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Does Katara love Aang? The Ending

After seeing the new trailer, wich ship ( you think ) will happen?

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    WiseLad

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    all right page 100 already
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    fatsomama

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    tommy2071 wrote:

    LeonMorado wrote:
    tommy2071 wrote:
    And to say her first kiss isnt what she wanted, thats lame too. It seemed to me she enjoyed it.
    maybe it did seem that way to you, but that speculation is entirely based on your own context of the situation, not on what was actually going on. and as for people saying we don't have enough time for zutara to develop, that really is a weak argument. we've got 10 episodes left and a LOT can happen in half a season, even if they're not together for all 10 eps.

    I'm not trying to bash anyone, but You guys again fail to see the big picture. You dont want Aang and Katara to be together so you fail to notice whats going on. But there has been nothing in the way of a Zuko and Katara romance.Time is important, there isnt much left. Zuko is joining to help Aang, not break his heart. He has no feelings for her. and she has none for him. Yes it could develop, but there isnt time. There is too much going on. And to say Katara does not love Aang is absurd. Can you guys not see the vibes? Apparently not because its not what you want. I ship Kataang because its logical. I see the signs. I understand whats going on. When I first started watching this show, it was at the end of sezason 2. I thought Zuko and Katara would end up togther and I thought Toph and Aang were together. I have realized that was not the intent. From the beginning its always been about Aang and Katara. The creators have even said thats the DNA of the show. They are not going to throw away 2.5 years of Aang crushing and falling in love with Katara just to have her go with Zuko. There has never been anything romantic between them. If you can name one instance, I'll eat my words. The crossroads of destiny was NOT romatic either. They bonded over them losing their mom's. I know you guys will find something to twist in my logic. It never fails. All I ask is that you look at everything from Episode 1 to 51 from a different perspective.
    see the thing is i know how to separate my personal interpretations of what i see in the show from the show itself. but you're hardly in a position to accuse otherwise if you're arguing based on the "vibes" you're getting from characters. the fact of the matter is that aangs feeling toward katara have been made clear from the very beginning, but you're taking that to mean that a romantic relationship between them is being hinted at. yes, aang OBVIOUSLY likes katara, but to say that 's automatically building up to kataang would be ignoring the fact that katara's feelings remain ambiguous. your interpretation of her ambiguous reaction is that she is developing a romantic interest in aang. mine is that she's not. either way, those are just personal interpretations. i'm not saying your pov is wrong, just that it's not necessarily right. neither is mine. the reason we can have completely opposing interpretations on how she feels is because, again, her feelings toward aang have remained ambiguous.
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    avrurakinninami

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    tommy2071 wrote:

    avrurakinninami wrote:
    Heraklios wrote:
    Nakkie34 wrote:
    Heraklios wrote:
    Even if Zuko and KAtara are alone that doesn't mean that they will start getting romantic. If you are alone with a friend of the Opposite sex do you always get Romantic?
    nope, for instance you inside a room with your mom that would just be wrong
    Thats why I said a FRIEND of the Opposite Sex to avoid comments like that!
    Well, they have already shared some personal memories from each other in the CoD, I think they could continue, then going further, leading to a better understanding for each others, and being always closer.

    sorry theres nothing between Zuko and Katara. No basis for a relationship. Never has been one. Your delusional thinking has serious flaws. Sharing personal memories does not lead to romance. And if Zuko goes to find his mom,he'll do that alone. You twist and turn everything "Kataang" moment to fit your needs. If she did not like the kiss, she woiuldve stopped it. SHe was into it. Look at the body language, look at the vibes. She was still wanting to kiss when he broke off it. She was surprised yes, but not liking it, well thats your opinion, albeit a lame one. WHy would she choose the guy who tried to kill him and betrayed her over the one who has always loved her. YOU only want to see what YOU want. Your blind and oblivious to whats going on because of it. I'm tired of debating this point with you. You shoot down any Kataang that comes across or twist it to Zutara. You wont acknowledge anything Kataang. Im not blind to Zutara, I just havent seen any. And to be frank, I dont think there will be any. Im not saying that to be an ass, I just dont see where they'll fit it in. Theres already going to be too much going on with not a lot of TIME!


