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    jujutheking

    [101]Dec 7, 2006
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    Nalesnik wrote:
    I based my decision on what we seen them do so far, and so far it seems that Toph would win. First of all, it seems that Toph knows more higher levelled techniques. Ex. ground-skating, rock armour, metalbending and a lot of defensive moves. We only seen Bumi do a couple good techniques, but nothing really "fancy" compared to Toph. Secondly, expereince doesn't always win over raw talent (at least not in the avatar world) ex, Azula, Aang, and of course Toph. Thirdly, she has Tophness I would like to point out again, that I am basing my decision on what we seen so far. Bumi many have a few tricks up his sleeve, but I can't "assume" he is better just because I haven't seen those tricks yet.

    U think he used all his strenght while fighting aang?He is freaking crazy

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    Nalesnik

    [102]Dec 7, 2006
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    jujutheking wrote:

    Nalesnik wrote:
    I based my decision on what we seen them do so far, and so far it seems that Toph would win. First of all, it seems that Toph knows more higher levelled techniques. Ex. ground-skating, rock armour, metalbending and a lot of defensive moves. We only seen Bumi do a couple good techniques, but nothing really "fancy" compared to Toph. Secondly, expereince doesn't always win over raw talent (at least not in the avatar world) ex, Azula, Aang, and of course Toph. Thirdly, she has Tophness I would like to point out again, that I am basing my decision on what we seen so far. Bumi many have a few tricks up his sleeve, but I can't "assume" he is better just because I haven't seen those tricks yet.

    U think he used all his strenght while fighting aang?He is freaking crazy



    No, you must have misunderstood me. I said the Bumi has many tricks up his sleeve, he hasn't revealed all his cards yet, but since I haven't seen them yet, I can't ASSUME he is better because of that. From what we seen them do so far, (and not the stuff we haven't seen yet) Toph looks like the better opponent.
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    HopeAndTruth

    [103]Dec 7, 2006
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    I second though Bummy is wise and old ....Toph is blind a there for is has that ability to know what move there gonna do next?
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    ISpeakTheTruth

    [104]Dec 7, 2006
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    Toph's main weakness isnt' her blindness it's her temper, remember when she first fought Aang and she couldn't find him because he wasn't walking on the ground? Then what happened she got frustrated and got sloppy and Aang was able to beat her without much of a fight just a little burst of air and she was done. Bumi would understand this too and so he would just stand still and wait for her to make mistakes after all he's been waiting in a steal cofin for weeks or months so he's a pacient one.

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    lastchancexi

    [105]Dec 7, 2006
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    Yeah, Bumi can see and toph can't. Major edge for Bumi, probably a winning one considering how skilled and crafty he is.
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    HopeAndTruth

    [106]Dec 7, 2006
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    I know that they would never fight ..but it would be could...
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    alexvoda

    [107]Dec 8, 2006
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    i think they will fight because it will be super cool but it will be a friendly match.

    first Toph is completely immune to direct earth and maybe fire attacks

    however she is vulnerable at indirect attacks and air & water direct attacks

    and probably her bigest weakness is her temper.Compared to Bumi who i don't see ever getting angry.

    Now Bumi probably knows earth-seeing but probably not as advanced as Toph since he can see but Toph has to use it as the main sense instead of sight.

    Metal-bending is not a advantage because they will most probably fight on earth Kingdom ground.Bumi most probably knows metal-bending quite well since he said he can escape anytime he wants.

    as i see the match will be like this:

    Angry??Toph will challenge calm Bumi to a match.Since Bumi has not met her before he will start evaluating his opponent to discover her weakness and he might use it or not.He will make her angry to make her attack him in all the ways she knows.He will probably mess wit her( he said it "first, it's fun messing with people") -- he did even get Aang(a monk )??angry.He??will simply annoy her to make her reveal her tricks.

    Round 2.

    He will indirectly (using the sealing etc.)??attack her OR use faceearth-bending since the face muscles aren't usually scanned by her for earth-bending movement OR use delayed attacks(hold a bolder in air a longer period so she dose not know where it is) OR use some other trick.

