Fine, you want to battle? Let's go. I just want to know one thing: what do you even see that could ever happen of Seddie? Obviously, because of the way that almost all Nick shows are, it's going to end up Creddie. Creddie actually has proof and even a little chemistry between them. Seddie has nothing except bicker! There's no way you can possibly get ANYTHING out of bickering. Bicker almost never leads to anything, and it won't in this case.

As I am nuetral I say both could happen, both may not happen. There's that chance as well, for the most part what I see a lot of isn't Nick but Disney that does the Main girl and Main guy.

Also I can deny that bicker thing, one with my grandparents, they hated each other when they first knew each other. Another is a NICK COUPLE, Jimmy Neutron and Cindy Vortex, they had nothing but bicker and wound up with each other. So you can't discredit one just because of banter. That is for the Seddie side.

As for Creddie, you pose a great point, there is a lot of Chemistry between the two. It could and possibly will happen! I of course, support both, and would support Creddie strongly if and when it happens. Creddie stands a high chance of happening more now than it did in the beginning. Why do I think this? Because in the beginning, you could argue that Freddie's incessant proclamations of love would have annoyed Carly to no end and she never would have fallen for him, plus she liked Jake. Now, Freddie doesn't make those annoying proclamations and is more of a calm person, someone that Carly could fall for because she sees that he is not always spouting out his love every five seconds.

I had a feeling that you would bring up the point of Jimmy and Cindy on bickering. That's why I said that bickering almost always leads to nothing. But you bring up great points yourself, especially for Creddie. Freddie may not be fighting for Carly as much, but he still shows a few signs of love to here. Which are the better points of Creddie for anyone to argue.

Exactly and that's why I brought those points of Creddie up, because they are very valid and they are very true.

Although, I'd like to see some valid points against Seddie from you other than bickering because I personally have seen far too many couples (on TV and not) where they have started out disliking each other from the start.

I can bring up a point against Seddie right here, which elaborates your bickering part: If Sam and Freddie were to continue arguing time and time again and growing more hostile against each other and never growing close to one another, then there is no chance of them getting together. If they happen to grow closer to each other and something sparks, there's a chance.

I can sympathize with the Seddies around here in a way because on the show, Sam and Freddie are starting to get less hostile toward each other, but it IS still there.

I can also sympathize with the Creddies around here for the very reason I stated in my prior post.

Well you didn't really shoot down your own points. I agree that those who look to Seddie, Creddie as well, often are a tad biased, meaning the points aren't always really good. Like saying Seddie, or Creddie will happen because they "look good together" doesn't constitute as a real valid point in my book.

As far as Seddie goes, we don't know what will happen in the future, and given what we've seen so far in the first season, there's not a whole lot to show that Seddie may happen, I'll agree with you on that. In fact I will agree with you when you speak about how they stand close to each other. That sort of goes with the "look good together" type of response. All I know with Seddie, Creddie as well, is that it's best to give it time, as I'm sure in the second season, maybe not, and as episodes come, we will see much more in the light of both these ships. Anything can happen in the future, but based on what we know already, it could go one way or the other. From what we know we derive at the fact that Freddie likes, and probably still likes Carly, Carly doesn't like him like that and likes Jake. I don't agree a lot with the entire "She likes Freddie and doesn't know it yet" views, that's too unrealistic. We also see that Sam has yet to show feelings for anyone in particular, and it's possible she wont for a while because of the Jonah incident.

Holy cow... ... ... read page 12. This is truly amazing. If you think about it this is like the only show where the guy constantly expresses his love for the girl and the girls best friend constantly rips on him. Freddie makes his love well known to Carly. Everyone's all "Its gonna happen cuz in every other show it does". This is far from cliche. In other shows the guy plays it cool and the best friend does nothing. I think thats what alters everything. This may be extremely confusing but it makes sense in my head and for other people who have the same weirdly different odd thought process.

Seddie would make the cutest couple, read between the lines. It's WAY more fun to whatch two people slowly grow to like each other while having to be in denial. If Creddie were to happen it'd just be like this Carly:" you know what Freddie, I've decided I like you" Then Freddie acts all happy, and they kiss. Whopty do, not very ammusing. And then where would that leave Sam. Another thing is u have to read between the lines cause Sam and Freddie have chemistry. It's a kind of Bickering, yet still friends thing, they showed that when they hugged.

No further comment. I'm not gonna argue just because you're stubborn. So I'm done.