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Official Episode Discussion: The Earth King (Spoilers)

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    kuzon234ray

    [41]Nov 13, 2006
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    I know, I did the same thing...

    I bet 100 avatar gummies that Zuko is going to pass-out at least once.
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    KilalaRose

    [42]Nov 13, 2006
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    kuzon234ray wrote:
    I know, I did the same thing...

    I bet 100 avatar gummies that Zuko is going to pass-out at least once.
    make it pennies and you're on
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    adidaZuko

    [43]Nov 13, 2006
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    SifuKatara wrote:
    Allow me to help, this will help us speculate about the zuko stuff much more. This episode is a follow up on Zuko Alone. This means that we should all work on our Ursa/Azulon/Ozai theories some more. I hope this isnt a spoiler, pooldude, i think its just an intreger. Rewatch Zuko Alone everybody. I still believe Ursa killed Azulon, and that Ozai being fire lord was part of the deal in the ag ni kai that they had. Then Ursa ran away, and all along, Zuko was not going to be sacrificed, Azula lied about that to try to get Ozai to be fire lord so that she could maybe take the throne. The phrase in The Avatar State, "like I haven't done that (lying) before," was possibly referring to this situation where she lied to ursa in hopes to kill azulon off and make herself closer to power.

    You know something related to that episode is going to happen? You haven't already seen or, you don't already know about the episode do you?

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    CCgirlie

    [44]Nov 14, 2006
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    Is it just me or does Zuko pass out way too easily for a dude? Just saying (put down the knives rabid fangirls). Anyways I think that may have something to do with why his dad hates him, cause he was never strong enough (remember "he says I was lucky to be born") maybe anyways...

    And yeah I'm pretty sure he'll pass out at least once.
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    waterbender22

    [45]Nov 14, 2006
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    There is a preview for the Earth King on turbo nick!?? Just go to the regualr site and it will play!?? It's really cool!?? I already have a favorite quote from Toph!?? And she ahs a new nickname for Katara!?? It's really cool!?? Just go to www.turbonick.com and you can see it!?? It's only two minutes, but it is something and it's the second segment on teh on the thing.

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    Neurosylum

    [46]Nov 14, 2006
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    waterbender22 wrote:

    Okay.?? All I wanted was a brief explainaiton as to what was going on in the preview.?? I need someone to paint a picture for me as to waht was going on and how the gang was grapped.?? That's all I asked for.?? I wasn't putting Toph down.?? Believe me. Toph is my second favorite character!?? I was just wondering why she couldn't get them out.?? I was saying it in an acusatory way.?? I would really like it if someone could please expalin to me what happened in the preview.?? And I'm sorry if I offended you.?? That wasn't the way i intended for that to come out.



    It just looks to me they're scaling up an angled wall while they use earthbending to propel themselves (just like in The Drill).
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    waterbender22

    [47]Nov 14, 2006
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    THank you for the explaination!?? You jsut made my vieweing of hte Earth King more anticipated.?? Thank you for your help.?? And I saw the preview for the Earth King on turbo nick!?? It was really cool!?? I can't wait for it!?? And Toph has a newe nickname for Katara!?? She called her 'sweetness."?? I hope turbonick airs the whole entire thing before Friday!?? That would be so cool!
    Well thanks agai nfor your help!
    I would LOVE to talk to you on MSN Messenger. And the same goes for everyone else on this forum who has MSN Messenger.?? My screen name forit is Rose-warriorgirl23@hotmail.com?? feel free to add me to your contact lists!

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    AKAE124Ultima

    [48]Nov 14, 2006
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    waterbender22 wrote:

    THank you for the explaination!?? You jsut made my vieweing of hte Earth King more anticipated.?? Thank you for your help.?? And I saw the preview for the Earth King on turbo nick!?? It was really cool!?? I can't wait for it!?? And Toph has a newe nickname for Katara!?? She called her 'sweetness."?? I hope turbonick airs the whole entire thing before Friday!?? That would be so cool!
    Well thanks agai nfor your help!
    I would LOVE to talk to you on MSN Messenger. And the same goes for everyone else on this forum who has MSN Messenger.?? My screen name forit is Rose-warriorgirl23@hotmail.com?? feel free to add me to your contact lists!



    I still think "Sugar Queen" is more fitting, though. lol
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    cg_619

    [49]Nov 14, 2006
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    On the turbonick's summary is says zuko will have future freams? So I think zuko's "future dreams"?? will be about seeing his mother. And then in season 3, he will search for her. Or they could be about helping aang. I would like either one!?? But w/e happend to the follow up of zuko alone?
    Edited on 11/14/2006 11:38am
    Edited 2 total times.
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    Neurosylum

    [50]Nov 14, 2006
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    waterbender22 wrote:

    THank you for the explaination!?? You jsut made my vieweing of hte Earth King more anticipated.?? Thank you for your help.?? And I saw the preview for the Earth King on turbo nick!?? It was really cool!?? I can't wait for it!?? And Toph has a newe nickname for Katara!?? She called her 'sweetness."?? I hope turbonick airs the whole entire thing before Friday!?? That would be so cool!
    Well thanks agai nfor your help!
    I would LOVE to talk to you on MSN Messenger. And the same goes for everyone else on this forum who has MSN Messenger.?? My screen name forit is Rose-warriorgirl23@hotmail.com?? feel free to add me to your contact lists!