    The battle will end and Bumi will let Toph tie.It is his stile :he lets you win but you know you didn't win on your own-- he allowed it. Both will say that they had valuable opponents and will start learning from each other.

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    SapphireStones

    [108]Dec 8, 2006
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    alexvoda wrote:

    i think they will fight because it will be super cool but it will be a friendly match.

    first Toph is completely immune to direct earth and maybe fire attacks

    however she is vulnerable at indirect attacks and air & water direct attacks

    and probably her bigest weakness is her temper.Compared to Bumi who i don't see ever getting angry.

    Now Bumi probably knows earth-seeing but probably not as advanced as Toph since he can see but Toph has to use it as the main sense instead of sight.

    Metal-bending is not a advantage because they will most probably fight on earth Kingdom ground.Bumi most probably knows metal-bending quite well since he said he can escape anytime he wants.

    as i see the match will be like this:

    Angry??Toph will challenge calm Bumi to a match.Since Bumi has not met her before he will start evaluating his opponent to discover her weakness and he might use it or not.He will make her angry to make her attack him in all the ways she knows.He will probably mess wit her( he said it "first, it's fun messing with people") -- he did even get Aang(a monk )??angry.He??will simply annoy her to make her reveal her tricks.

    Round 2.

    He will indirectly (using the sealing etc.)??attack her OR use faceearth-bending since the face muscles aren't usually scanned by her for earth-bending movement OR use delayed attacks(hold a bolder in air a longer period so she dose not know where it is) OR use some other trick.

    The battle will end and Bumi will let Toph tie.It is his stile :he lets you win but you know you didn't win on your own-- he allowed it. Both will say that they had valuable opponents and will start learning from each other.


    Eh. Sounds about right. Nice.

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    alexvoda

    [109]Dec 8, 2006
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    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:

    Toph's main weakness isnt' her blindness it's her temper, remember when she first fought Aang and she couldn't find him because he wasn't walking on the ground? Then what happened she got frustrated and got sloppy and Aang was able to beat her without much of a fight just a little burst of air and she was done. Bumi would understand this too and so he would just stand still and wait for her to make mistakes after all he's been waiting in a steal cofin for weeks or months so he's a patient one.

    Yup he is very patient!!!

    And very calm.And don't forget what he said:"first of all, it's pretty fun messing with people but i did have a reason"

    He would drive Toph nuts to make her reveal her tricks and weaknesses

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    alexvoda

    [110]Dec 8, 2006
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    Nalesnik wrote:
    I based my decision on what we seen them do so far, and so far it seems that Toph would win. First of all, it seems that Toph knows more higher levelled techniques. Ex. ground-skating, rock armour, metalbending and a lot of defensive moves. We only seen Bumi do a couple good techniques, but nothing really "fancy" compared to Toph. Secondly, expereince doesn't always win over raw talent (at least not in the avatar world) ex, Azula, Aang, and of course Toph. Thirdly, she has Tophness I would like to point out again, that I am basing my decision on what we seen so far. Bumi many have a few tricks up his sleeve, but I can't "assume" he is better just because I haven't seen those tricks yet.

    he would beat her hands down with only what has been shown

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    mblizzow

    [111]Dec 8, 2006
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    alexvoda wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:

    Toph's main weakness isnt' her blindness it's her temper, remember when she first fought Aang and she couldn't find him because he wasn't walking on the ground? Then what happened she got frustrated and got sloppy and Aang was able to beat her without much of a fight just a little burst of air and she was done. Bumi would understand this too and so he would just stand still and wait for her to make mistakes after all he's been waiting in a steal cofin for weeks or months so he's a patient one.

    Yup he is very patient!!!

    And very calm.And don't forget what he said:"first of all, it's pretty fun messing with people but i did have a reason"

    He would drive Toph nuts to make her reveal her tricks and weaknesses



    well we cannot forget that it was bumi who told aang that he needed and earthbending teacher who listened to the earth. he would already know what she was capable of. and when it comes down to it i dont think it will be a match of strength or skill, bumi will have his humor and toph her anger, it almost wouldnt be about earthbending, but their emotions.
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    akdshay

    [112]Dec 8, 2006
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    alexvoda wrote:
    ISpeakTheTruth wrote:

    Toph's main weakness isnt' her blindness it's her temper, remember when she first fought Aang and she couldn't find him because he wasn't walking on the ground? Then what happened she got frustrated and got sloppy and Aang was able to beat her without much of a fight just a little burst of air and she was done. Bumi would understand this too and so he would just stand still and wait for her to make mistakes after all he's been waiting in a steal cofin for weeks or months so he's a patient one.