    Delusional ? I tought you didnt want to bash. I dont shoot down anything, I think you just take that too personally, adn I'm not saying she's in love with Zuko, right now, at the moment. Gee.. (Stop debating with you (until the WAT, at least))
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    fatsomama

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    tommy2071 wrote:

    sorry theres nothing between Zuko and Katara. No basis for a relationship. Never has been one. Your delusional thinking has serious flaws. Sharing personal memories does not lead to romance. And if Zuko goes to find his mom,he'll do that alone. You twist and turn everything "Kataang" moment to fit your needs. If she did not like the kiss, she woiuldve stopped it. SHe was into it. Look at the body language, look at the vibes. She was still wanting to kiss when he broke off it. She was surprised yes, but not liking it, well thats your opinion, albeit a lame one. WHy would she choose the guy who tried to kill him and betrayed her over the one who has always loved her. YOU only want to see what YOU want. Your blind and oblivious to whats going on because of it. I'm tired of debating this point with you. You shoot down any Kataang that comes across or twist it to Zutara. You wont acknowledge anything Kataang. Im not blind to Zutara, I just havent seen any. And to be frank, I dont think there will be any. Im not saying that to be an ass, I just dont see where they'll fit it in. Theres already going to be too much going on with not a lot of TIME!
    Katara was not into that kiss. I'm not saying she'll never be, but she certainly wasn't into that one. As a side thought...MAN was i glad, Kataang makes me blow chunks lol! I'm kidding, just stirin the pot
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    tommy2071

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    tommy2071 wrote:

    LeonMorado wrote:
    tommy2071 wrote:
    And to say her first kiss isnt what she wanted, thats lame too. It seemed to me she enjoyed it.
    maybe it did seem that way to you, but that speculation is entirely based on your own context of the situation, not on what was actually going on. and as for people saying we don't have enough time for zutara to develop, that really is a weak argument. we've got 10 episodes left and a LOT can happen in half a season, even if they're not together for all 10 eps.

    I'm not trying to bash anyone, but You guys again fail to see the big picture. You dont want Aang and Katara to be together so you fail to notice whats going on. But there has been nothing in the way of a Zuko and Katara romance.Time is important, there isnt much left. Zuko is joining to help Aang, not break his heart. He has no feelings for her. and she has none for him. Yes it could develop, but there isnt time. There is too much going on. And to say Katara does not love Aang is absurd. Can you guys not see the vibes? Apparently not because its not what you want. I ship Kataang because its logical. I see the signs. I understand whats going on. When I first started watching this show, it was at the end of sezason 2. I thought Zuko and Katara would end up togther and I thought Toph and Aang were together. I have realized that was not the intent. From the beginning its always been about Aang and Katara. The creators have even said thats the DNA of the show. They are not going to throw away 2.5 years of Aang crushing and falling in love with Katara just to have her go with Zuko. There has never been anything romantic between them. If you can name one instance, I'll eat my words. The crossroads of destiny was NOT romatic either. They bonded over them losing their mom's. I know you guys will find something to twist in my logic. It never fails. All I ask is that you look at everything from Episode 1 to 51 from a different perspective.
    see the thing is i know how to separate my personal interpretations of what i see in the show from the show itself. but you're hardly in a position to accuse otherwise if you're arguing based on the "vibes" you're getting from characters. the fact of the matter is that aangs feeling toward katara have been made clear from the very beginning, but you're taking that to mean that a romantic relationship between them is being hinted at. yes, aang OBVIOUSLY likes katara, but to say that 's automatically building up to kataang would be ignoring the fact that katara's feelings remain ambiguous. your interpretation of her ambiguous reaction is that she is developing a romantic interest in aang. mine is that she's not. either way, those are just personal interpretations. i'm not saying your pov is wrong, just that it's not necessarily right. neither is mine. the reason we can have completely opposing interpretations on how she feels is because, again, her feelings toward aang have remained ambiguous.

    She has never known that Aang liked her like that. She's had a hint, but not completeley known. Now that she does it may happen. I've never had a problem debating with you. You acknowledge that there is KAtaang. Some Zutarians wont do that. Thats where that rant was aimed. I have no problem with Zutara, but I have not seen any evidence of any. To say Zuko will try to romance Katara based off his mom to one degree or another is reaching a bit. The best relationships take time which Zuko and Katara dont have. I could see a relationship beteween them if it had happened earlier in the series but it hasnt happened. We're talking about half way through season three, the last season. Aang has to learn to firebend. Aang and Katara have to come to terms with the kiss. Zuko's going to be looking for his mom and uncle. If you look at it theres really only 6 episodes to do thjat in because the last four are suppossed to be the final conflict.