    I doubt Nick will be doing that twice if they saw it leak into www.youtube.com.

    I don't know what Toph's basis for all these sweet/sugary nicknames for Katara are since I usually see (imo) Katara as being pushy and whiny and naggy most of the time.

    But yeah, you're welcome.

    Edited on 11/14/2006 11:58am
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    waterbender22

    [51]Nov 14, 2006
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    Okay.?? Thanks for the help.?? But Katara is NOT whiny or nagging or whatever else you said about her. She's sweet and kind an is very helpful.?? She sticks up for those who can't stick up for themselves and she helps those in need.?? That's how she was raised and that's how she is.?? She is a compassionate, kind ??and friendly person.?? She and I share the same personality and element. So if you're calling her whiny and nagging and pushy, then you're calling me that as well. And I am MOST definitely not whiny or pusy or nagging!?? Does a water whip in anger.?? Please choose your words more carefully next time. And anyway, what examples

    do you have to back up your opinion?

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    adidaZuko

    [52]Nov 14, 2006
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    waterbender22 wrote:

    Okay.?? Thanks for the help.?? But Katara is NOT whiny or nagging or whatever else you said about her. She's sweet and kind an is very helpful.?? She sticks up for those who can't stick up for themselves and she helps those in need.?? That's how she was raised and that's how she is.?? She is a compassionate, kind ??and friendly person.?? She and I share the same personality and element. So if you're calling her whiny and nagging and pushy, then you're calling me that as well. And I am MOST definitely not whiny or pusy or nagging!?? Does a water whip in anger.?? Please choose your words more carefully next time. And anyway, what examples

    do you have to back up your opinion?

    Not to offend you, but Katara can be whinny, pushy, and nagging and has been. I'm NOT saying you are, if you say you have the same personality. I could back up my opinion and if you don't believe me I will, I just don't want to make this post longer than it has to be.

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    Avatar_hick101

    [53]Nov 14, 2006
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    waterbender22 wrote:

    There is a preview for the Earth King on turbo nick! Just go to the regualr site and it will play! It's really cool! I already have a favorite quote from Toph! And she ahs a new nickname for Katara! It's really cool! Just go to www.turbonick.com and you can see it! It's only two minutes, but it is something and it's the second segment on teh on the thing.



    Thank you for telling us(me) that, I never would've checked turbo nick. But didn't those boats look like they were from the Water tribe?

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    AKAE124Ultima

    [54]Nov 14, 2006
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    adidaZuko wrote:
    waterbender22 wrote:

    Okay.?? Thanks for the help.?? But Katara is NOT whiny or nagging or whatever else you said about her. She's sweet and kind an is very helpful.?? She sticks up for those who can't stick up for themselves and she helps those in need.?? That's how she was raised and that's how she is.?? She is a compassionate, kind ??and friendly person.?? She and I share the same personality and element. So if you're calling her whiny and nagging and pushy, then you're calling me that as well. And I am MOST definitely not whiny or pusy or nagging!?? Does a water whip in anger.?? Please choose your words more carefully next time. And anyway, what examples

    do you have to back up your opinion?

    Not to offend you, but Katara can be whinny, pushy, and nagging and has been. I'm NOT saying you are, if you say you have the same personality. I could back up my opinion and if you don't believe me I will, I just don't want to make this post longer than it has to be.



    Yeah, if you guys think that Katara is always kind and caring, just re-watch "The Chase."
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    Neurosylum

    [55]Nov 14, 2006
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    waterbender22 wrote:

    Okay.?? Thanks for the help.?? But Katara is NOT whiny or nagging or whatever else you said about her. She's sweet and kind an is very helpful.?? She sticks up for those who can't stick up for themselves and she helps those in need.?? That's how she was raised and that's how she is.?? She is a compassionate, kind ??and friendly person.?? She and I share the same personality and element. So if you're calling her whiny and nagging and pushy, then you're calling me that as well. And I am MOST definitely not whiny or pusy or nagging!?? Does a water whip in anger.?? Please choose your words more carefully next time. And anyway, what examples

    do you have to back up your opinion?

    Well, I've never seen an avatar fan take Avatar Personal Quizzes so seriously, but, hey, I'm not really bothered by your typed water whip. And if I wanted to call you whiny/pushy/and/or/naggy, I could have said:

    "waterbender22, you are whiny, pushy, and naggy."

