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    UGamer08

    [61]Oct 21, 2006
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    That it does.

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    mikho928

    [62]Oct 22, 2006
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    mutt124 wrote:
    what kinda confuses me is the way the people in the desert bent the sand. i mean i can understand it being earth. but they were spining it like it wasent earthbending. the way i ussaly see earthbenders bending is very sturdy. not all spinny and stuff. it just doesent look like earth bending. it looked like air bending when they were doing it.


    Yea im pretty sure thats just a specialised style of earth bending like how the foggy swap water tribe "waterbend" vines of plants cause they contain water. I think its just an advanced form of how earthbenders like toph can controll dust clouds e.g in The Blind Bandit & The Drill, Pure speculation though.
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    KilalaRose

    [63]Oct 22, 2006
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    mutt124 wrote:
    what kinda confuses me is the way the people in the desert bent the sand. i mean i can understand it being earth. but they were spining it like it wasent earthbending. the way i ussaly see earthbenders bending is very sturdy. not all spinny and stuff. it just doesent look like earth bending. it looked like air bending when they were doing it.
    sand is crushed up pieces of quartz and rock; there, that explains how their earthbenders. Sandbenders have adapted to the harsh conditions of the desert and developed their own bending style for bending sand. if you remember in "Bitter Work" Iroh explained that he learned his technique for redirecting lightning by watching waterbenders' techniques. anyway, sandbenders can also bend solid earth too. don't you remember Toph bending the sand into solid stone so she could get a better grip?
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    Hakkido

    [64]Oct 22, 2006
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    I beleive to come that Anng is not the Last Air Bender. Its hard to tell but, thier are clues trought the Episodes that connect to the Air Themples. I know this may sound stupid but, the Animals of the world of Avatar know Bending aswell such as the Badger Moles whom earthbend. Then thier is Appa the only reason he can life his HUGE body is he air bends it with his tale and some movents in his spince and legs. (most of the time his legs just hang there lol)

    -My Theroy-
    Well the fact that Anng has a huge advantage of most of the Firebenders Atks and attempts to get him. I highly dought the Airbenders would give up so easily plus they are very wise. More than lickley the Airbends knew the Firenation was going to atk before it happend. As u will see the Southern Air temple was VERY eager to get Anng to master the 4 bending elments ASAP especialy at such a young age. It is possible the Air Benders are in Hideing within Moutins, caves or possibley they could be scatterd over Ba Sing Se you never know. plus this is just a guess on fact i accumulated over the series.
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    electricblue18

    [65]Oct 22, 2006
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    I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING...
    See, if Aang WAS to currently be the last airbender, and airbenders learned airbending from flying bison, why couldn't people born with the spirit be able to airbender after watching air bison. There isn't anything that says Appa is the last flying bison, only that Aang is the last airbender. There could be airbenders who reproduced with people from other nations, but they live somewhere in THAT nation instead of with the nomads. A citizen of China could move to the United States and after a while become a citizen, is that not possible in the avatar world for some odd reason? There could still be people with the airbending gene, AND they have the spirit, but they don't know it. If there are more flying bison, then the spirits of the world COULDN'T just let the airbenders go extinct. I think that the only way for the airbenders to completely become extinct is if the airbending spirit is destroyed, much like when the moon spirit was destroyed, waterbending would be extinct. There would still be people that have it, but they can't use it. Even if the airbenders aren't nomads, they may still be able to bend. Oh, and if the moon and ocean spirit are in mortal form, do you think the sun is in mortal form too?
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    MCMLXVI

    [66]Oct 22, 2006
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    mutt124 wrote:

    what kinda confuses me is the way the people in the desert bent the sand. i mean i can understand it being earth. but they were spinning it like it wasn't earthbending. the way i usually see earthbenders bending is very sturdy. not all spinny and stuff. it just doesn't look like earth bending. it looked like air bending when they were doing it.

    Learn a little about dust devils here. Apparently, wind is antithetical to dust devils. The sandsailers seem to work in a manner similar to hot-air balloons; the hot air hits the sail as it rises, propelling the sailer.