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    cousin-chan

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    Finally some sense! Love your post, LeonMorado. IMHO- Too many times I come 'round here and see people claiming Kataang as canon, when in fact, the only canon ships in Avatar are Maiko, Yuokka, and Sukka. Only HALF of Kataang is truly canon. Like LeonMorado has said, Katara's feelings have been (and it is more than likely done this way on purpose) ambiguous. It all depends on the viewer's personal POV whether they think she does or not but until the writers make it clear she does, Kataang is on the same playing field as Zutara and the other ships duking it out. Haha! I love it! Avatar: The Last Soap Opera! The way we all see it, it totally should be.
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    WiseLad

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    as I continue saying

    things AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, it is more in favor of Kataang in probabilities

    what is happening is that people tend to go more for the "underdog" and people tend to seek and "find" flaws in the top theory, so the theory that is most apt to be criticized or undermined by the smallest thing is Kataang, and the ones against Zutara has only to say "probabilities are in our favor" and don't have to waste too much time finding flaws in Zutara itself. They only have to laugh at the weak supporting base of the theories of Zutara, or laugh at the attacks on the strong base of Kataang.

    I notice that most supporters of zutara tend to say that anything used as a support base of kataang is non-existent, "is read completely wrong" or stuff like that, but get mad if their theory made of less strong base is attacked, while Kataang supporters tend to simply say, "there is a small chance zutara could happen according to your evidence, but there are other evidences that are equal or stronger in favor of Kataang" or "there are more things in favor of Kataang than of Zutara"
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    cousin-chan wrote:
    Finally some sense! Love your post, LeonMorado. IMHO- Too many times I come 'round here and see people claiming Kataang as canon, when in fact, the only canon ships in Avatar are Maiko, Yuokka, and Sukka. Only HALF of Kataang is truly canon. Like LeonMorado has said, Katara's feelings have been (and it is more than likely done this way on purpose) ambiguous. It all depends on the viewer's personal POV whether they think she does or not but until the writers make it clear she does, Kataang is on the same playing field as Zutara and the other ships duking it out. Haha! I love it! Avatar: The Last Soap Opera! The way we all see it, it totally should be.


    if Maiko(maizu according to the creators)is canon and there is not definitive sinking of it ............

    why are you saying zutara is in the same ground as kataang?

    because of the maiko factor, it automatically puts kataang in a stronger ground than zutara

    just like sukka automatically makes a tokka ship less likely, at least until it is found out that suki died or found someone else.
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    I didn't mean they have equal potential - although this, too, can be easily interpreted differently by many - just that they are in the same "not canon, only fanon" playing ground. Or in other words, they both are NOT canon. I will not debate which ship has more possibility or who has stronger ground, because I'm sick of doing it. Honestly, I'm just trying to point that little fact out.
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    Vantox

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    What if, just to spite us, the writers don't bring any relationships to light and Aang gives her up and finally unlocks his 7th chakra hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
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    Vantox wrote:
    What if, just to spite us, the writers don't bring any relationships to light and Aang gives her up and finally unlocks his 7th chakra hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
    But it is locked forever... Or so we think...
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    cousin-chan

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    Ha ha, not giving us a ship in the end? Sounds plausible, and it'd be the only ending that wouldn't kill, like, half the Avatar fan base. But then again, the shipping wars would continue forever.
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    cousin-chan wrote:
    Ha ha, not giving us a ship in the end? Sounds plausible, and it'd be the only ending that wouldn't kill, like, half the Avatar fan base. But then again, the shipping wars would continue forever.
    It is foolish to stop watching this show just because your ship didn't happen.
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    I speak of endgame. Who would be watching the show if it had already ended? :\
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    Atu_1

