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Official Discussion: The Guru/The Crossroads of Destiny (12/1 - Spoilers)

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    NBCisNUMBER4

    [1101]Dec 10, 2006
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    sadist_activst wrote:

    kuzon234ray wrote:
    Can you give me the screenshot?

    No, b/c it won???t show up I don???t know why.

    ??

    Remember in Boy in the Ice Berg when Aang first comes out of the Avatar State, and Katara ketches him. He wakes up, she smiles. And remember in CRoD Aang comes out of the AS, Katara ketches him, he wakes up, she smiles. They???re very similar, someone may have pointed this out.

    (sarcasticly)REALLY!!!!!!CAUSE I HAD NO IDEA!!!!!(srry i become really sarcastic?? when im mad)

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    sadist_activst

    [1102]Dec 10, 2006
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    Don't hurt my feelings. *sniff*
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    CyprisFire

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    NBCisNUMBER4 wrote:
    ok i need some help....i have been avoiding the forums for a week cause i have been really sad....the season finale was really sad(for me anyway).....ok so what does it mean that aang has to give up katara.....does he have to leave her behind?...or does he stop loving her?.....im so confused!!!!!!!


    Nobody knows exactly, thats what makes it so maddening.?? He may have let her go and stopped loving her, he may have let the fear of losing her go, he may still love her.?? Plus the fact of was he dead or not.?? If he was killed in the avatar state and revived, is the chain broken (He still is the avatar because he flashed)?? Or is he just going to lose the chain of past avatars lending him their wisdom for the Avatar state, If he was only mortally wounded, Has he changed after opening all the chakras??? He may be a bit different in personality after all this, the writers do love character development, letting them change when they need to, he may be the same old Aang.?? Everyone has a theory, but I bet the premere of Season 3 will blow us all out of the water anyways.
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    ndnprincess

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    I think Zuko acted out in heat of passion. Which means something upsets him enough he wanted to get revenge without even thinking first. (If that makes sense to you.) Did you see how Zuko reacted when Katara told him she can try to heal the scar. He closed his eyes without answering her. I loved that moment but then Aang burst in and crushes that moment and Zuko becomes angry. After Aang and Katara left the cave Zuko looks at her from the corner of his eye and??the sorrowful look Katara gave him that was a good but??sad moment.

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    Ecfyeti

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    ndnprincess wrote:

    I think Zuko acted out in heat of passion. Which means something upsets him enough he wanted to get revenge without even thinking first. (If that makes sense to you.) Did you see how Zuko reacted when Katara told him she can try to heal the scar. He closed his eyes without answering her. I loved that moment but then Aang burst in and crushes that moment and Zuko becomes angry. After Aang and Katara left the cave Zuko looks at her from the corner of his eye and??the sorrowful look Katara gave him that was a good but??sad moment.

    Katara was looking at Zuko, but Zuko seemed as if he was looking at the ground in disappointment.

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    robaray

    [1106]Dec 10, 2006
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    Anyone remember the part when Aang was falling and katara rose up on the wave to save him...well it reminded me of a painting of some sort of goddess or nymph but i cant remember it right now...anyway, they both were riding on the crest of a wave with their hair flowing behind and their arms arms back behind them...kinda like the figureheads on some old ships...but I though this might be a clue to the relationship between aang and katara based on which goddess/nymph is depicted this way. And also when aang was clearing the celestial chakra at the end and was shot, the giant representation of himself fell down too whereas when he voluntarily stopped it from happening with the guru, only he fell...so this prob means something which i'm guessing is the end of the avatar line but then again, i don't think nick would do that.

    so based on the similarities between the eastern philosophies of chakra and the elements in avatar and naruto, here's something from the recent mangas on wiki "Yamato decides to explain elemental strengths and weaknesses to Naruto. After much dumbing down, he illustrates that each element is both stronger and weaker than another. The order is fire, wind, lightning, earth, and water, which each being weaker than the previous and stronger than the next. Water loops back into fire."
    so this can help explain katara besting azula for a short time and then aang's(wind) eventual beating of azula(lightning)

    so thats a few of my thoughts
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    PrincessZula

    [1107]Dec 10, 2006
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    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.
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    ardron

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    sadist_activst wrote:
    Don't hurt my feelings. *sniff*

    Your already sad. J/K

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    CyprisFire

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    PrincessZula wrote:
    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.


    Well THAT was a metaphore within a metaphore.?? she got shot, not fatally, but she thought she was going to fall to her death which would have killed her because thats what she beleived.?? Neo caught her going like, 100,000 mph, the change of direction should have liquified her bones and snapped her neck, but since she was in the arms of her lover, where she beleived she was safe, she was safe.

    I'm not sure that actually applies to Avatar because its not a illusionary world.
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    sapphyraine

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    CyprisFire wrote:
    PrincessZula wrote:
    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.


    Well THAT was a metaphore within a metaphore.?? she got shot, not fatally, but she thought she was going to fall to her death which would have killed her because thats what she beleived.?? Neo caught her going like, 100,000 mph, the change of direction should have liquified her bones and snapped her neck, but since she was in the arms of her lover, where she beleived she was safe, she was safe.