    Edited on 10/22/2006 3:51pm
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    J-ni11

    [67]Oct 22, 2006
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    Ummm are all of you forggeting something? When the avatar dies they are miraculusly reborn into another tribe. They arnet born from parents cause zuko even said once that aang doesn't have parentsI think it was in the end of book 1). So when aang dies and then the next two avatars die the next one to be born will have the ability to do airbending. Even if there is no air tribe he could figure it out one day that he can do airbending and then learn it(there are probably air scrolls like there were water scrolls so it's not like he needs anyone to teach him)this is why i think the avatar clycle will not break.

    ??However this probably wont be neccesary. Think about this, ??if aang doesn't die in the war then i'm pretty sure he will start thinking sbout the airbenders coming back and he will make it a goal to make more airbenders.He can do one of 2 things. He can search for other airbenders, which i personally don't believe they are all dead, since air benders can easily redirect fire so how could??they have all been wiped out and not water or earth? I think they did??like bumi and retreated??untill the avatar came back so they can lauch a counter attack. Also there are four air temples and there were more people at that one air temple??in aangs flashback than at the southern water tribe, so there was no shortage of air benders. Maybe there are not alot left but i think some are left. ??Or aang can try to bring back the air benders by having a bunch of kids and seeing if any can airbend.

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    electricblue18

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    J-ni11 wrote:

    Ummm are all of you forggeting something? When the avatar dies they are miraculusly reborn into another tribe. They arnet born from parents cause zuko even said once that aang doesn't have parentsI think it was in the end of book 1). So when aang dies and then the next two avatars die the next one to be born will have the ability to do airbending. Even if there is no air tribe he could figure it out one day that he can do airbending and then learn it(there are probably air scrolls like there were water scrolls so it's not like he needs anyone to teach him)this is why i think the avatar clycle will not break.

    However this probably wont be neccesary. Think about this, if aang doesn't die in the war then i'm pretty sure he will start thinking sbout the airbenders coming back and he will make it a goal to make more airbenders.He can do one of 2 things. He can search for other airbenders, which i personally don't believe they are all dead, since air benders can easily redirect fire so how could they have all been wiped out and not water or earth? I think they did like bumi and retreated untill the avatar came back so they can lauch a counter attack. Also there are four air temples and there were more people at that one air temple in aangs flashback than at the southern water tribe, so there was no shortage of air benders. Maybe there are not alot left but i think some are left. Or aang can try to bring back the air benders by having a bunch of kids and seeing if any can airbend.



    We aren't forgetting that they are born into another tribe, everyone knows that. It's just that the avatar would have to be born into a group of air nomads if they were the air avatar... They can't be born into just ANY tribe, it would have to be a tribe of Air Nomads. Otherwise the cycle would break.
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    Chrisfun2000

    [69]Oct 22, 2006
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    may be there might be more out there
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    J-ni11

    [70]Oct 22, 2006
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    electricblue18 wrote:
    J-ni11 wrote:

    Ummm are all of you forggeting something? When the avatar dies they are miraculusly reborn into another tribe. They arnet born from parents cause zuko even said once that aang doesn't have parentsI think it was in the end of book 1). So when aang dies and then the next two avatars die the next one to be born will have the ability to do airbending. Even if there is no air tribe he could figure it out one day that he can do airbending and then learn it(there are probably air scrolls like there were water scrolls so it's not like he needs anyone to teach him)this is why i think the avatar clycle will not break.

    However this probably wont be neccesary. Think about this, if aang doesn't die in the war then i'm pretty sure he will start thinking sbout the airbenders coming back and he will make it a goal to make more airbenders.He can do one of 2 things. He can search for other airbenders, which i personally don't believe they are all dead, since air benders can easily redirect fire so how could they have all been wiped out and not water or earth? I think they did like bumi and retreated untill the avatar came back so they can lauch a counter attack. Also there are four air temples and there were more people at that one air temple in aangs flashback than at the southern water tribe, so there was no shortage of air benders. Maybe there are not alot left but i think some are left. Or aang can try to bring back the air benders by having a bunch of kids and seeing if any can airbend.