    Yup he is very patient!!!

    And very calm.And don't forget what he said:"first of all, it's pretty fun messing with people but i did have a reason"

    He would drive Toph nuts to make her reveal her tricks and weaknesses


    hands down you are right about that bomi would probabaly defeat toft in a blink of a eye by the time he is doen with her she'll be saying "lettuce leaf"
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    alexvoda

    [113]Dec 9, 2006
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    don't forget:

    "that's right!Keep diving head in! I'm sure it will work, eventually!"

    "not yet!I need help with another matter!I seams i lost my pet Flopsy"

    "what....Is may name?"

    and the best:

    "did someone leave the windows open?It feels a little draughty in here!Are you hoping I'll catch a cold???"

    Edited on 12/09/2006 8:40am
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    MCMLXVI

    [114]Dec 9, 2006
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    Bumi can bend earth from the air, and Toph still needs to learn that. Now that Toph figured out how to find the earth in metal, she should be able to learn how to find the earth in air or in water. She just needs practice. Luckily, she's got a couple people to help her with that: Katara can maneuver rocks in the water, and Aang can maneuver rocks in the air.
    Edited on 12/09/2006 8:11am
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    alexvoda

    [115]Dec 9, 2006
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    alexvoda wrote:

    i think they will fight because it will be super cool but it will be a friendly match.

    first Toph is completely immune to direct earth and maybe fire attacks

    however she is vulnerable at indirect attacks and air & water direct attacks

    and probably her bigest weakness is her temper.Compared to Bumi who i don't see ever getting angry.

    Now Bumi probably knows earth-seeing but probably not as advanced as Toph since he can see but Toph has to use it as the main sense instead of sight.

    Metal-bending is not a advantage because they will most probably fight on earth Kingdom ground.Bumi most probably knows metal-bending quite well since he said he can escape anytime he wants.

    as i see the match will be like this:

    Angry??Toph will challenge calm Bumi to a match.Since Bumi has not met her before he will start evaluating his opponent to discover her weakness and he might use it or not.He will make her angry to make her attack him in all the ways she knows.He will probably mess wit her( he said it "first, it's fun messing with people") -- he did even get Aang(a monk )??angry.He??will simply annoy her to make her reveal her tricks.

    Round 2.

    He will indirectly (using the sealing etc.)??attack her OR use faceearth-bending since the face muscles aren't usually scanned by her for earth-bending movement OR use delayed attacks(hold a bolder in air a longer period so she dose not know where it is) OR use some other trick.

    The battle will end and Bumi will let Toph tie.It is his stile :he lets you win but you know you didn't win on your own-- he allowed it. Both will say that they had valuable opponents and will start learning from each other.

    So what do you guys think of my opinion on how a battle will go?

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    juanantonio1

    [116]Dec 9, 2006
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    Toph would win, no doubt about it.
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    alexvoda

    [117]Dec 9, 2006
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    juanantonio1 wrote:
    Toph would win, no doubt about it.

    WHY?

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    Lord-darkboy

    [118]Dec 9, 2006
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    juanantonio1 wrote:
    Toph would win, no doubt about it.

    bumi would own her

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    alexvoda

    [119]Dec 9, 2006
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    Lord-darkboy wrote:

    juanantonio1 wrote:
    Toph would win, no doubt about it.

    bumi would own her

    it seams like we think the same way

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    MCMLXVI

    [120]Dec 9, 2006
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    Could you please take some time off from your posturing to help me flesh this out?
    MCMLXVI wrote:
    Bumi can bend earth from the air, and Toph still needs to learn that. Now that Toph figured out how to find the earth in metal, she should be able to learn how to find the earth in air or in water. She just needs practice. Luckily, she's got a couple people to help her with that: Katara can maneuver rocks in the water, and Aang can maneuver rocks in the air.
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