Nickelodeon (ended 2012)
| marcdragicevic wrote: |
| Mistakes happen. Oh really, I wouldn't know though. Does this Kevin person actually watch the show or? |
| Ruffmanfan882 wrote: |
Huntley please just give him my email to contact him, I will tell him why I think it should stay. |
Fine, but I hope I'm not going to get double-crossed here as much as I want to know your sudden reasoning for this.
Yep. So how are you coming a long with your sources? I just tweeted Dan for like the 3rd time for something but I doubt that's going to do anything. I'm still trying to dig up something else.
It's funny because remember the Nick press release statement of "iLove iCarly Collection" DVD I linked where it referenced the broadcast Seasons 2 and 3 where all the episodes listed being on the set are that of the 2xx coding? Well, Aussie and then Kevin were saying that it was "original research" because the release didn't quite list which episode belonged in with each season. The fact that the episodes have either the "Season 2" or "Season 3" intros (as I pointed out) that's enough to separate the episodes isn't good enough for them. I just want to smack them. How specific do you need to get here? Gee, talk about the obvious.
Well Wikipedia hasn't had an issue with this until now and it's better off being like that. Sure, the sources I provided might not be good enough for it's standards but that doesn't give them to right to say that the split itself didn't happen because of it. Dan's blog, Nathan's interview and the Nick press release is enough to clarify this is the case. Kevin and Alec are asking for too much for what it's worth and we are not going to confuse people by reverting that list the way they want it to be to make it seem like this broadcast split didn't happen.
Sure, intros to TV shows can be changed halfway through their seasons; but this is a normal season of episodes in their cases and this change is occurring after only during half a season cycle. iCarly had a season production of 45 and aired 25 episodes of them with one intro for a whole year. Then it returned after a month and a week gap in September 2009 with a whole new opening that lasted for the rest of the episodes. Now Dan would normally tweak an opening during the season, not completely change it unless there was a new airing season coming about. With Season 2, there were 20 episodes left to air and the network had set for them to over the course of the 2009-2010 season. Dan stated that they were calling this the third airing season, and since it was marketed as a new airing season, he wanted it to look like one by giving these episodes a new opening sequence. So no he didn't make it for the heck of it. Kevin and Alec want it to look that way, but it's clearly not the case.
Alec tried to pull of an excuse on behalf of opening intros not always indicating a new season saying that "iSam's Mom" would have been labeled as the premiere of it's new season. Well as I told him, "iGot a Hot Room" obviously was not a season by itself. The only reason why that episode had the intro it did was because not enough episodes of the new season were shot to make a whole new opening. So he had to use the "Season 3" intro but include Season 4 clips in it to let people know it was a new season until the next episode aired where he would have made the actual Season 4 opening. But other than that, he only tweaks openings for a season after an official opening of it was already made and shown. He would have likely did that for the last 20 episodes from the Season 2 production if the network did not issue them to market them as a new airing season. Not completely change at the right time a new season would begin in anyway for it to look like a new airing season if it wasn't intended to be.
| Ruffmanfan882 wrote: |
| Guess will just have to see what the vote comes to then, Also Huntley on the episode page of Wikipedia can you change Season 5 episodes from 13 episodes to 11 episodes and close out the season with the end dat of Janurary 21 2012 and in season 6 change 13 to TBA for right now because we don't know if there are going to be 15 or more episodes for next season, thanks. iToe Fat Cakes was the las episode for the season. |
We don't know for sure. There may be a couple more episodes somewhere to air so until then we have keep the season table open if there are more episodes.
Also, I couldn't help but notice that you recited something Kevinbrogers said. The statement you made above when you said: "It's possible that they just got tired of having the same old clips and decided to update them. Shows update intros in the middle of a season all the time. Some even change the song." is exactly what he said to me when he said this: "The theme song actually doesn't matter. It's possible that they just got tired of having the same old clips and decided to update them. Shows update intros in the middle of a season all the time. Some even change the song. Saying that they updated the intro because of a new season is pure original research, and we shouldn't base an argument on that."
| pscf3 wrote: |
| I added my two cents to the talk page. |
Just looked it over after editing my two cents. Nice response there.
| Huntley wrote: | ||||
We don't know for sure. There may be a couple more episodes somewhere to air so until then we have keep the season table open if there are more episodes. Also, I couldn't help but notice that you recited something Kevinbrogers said. The statement you made above when you said: "It's possible that they just got tired of having the same old clips and decided to update them. Shows update intros in the middle of a season all the time. Some even change the song." is exactly what he said to me when he said this: "The theme song actually doesn't matter. It's possible that they just got tired of having the same old clips and decided to update them. Shows update intros in the middle of a season all the time. Some even change the song. Saying that they updated the intro because of a new season is pure original research, and we shouldn't base an argument on that."
Just looked it over after editing my two cents. Nice response there. |
This was on July 22, 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP8jKs09Y88&list=UUYMs9CKScLfQnSHsJqfnztQ&index=30&feature=plcp
I had no idea you were a mod. I kind of figured that when I could post in your "Official Episode List" thread. So did you find any useful links we could use for Wikipedia?