    At least in calling Katara whiny, pushy, and naggy, and not you,??I have distinguished you from a two-dimensional cartoon character.

    I hope you remember as you grow older that television shows are only for entertainment. They are not guidelines as to how we live our lives. Although, the government would like to disagree and does try to use TV as a way to shape our society...

    But I digress. I wouldn't say I hate Katara, I'm pointing out that she isn't always a perfect/kind/sweet human being. Yes, she can come off as pretty selfish (rewatch the waterbending scroll episode), anal (see the Chase), easily offended, whiny, and naggy (the last three characteristics were obviously evident in episode 1 where Sokka places emphasis on the fact she's a girl and she complains about doing his laundry).

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    Herbert0

    [56]Nov 14, 2006
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    I hope they don't make zuko sick at the end of the episode showing one vision and that's it, but it might just be, since the time frame between this episode and the last episode seems to be only one hour.

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    Neurosylum

    [57]Nov 14, 2006
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    The question is how does Zuko get sick anyways? Tea poisoning? Like in Bitter Work where Zuko says something about the tea clearing your mind, on this episode he might O.D. on the tea...
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    PrincessZula

    [58]Nov 14, 2006
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    I'm really lost now

    So our first "Summery" said that Aang, Sokka, Katara, and Toph try to get to the Earth King and stuff, and that Zuko fell seriously ill [with what we'll find out] and has weird dreams as he faces spiritual crisis [what ever that means]

    Then the TurboNick trailer said that Zuko dream's predict strange things...

    Don't question how this confuses me but it does, somehow I figure that this hype about Zuko being sick is really nothing [like the the overhyped Fury of Aang] and then again *goes back to uber confusion*

    someone just straighten this out for me please, ??

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    waterbender22

    [59]Nov 14, 2006
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    Okay.?? I jsut read yoru reply.?? And to answer your questions or really respond to what you wrote, in The Chase, Katara is NOT selfish.?? I've dealt wit ha lot of people like Toph, in taht, they don't want to do theri share.?? I've even been on the other side of that fence.?? I can understand what Katara is coimng from.?? She's used to the boys doing thier share without complaint, well Aang is theo ne who mostly never complains.?? And Sokka, well Sokka is Sokka. Anyway, Katara just wanted Toph to do her share, and rightly so.?? Toph is part of the group and she should help out.

    Now for the Waterbending Scroll.?? I don't think Katara was being selfish there.?? She was trying ot become a good waterbender to make her mother proud.?? She really wanted?? to make her mother proud of her. She misses her.?? And she gave the scroll back to Aang at the end. Well, okay, she stole it from Sokka, but that's besides hte point.?? Anyway, now to the Avatar Returns thing.?? Katara was probably frustrated about having to do evertyhing since her mother passed away.?? And Katara was probably venting some anger about the raid on thei rvillage.?? She misses her mother something awful and she needed to vent about it. So she picked hte most likely target, Sokka and his irresponsibility.??

    Lastly, I do know the difference between reality and fantasty.?? But the reason I like Avatar so much is because they have characters that you can identify with and share traits with and learn from.?? And mine happen to be Katara and Toph.?? I share Katara's personality and water is my element.?? And like Toph, I am also visually impaired and very stubborn.

    I don't want ot be your enemy, I want ot be your friend. But I jsut didnt' like the way you talked badly about Katara.?? She is my fave cahracter. Everyone is intitled to their own opinion, but next time, choose your words bit more carefully.?? And as for another thing, Katara has NEVER whined throughout the whole series.?? The only time I've ever heard her complain?? was in Imprisoned.?? Katara:?? Dawn??? Can't we sleep in for once??? ANd she didnt' complain about it afterwards.?? She was fine.

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    waterbender22

    [60]Nov 14, 2006
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    Okay.?? I see your point with the Chase.?? But one thing though.?? Katara did tr yand explain to Toph that she needed to help out. She idd rather nicely I might add.?? "So Topoh, usually when setting up camp, we try and divide up the work."?? Toph non plused.?? "Don't worry about me, I'm good to go."?? Katara:?? "Actually, what I'm trying to say is.?? One of us might fetch water, while one of us may set up the fire pit or put up the tent. Even Momo does his fair share."?? Toph:?? "Katara, I'm fine.?? I don't need a fire. I already collected my own food and loo!?? My tent is all set up."?? Katara:?? "Well that's great for you.?? But we still need to-"?? Toph (A little testily):?? I don't understand, what's the probelm here!?? Katara:?? "Never mind."?? Then later on, Katara does apologize to Toph.?? But Toph still doesn't get it.?? So I guess my point is, Katara did try to be nice to her and explain things in a calm relaxed way.?? But Toph didnt' get it.?? And I think taht was from being sheltered for so long and not having to do anything for herself as far as cooking or cleanign up went.?? I'm the same way, but since I have more of Katara in me, I volunteer to help out more and try and learn how to do things.

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