    We aren't forgetting that they are born into another tribe, everyone knows that. It's just that the avatar would have to be born into a group of air nomads if they were the air avatar... They can't be born into just ANY tribe, it would have to be a tribe of Air Nomads. Otherwise the cycle would break.
    So your saying if there isn't a bunch of water benders standing around an area the avatar won't be reborn? He will be reborn no matter what and even if he doesn't learn the airbending first he can still learn it.
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    MCMLXVI

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    The next avatar will be born a waterbender, but it has not been revealed that the mother need be a waterbender herself as well.
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    electricblue18

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    J-ni11 wrote:
    electricblue18 wrote:
    J-ni11 wrote:

    Ummm are all of you forggeting something? When the avatar dies they are miraculusly reborn into another tribe. They arnet born from parents cause zuko even said once that aang doesn't have parentsI think it was in the end of book 1). So when aang dies and then the next two avatars die the next one to be born will have the ability to do airbending. Even if there is no air tribe he could figure it out one day that he can do airbending and then learn it(there are probably air scrolls like there were water scrolls so it's not like he needs anyone to teach him)this is why i think the avatar clycle will not break.

    However this probably wont be neccesary. Think about this, if aang doesn't die in the war then i'm pretty sure he will start thinking sbout the airbenders coming back and he will make it a goal to make more airbenders.He can do one of 2 things. He can search for other airbenders, which i personally don't believe they are all dead, since air benders can easily redirect fire so how could they have all been wiped out and not water or earth? I think they did like bumi and retreated untill the avatar came back so they can lauch a counter attack. Also there are four air temples and there were more people at that one air temple in aangs flashback than at the southern water tribe, so there was no shortage of air benders. Maybe there are not alot left but i think some are left. Or aang can try to bring back the air benders by having a bunch of kids and seeing if any can airbend.



    We aren't forgetting that they are born into another tribe, everyone knows that. It's just that the avatar would have to be born into a group of air nomads if they were the air avatar... They can't be born into just ANY tribe, it would have to be a tribe of Air Nomads. Otherwise the cycle would break.
    So your saying if there isn't a bunch of water benders standing around an area the avatar won't be reborn? He will be reborn no matter what and even if he doesn't learn the airbending first he can still learn it.

    Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Otherwise the world would become unbalanced, and eventually fall into a Dark Age. I'm not saying that they wouldn't be able to learn airbending, but the world of avatar is based on the 4 elements, and the 4 nations. Aang was born when the world was at peace. As soon as he went missing, the Fire Nation attacked. IF Aang is the last airbender, and no other airbender exists after Aang dies, then the Avatar Cycle may not exist. It was meant from the beginning that the spirit of the avatar be set in a cycle of FOUR nations, and FOUR elements, not THREE. The airbender would need to be born into the Air Nomads, it's not like the avatar spirit will just skip an entire nation. However, I think that the Air Nomads HAD to have reproduced with people from other nations sometime or another. Therefore, there will probably be an avatar from the Air Nomads, but it will just have Air Nomad DNA and some other nation's DNA. But I still believe that if there was no trace of the Air Nomads DNA in any person in the entire world, the avatar would either have to skip an entire generation, or the cycle will be broken by the spirit because there aren't any nomads left to sustain the needs of another child.
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    mikho928

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    Hakkido wrote:
    -My Theroy- Well the fact that Anng has a huge advantage of most of the Firebenders Atks and attempts to get him. I highly dought the Airbenders would give up so easily plus they are very wise. More than lickley the Airbends knew the Firenation was going to atk before it happend. As u will see the Southern Air temple was VERY eager to get Anng to master the 4 bending elments ASAP especialy at such a young age. It is possible the Air Benders are in Hideing within Moutins, caves or possibley they could be scatterd over Ba Sing Se you never know. plus this is just a guess on fact i accumulated over the series..


    I like this theory, i also recall in the episode Return to Omashu, Aang told the earth kingdom resitance that it is better to retreat and live to fight another day. Theres no point to continue to fight in a battle that is already lost.

