Axrendale wrote: |
Sektos wrote: | Axrendale wrote: | Sektos wrote: | Axrendale wrote: | On a final note - I do believe that Azula's strike was technically within the rules (although I will grant that it was extremely dishonorable). I'm feeling really tired right now - so I'll post it tommorow. Good night all. PEACE (lol. Irony) | Really? THough we dont have a rule book for us to browse (DAM lol) i dont think attempting to kill winesses/the audience of said fight as being within the rules. Ang Ki's are all about "honour" and are ussually fought over them. Its a one on one fight as far as we are aware. Its one of the things that i think would have made more sense in the finale if there was more ppl as winesses to the fight (similar to the crowd when Ozai was appointed) and that when they saw Azuala, and learning of the FL's plan from Zuko, attack Katara and Zuko sacrificing himself for her, they would be disgusted at her and consider her too dishonourable to rule |
The entire reason that there were no people there was because Azula had banished tme in a fit of psychotic paranoia. If therehad been people there, then she would presumably have been sane, and on much more equal footing with Zuko. So either way. As far as the rules go, I view it as being similar to a game of tennis. If one player hits the ball out, but before it can go out, the other player accidently knocks it back in, the ball stays in play. The fact that it was going out is irrelevant - the other player chose to hit it back in, the game goes on. Likewise, Zuko chose to intercept the lightning bolt, and keep the "game" going. To his detriment. | I get that she was crazy, again i have prob with this because it took away from the Zuko and Azula fight. By this point it was easily established in Boiling Rock and SOuther raiders that Zuko and Azula were atleast equals, if not Zuko now being better than her (he was kicking her ass in BR). And the thing about witnesses was because, as with previous point, it would have been better and helped explain why the FN followed Zuko's order to stop the war- fact that they didnt all know and didnt agree with the genocide and that Azula (and Ozai with the genocide) were unfit to rule. Haha good point with the tennis but this wasnt an off shot, it was clearly aimed at katara and Zuko made the effort to get in the way. Again back to my point with Azula dishonouring herself (with audience etc) and fit with the fact that u dont try to fire the balls at the audience on purpose and with intent to kill lol |
I really don't think Zuko was "kicking her ass" in BR. Azula definitely came out on top in that fight - the bedning match was something of a draw, but after Azula saw a way out (as always), the gaang needed Mai to save them. If it hadn't been for her, they all would have been boiled to death. If there had been crowds at the corronation, Azula would never even have had to fight the Agni Kai - she would have just done what she did in COD and ordered her enemies dragged off by innumberable guards. |
Zuko was able to block all of her moves easily and seemilngly without any effort. I think he had a bit of an advantage there and again your adding someting outside a fight (cutting the cables) as being part of it. It doesnt show how skilled either of them are. She basically ran away from the fight and had them cut the cables. Its the same as running out of a cave away from an enemy then blowing the entrance. Theirs no skill or fighting technique. Good strategy though low.Okay going into more detail, i would have had Katara and ZUko fight their way through Dai Lee and Honor gaurd to ceremony (i mean come on, did she literally ban ALLL the gaurds?) and would have revealed the plot to comit the genocide like i said before. Also Azula isnt as perfect to the people in the palace as you said- she's munipulative and (i would have kept scenes like the pip in the cherry) controling and without mercy. Zuko was herald as having been part of bringing down Ba Sing Sei, and though the play ultimately had Ozai and Azula winning, the crowd did like the other characters. And as mentioned by others the FN people ARE human and can care for others (like in Painted Ladies) learning that their Leader who si meant to be bringing peace to the EK is actually about to burn them all to death is a big deal; even destroying all they've fought for.
As ive said Ang Ki's are a matter of Hounour so if Zuko called for one in front of the ceremony and stated his claim to thrown Azula couldnt very well refuse. Then add, after revealing the plot and Azula not havign much love amoung those in palace, that she purposefully attacked a bystander after failing to defeat her brother (who i thought should have one ) would be be the last straw and remove all her honour; not fit to rule.
It does make a HE*LL of alot more sense than Zuko and Katara beating her in front of some sages, with no one else to witness, and suddenly being given full reign of the kingdom lol
Edited on 09/10/2008 6:26pm