    I'm not sure that actually applies to Avatar because its not a illusionary world.


    Liquified her bones and snapped her neck? Um... okay. Lovely thoughts. Lol.
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    Eman5805

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    CyprisFire wrote:
    PrincessZula wrote:
    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.


    Well THAT was a metaphore within a metaphore.?? she got shot, not fatally, but she thought she was going to fall to her death which would have killed her because thats what she beleived.?? Neo caught her going like, 100,000 mph, the change of direction should have liquified her bones and snapped her neck, but since she was in the arms of her lover, where she beleived she was safe, she was safe.

    I'm not sure that actually applies to Avatar because its not a illusionary world.

    Yeah it's just an animated one.

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    Ecfyeti

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    Eman5805 wrote:

    CyprisFire wrote:
    PrincessZula wrote:
    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.


    Well THAT was a metaphore within a metaphore.?? she got shot, not fatally, but she thought she was going to fall to her death which would have killed her because thats what she beleived.?? Neo caught her going like, 100,000 mph, the change of direction should have liquified her bones and snapped her neck, but since she was in the arms of her lover, where she beleived she was safe, she was safe.

    I'm not sure that actually applies to Avatar because its not a illusionary world.

    Yeah it's just an animated one.

    Roger Rabbit was real...

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    ndnprincess

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    Ecfyeti wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:

    CyprisFire wrote:
    PrincessZula wrote:
    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.


    Well THAT was a metaphore within a metaphore.?? she got shot, not fatally, but she thought she was going to fall to her death which would have killed her because thats what she beleived.?? Neo caught her going like, 100,000 mph, the change of direction should have liquified her bones and snapped her neck, but since she was in the arms of her lover, where she beleived she was safe, she was safe.

    I'm not sure that actually applies to Avatar because its not a illusionary world.

    Yeah it's just an animated one.

    Roger Rabbit was real...

    I don't thinks rules of phyiscs count for animated shows.

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    EMD123

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    ndnprincess wrote:
    Ecfyeti wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:

    CyprisFire wrote:
    PrincessZula wrote:
    What the Katara *catching Aang* part reminded me of the Matrix Reloaded. When Neo caught Trinity and brought her back to life.


    Well THAT was a metaphore within a metaphore.?? she got shot, not fatally, but she thought she was going to fall to her death which would have killed her because thats what she beleived.?? Neo caught her going like, 100,000 mph, the change of direction should have liquified her bones and snapped her neck, but since she was in the arms of her lover, where she beleived she was safe, she was safe.

    I'm not sure that actually applies to Avatar because its not a illusionary world.

    Yeah it's just an animated one.

    Roger Rabbit was real...

    I don't thinks rules of phyiscs count for animated shows.

    Yeah, in The Drill at the end Azula slid down the drill, dropped fifty feet and was not hurt.

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    obsessedchic1

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    Yeah and when rocks fall on the fighters, They don't even have a scratch on them.
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    pooldude256

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    Might seem a bit out of the blue...but I have received official word....

    Aang did in fact die, and Katara revived him.
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    NBCisNUMBER4

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    pooldude256 wrote:
    Might seem a bit out of the blue...but I have received official word.... Aang did in fact die, and Katara revived him.

    NO WAY REALLY!!!!!!!man pooldude where do u find this stuff.....i looked everywhere and i cant find anything......GO KATARA!!!!!

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    PrincessZula

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    Thank you??PoolDude... you have awesome resources. Who exactly do you talk to on the Avatar Staff?? Tell them that I say THANK YOU!!!??

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    pooldude256

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    PrincessZula wrote:

    Thank you PoolDude... you have awesome resources. Who exactly do you talk to on the Avatar Staff?? Tell them that I say THANK YOU!!!



    Like I said before, I can't tell you that. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to get the info I get. It's easier to go with nameless sources then you can actually post the info you find out, instead of keeping it to yourself. But it also makes people think you're lying...not giving a name means you're just making it up. Well believe what you want...people don't get though that sources aren't named for their own protection. When the AP puts an "inside source who spoke on the condition of anomytiy" do people question them? No, they usually assume it's correct because that way they get the inside knowledge and the person who said what he/she said doesn't get in trouble. Same deal here
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    PrincessZula

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    pooldude256 wrote:
    PrincessZula wrote:

    Thank you PoolDude... you have awesome resources. Who exactly do you talk to on the Avatar Staff?? Tell them that I say THANK YOU!!!



    Like I said before, I can't tell you that. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to get the info I get. It's easier to go with nameless sources then you can actually post the info you find out, instead of keeping it to yourself. But it also makes people think you're lying...not giving a name means you're just making it up. Well believe what you want...people don't get though that sources aren't named for their own protection. When the AP puts an "inside source who spoke on the condition of anomytiy" do people question them? No, they usually assume it's correct because that way they get the inside knowledge and the person who said what he/she said doesn't get in trouble. Same deal here


    Makes sense and I respect that, but will you tell that individual thank you on behalf of me and the rest of the forum for keeping us sane enough till the next episode aires? And I thank you too PoolDude for sharing this stuff with us.. instead of keeping it to yourself
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