    Perhaps the airbenders realised this and went into hiding untill the avatar had reached his full potential, after all Aang had already mastered air bending so the air naomads had pretty much fulfilled their responsibility to the avatar.
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    cabbit_BIGD

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    mikho928 wrote:
    Hakkido wrote:
    -My Theroy- Well the fact that Anng has a huge advantage of most of the Firebenders Atks and attempts to get him. I highly dought the Airbenders would give up so easily plus they are very wise. More than lickley the Airbends knew the Firenation was going to atk before it happend. As u will see the Southern Air temple was VERY eager to get Anng to master the 4 bending elments ASAP especialy at such a young age. It is possible the Air Benders are in Hideing within Moutins, caves or possibley they could be scatterd over Ba Sing Se you never know. plus this is just a guess on fact i accumulated over the series..
    I like this theory, i also recall in the episode Return to Omashu, Aang told the earth kingdom resitance that it is better to retreat and live to fight another day. Theres no point to continue to fight in a battle that is already lost. Perhaps the airbenders realised this and went into hiding untill the avatar had reached his full potential, after all Aang had already mastered air bending so the air naomads had pretty much fulfilled their responsibility to the avatar.

    Though you would think they would present themselves to Aang by now. Unless they are somewhere they can't recieve inforation from the outside world. But we know Gyatso died. OMG its sooo simple. If We saw one airbender body (Gyatso's body was the only one they found. You'd think that if all the airbenders fought their bodies would all have been there.

    Let me know what you think, and im gonna go post this other places too. Cuz i think i might be on to something here.

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    cabbit_BIGD wrote:

    mikho928 wrote:
    Hakkido wrote:
    -My Theroy- Well the fact that Anng has a huge advantage of most of the Firebenders Atks and attempts to get him. I highly dought the Airbenders would give up so easily plus they are very wise. More than lickley the Airbends knew the Firenation was going to atk before it happend. As u will see the Southern Air temple was VERY eager to get Anng to master the 4 bending elments ASAP especialy at such a young age. It is possible the Air Benders are in Hideing within Moutins, caves or possibley they could be scatterd over Ba Sing Se you never know. plus this is just a guess on fact i accumulated over the series..
    I like this theory, i also recall in the episode Return to Omashu, Aang told the earth kingdom resitance that it is better to retreat and live to fight another day. Theres no point to continue to fight in a battle that is already lost. Perhaps the airbenders realised this and went into hiding untill the avatar had reached his full potential, after all Aang had already mastered air bending so the air naomads had pretty much fulfilled their responsibility to the avatar.

    Though you would think they would present themselves to Aang by now. Unless they are somewhere they can't recieve inforation from the outside world. But we know Gyatso died. OMG its sooo simple. If We saw one airbender body (Gyatso's body was the only one they found. You'd think that if all the airbenders fought their bodies would all have been there.

    Let me know what you think, and im gonna go post this other places too. Cuz i think i might be on to something here.



    If there is one thing kids shows need its more corpses!
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    If there is one thing kids shows need its more corpses!

    They could justify it as a Halloween episode
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    IdeaBender wrote:
    dumbTVnut wrote:
    If there is one thing kids shows need its more corpses!
    They could justify it as a Halloween episode
    Dealer: Okay, man, here's the sugar. Now you give us the money.
    Homer: [pushes off in the raft] That wasn't part of the deal. [laughs]
    Dealer: [consults the contract] He's right. [to his henchmen] Who wrote this thing!?

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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    yeah i concur. i read somewhere that when ang found momo it gave ang hope that his people were still alive somewhere. so i think youre right they could be hiding somewhere blending in with the crowd.
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    Murraymuzz

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    Now i think about it, it is a little odd that Gyatso's body was the only one we saw.
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    dumbTVnut

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    mikho928 wrote:

    I was just thinking, if Anng is the last airbender then wouldnt the avatar cycle eventually be broken? After and the avatar would be born into water, then earth, then fire and eventually end up back to air, but if theres none left then will the avatar cease to exist?

    What are your thoughts on this



    Many have thought about it over the course of this thread and have replied:
    1. The avatar would cease to exist.
    2. The avatar would be born as a airbender out of a existing nation and would have to rediscover airbending.
    3. Only the Gods/writers know, ask them.

    there summed up, nothign left to do here.
    Edited on 10/24/2006 9:42pm
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