaknesses, but I'm saying that despite these weaknesses, she has never once lost a battle. Katara has lost battles, the battle with Zuko in 1.20, and she would have gotten impaled with Mai's shurikens if Sokka hadn't saved her.
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    SO katara has lost 5 fights

    2to ty lee and 2 to zuko and 1 mai

    but were talking about how she has become so
    ***SPOILER***


    and she didn't have time to train since they took a boat back and it took them weeks to get to the north pole to begin with on appa

    Edited on 07/20/2007 11:45am
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    masterofaeons

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    Katara has lost to Zuko only in Season 1, when she didn't start getting overwhelmingly powerful. Since the finale, she's proven that she can beat anyone - anytime. She didn't lose or win against Zuko in XROD, but she kind of proved her worth after turning the Octopus stance into a tidal wave that wiped out the royal duo and around 30 Dai Li agents. I'm pretty sure she came out on top there. Her fighting against Mai and Ty Lee isn't part of the litmus test for me, as no one has beaten Mai and Ty Lee.

    Let me describe the Mai Lee formula. Stuff happens, the three girls split up. Azula does something important and Ty Lee and Mai take care of Sokka and Katara. A usually comical situation follows...then either Toph or APPA swoops in to save the day (Appa more often). Since no one has beaten Mai or Ty Lee in direct combat, I don't count them as competitors. Aside from the God-Moding Twins, how many people have beaten Katara? Zuko (when she was normal) and Azula (when she's not full of righteous fury).

    Verdict? Katara is overpowered. The only thing more powerful than her is Appa. (But that's a different sore spot)
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Katara has lost to Zuko only in Season 1, when she didn't start getting overwhelmingly powerful. Since the finale, she's proven that she can beat anyone - anytime. She didn't lose or win against Zuko in XROD, but she kind of proved her worth after turning the Octopus stance into a tidal wave that wiped out the royal duo and around 30 Dai Li agents. I'm pretty sure she came out on top there. Her fighting against Mai and Ty Lee isn't part of the litmus test for me, as no one has beaten Mai and Ty Lee.

    Let me describe the Mai Lee formula. Stuff happens, the three girls split up. Azula does something important and Ty Lee and Mai take care of Sokka and Katara. A usually comical situation follows...then either Toph or APPA swoops in to save the day (Appa more often). Since no one has beaten Mai or Ty Lee in direct combat, I don't count them as competitors. Aside from the God-Moding Twins, how many people have beaten Katara? Zuko (when she was normal) and Azula (when she's not full of righteous fury).

    Verdict? Katara is overpowered. The only thing more powerful than her is Appa. (But that's a different sore spot)


    OK??? But did't katara beat ty lee in "the drill" when she waterbende her in the drill thing and then toph came and the drill exploded??
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Katara has lost to Zuko only in Season 1, when she didn't start getting overwhelmingly powerful. Since the finale, she's proven that she can beat anyone - anytime. She didn't lose or win against Zuko in XROD, but she kind of proved her worth after turning the Octopus stance into a tidal wave that wiped out the royal duo and around 30 Dai Li agents. I'm pretty sure she came out on top there. Her fighting against Mai and Ty Lee isn't part of the litmus test for me, as no one has beaten Mai and Ty Lee.

    Let me describe the Mai Lee formula. Stuff happens, the three girls split up. Azula does something important and Ty Lee and Mai take care of Sokka and Katara. A usually comical situation follows...then either Toph or APPA swoops in to save the day (Appa more often). Since no one has beaten Mai or Ty Lee in direct combat, I don't count them as competitors. Aside from the God-Moding Twins, how many people have beaten Katara? Zuko (when she was normal) and Azula (when she's not full of righteous fury).

    Verdict? Katara is overpowered. The only thing more powerful than her is Appa. (But that's a different sore spot)


    Yes, Katara is exceptionally powerful, but I don't see what the problem is. What is "overpowered" and what is your beef with her waterbending prowess? I'm assuming that you find that it's simply too unbelievable, but I argue that she's been working towards this for six months. She was okay for the first half of season one, then a month later she could do some damage. Then, after five weeks (tech. 4 1/2) training with a waterbending master, she became very serious about her training and it showed. In the previous three months of season two, we have seen her train with Aang and fight near large bodies of water, and she has gotten better and better until, yes, she is an amazing waterbender. But honestly, Katara would have been doomed if Iroh hadn't come along, and that fact seemed pretty well established to me. I suppose it's a matter of opinion, but I find that it has been shown how hard Katara worked to become a better waterbender, and that her skill is not unearned.
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