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    I won't say Zutara has absolutely no chance, because it might but its just highly unlikely. Zuko might flash back to the time he said that being alone is not always the best path, so he might have Katara go along with him to find his mother. And I've been trying to figure out if Aang and Katara have babies., will they really be airbenders because Katara's a waterbender. There still won't be any pure airbenders left. But Kataang is still as of now more likely to happen. Or, Katara will shoot Aang down to make us think it won't happen, so that it's no longer so obvious. Or Aang will have another daydream incident except with Zutara, and fool us into thinking its "real" at first.
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    cousin-chan wrote:
    I speak of endgame. Who would be watching the show if it had already ended? :\
    An avageek would. stop looking at meeee!!!
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    LeonMorado

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    WiseLad wrote:
    I notice that most supporters of zutara tend to say that anything used as a support base of kataang is non-existent, "is read completely wrong" or stuff like that, but get mad if their theory made of less strong base is attacked, while Kataang supporters tend to simply say, "there is a small chance zutara could happen according to your evidence, but there are other evidences that are equal or stronger in favor of Kataang" or "there are more things in favor of Kataang than of Zutara"
    i wish things were like that, butin my experience there are quite a few kataangers who aren't nearly that reasonable. or that polite, for that matter. the ones i tend to notice are the ones claiming kataang as canon or taking shots at zutara and, more often, zutarians.
    but of course, people tend to notice their irrational opponents more than they notice their irrational supporters.
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    LeonMorado wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    I notice that most supporters of zutara tend to say that anything used as a support base of kataang is non-existent, "is read completely wrong" or stuff like that, but get mad if their theory made of less strong base is attacked, while Kataang supporters tend to simply say, "there is a small chance zutara could happen according to your evidence, but there are other evidences that are equal or stronger in favor of Kataang" or "there are more things in favor of Kataang than of Zutara"
    i wish things were like that, butin my experience there are quite a few kataangers who aren't nearly that reasonable. or that polite, for that matter. the ones i tend to notice are the ones claiming kataang as canon or taking shots at zutara and, more often, zutarians.
    but of course, people tend to notice their irrational opponents more than they notice their irrational supporters.
    I don't insult Zutarians (though I'm likely make a condescending sarcastic remark abut a sentence or two) But I still think Spooty on Deviantart's comics are funny. Also, I noticed that forum posters get along more often outside shipping threads.
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    LeonMorado

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    Atu_1 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    I notice that most supporters of zutara tend to say that anything used as a support base of kataang is non-existent, "is read completely wrong" or stuff like that, but get mad if their theory made of less strong base is attacked, while Kataang supporters tend to simply say, "there is a small chance zutara could happen according to your evidence, but there are other evidences that are equal or stronger in favor of Kataang" or "there are more things in favor of Kataang than of Zutara"
    i wish things were like that, butin my experience there are quite a few kataangers who aren't nearly that reasonable. or that polite, for that matter. the ones i tend to notice are the ones claiming kataang as canon or taking shots at zutara and, more often, zutarians.
    but of course, people tend to notice their irrational opponents more than they notice their irrational supporters.
    I don't insult Zutarians (though I'm likely make a condescending sarcastic remark abut a sentence or two) But I still think Spooty on Deviantart's comics are funny. Also, I noticed that forum posters get along more often outside shipping threads.
    true. i think these forums are where we get all that shipping agression out.
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    Atu_1

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    LeonMorado wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    LeonMorado wrote:
    WiseLad wrote:
    I notice that most supporters of zutara tend to say that anything used as a support base of kataang is non-existent, "is read completely wrong" or stuff like that, but get mad if their theory made of less strong base is attacked, while Kataang supporters tend to simply say, "there is a small chance zutara could happen according to your evidence, but there are other evidences that are equal or stronger in favor of Kataang" or "there are more things in favor of Kataang than of Zutara"
    i wish things were like that, butin my experience there are quite a few kataangers who aren't nearly that reasonable. or that polite, for that matter. the ones i tend to notice are the ones claiming kataang as canon or taking shots at zutara and, more often, zutarians.
    but of course, people tend to notice their irrational opponents more than they notice their irrational supporters.
    I don't insult Zutarians (though I'm likely make a condescending sarcastic remark abut a sentence or two) But I still think Spooty on Deviantart's comics are funny. Also, I noticed that forum posters get along more often outside shipping threads.
    true. i think these forums are where we get all that shipping agression out.
    Agree and 2000th post FTW!
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