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Does Katara love Aang? The Ending

After seeing the new trailer, wich ship ( you think ) will happen?

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    WiseLad

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    tommy2071 wrote:

    Heres a few things that is against Zutara

    1 Zuko is not joining them because of Katara, he's there to help Aang

    2 He has no feelings for Katara

    3 He doesnt know her name

    4 Katara would not join Zuko to help him find his mom Her main prioity is to help Aang she is his waterbending teacher,If she were to somehow go, the others would go too I dont see Sokka and aang letting her go by herself with Zuko

    5 There isnt much time left

    6 Zuko will also be looking for Iroh

    7 There is also the Mai factor, no matter how you think about it, he has feelings for Mai you cant diss that

    8 The trust issue, Katara and Sokka arnet just going to trust him right off the bat

    9 Aang and Katara have to work out what is between them. Whether they get together or not I just dont see Katara jumping into Zuko's arms the minute he joins the group

    10 Zuko is going to be teaching Aang how to firebend

    I also think that Zuko is going to help Aang with Katara. He's going to realize that there is something going on between them.



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    1337Bloodbender wrote:
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    nintendo56 wrote:
    wow! alot of pages. its giving me a headache just trying to read these comments.
    it took me only 3 whole days
    You actually looked through all that?
    Wow.
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Miss_Katara wrote:
    nintendo56 wrote:
    wow! alot of pages. its giving me a headache just trying to read these comments.
    it took me only 3 whole days
    You actually looked through all that?
    Wow.
    The only thread I would ever completely look through is the adult/teen thread.
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    Atu_1

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    WiseLad wrote:
    tommy2071 wrote:

    Heres a few things that is against Zutara

    1 Zuko is not joining them because of Katara, he's there to help Aang

    2 He has no feelings for Katara

    3 He doesnt know her name

    4 Katara would not join Zuko to help him find his mom Her main prioity is to help Aang she is his waterbending teacher,If she were to somehow go, the others would go too I dont see Sokka and aang letting her go by herself with Zuko

    5 There isnt much time left

    6 Zuko will also be looking for Iroh

    7 There is also the Mai factor, no matter how you think about it, he has feelings for Mai you cant diss that

    8 The trust issue, Katara and Sokka arnet just going to trust him right off the bat

    9 Aang and Katara have to work out what is between them. Whether they get together or not I just dont see Katara jumping into Zuko's arms the minute he joins the group

    10 Zuko is going to be teaching Aang how to firebend

    I also think that Zuko is going to help Aang with Katara. He's going to realize that there is something going on between them.



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    Agree.
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    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Miss_Katara wrote:
    nintendo56 wrote:
    wow! alot of pages. its giving me a headache just trying to read these comments.
    it took me only 3 whole days
    You actually looked through all that?
    Wow.
    The only thread I would ever completely look through is the adult/teen thread.
    Ya nasty!
    LOL, me too.
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Miss_Katara wrote:
    nintendo56 wrote:
    wow! alot of pages. its giving me a headache just trying to read these comments.
    it took me only 3 whole days
    You actually looked through all that?
    Wow.
    The only thread I would ever completely look through is the adult/teen thread.
    Ya nasty! LOL, me too.
    yes!!! Finally read it all. my brain hurts.
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    nintendo56 wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Miss_Katara wrote:
    nintendo56 wrote:
    wow! alot of pages. its giving me a headache just trying to read these comments.
    it took me only 3 whole days
    You actually looked through all that?
    Wow.
    The only thread I would ever completely look through is the adult/teen thread.
    Ya nasty! LOL, me too.
    yes!!! Finally read it all. my brain hurts.

    Dang, when do you guys find the time to do all of that? I'm too lazy to even find posts people reply to me on when there are a lot new pages. LOL!

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    According to Tommy, here is the list to do for Zuko.

    -1- Searching for Iroh

    -2- Searching for Ursa

    -3- Teaching Aang

    ----- How Katara could fall in love of Zuko.

    -1- They know already each others ( CoD )

    -2- Zuko have already heard their names, except for Toph, Haru, The Duke and Momo.

    -3- In order to teach Aang, he will have to gain their trust back, also from Katara.

    -4- He will have to search for his mother. Its the main point in common with Katara. If she wants to help him, she will.

    -5- Aang doesnt need a waterbender master anymore, in fact he's better than Katara, except for the bloodbending.

    -6- Zuko doesnt need to search for his uncle, He already know that he escape the prison. So, no needs to be worried about him.

    -7- If Zuko can teach Aang to firebending and defeat the avatar, They will help him to find his mother.

    -8- Evoke the time as a main argument, cant be taked seriously.

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    tommy2071

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    avrurakinninami wrote:

    According to Tommy, here is the list to do for Zuko.

    -1- Searching for Iroh

    -2- Searching for Ursa

    -3- Teaching Aang

    ----- How Katara could fall in love of Zuko.

    -1- They know already each others ( CoD )

    -2- Zuko have already heard their names, except for Toph, Haru, The Duke and Momo.

    -3- In order to teach Aang, he will have to gain their trust back, also from Katara.

    -4- He will have to search for his mother. Its the main point in common with Katara. If she wants to help him, she will.

    -5- Aang doesnt need a waterbender master anymore, in fact he's better than Katara, except for the bloodbending.

    -6- Zuko doesnt need to search for his uncle, He already know that he escape the prison. So, no needs to be worried about him.

    -7- If Zuko can teach Aang to firebending and defeat the avatar, They will help him to find his mother.

    -8- Evoke the time as a main argument, cant be taked seriously.

    Zuko will be looking for his uncle

    Time is of the essence, Sozins comet is coming soon, more than likely in a few weeks so that makes little time for anything

    Katara wont just up and go with Zuko. If it were to happen, it would take time, which is something they dont have As for what Zuko and Katara have in common, its not enough to justify her leaving the gaang alone remember the main objective is to defeat the firelord something that she'll stick with Aang.

    Zuko is joining because of Aang not to take Katara away fromhim which is what part of the Zutarian group has said. He still loves Mai, which is something no one can deny

    I dont remember Zuko mentioning Katara's name. I know Aang said it once around him but that does not mean he'll remember it. He had other things on his mind.

    Trust takes time, which, again, is something they dont have a lot of. I suspect he'll have to prove himself, do a bit of groveling, and trying to sweep Katara off her feet would not help his chances of trust with Aang.

    I just dont see a romance blossoming between Zuko and Katara because of one thing, TIME. Its the one precious thing they dont have.

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    Nakkie34

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    I dont think its Impossible for zutara to happen in the next couple of episodes.

    i just think its impausible, I MEAN come on!

    It would require to put a bullet straight trough Kataang, the ship they have been building on from the first friggin episode

    And it would require for zuko to get his pimp on like ASAP and i just don??t see that happenin either ....... pimp zuko ......

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    http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs22/f/2007/342/1/f/NYAF_Avatar_panel_fake_board_4_by_rufftoon.jpg

    i just miss Momos mind about Zuko...
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    Nakkie34 wrote:

    I dont think its Impossible for zutara to happen in the next couple of episodes.

    i just think its impausible, I MEAN come on!

    It would require to put a bullet straight trough Kataang, the ship they have been building on from the first friggin episode

    And it would require for zuko to get his pimp on like ASAP and i just don??t see that happenin either ....... pimp zuko ......

    There is the little show called Smalleville. The whole show is the pimpage of the relationship between Lana Lang and Clark Kent. It leads some to believe that their love is timeless and will last forever, but any Superman fan knows who is true love is. She was introduced in Season 4 of Smallville. Ironically, she is a lot like Toph and actually Katara is a lot like Lana. Her name is Lois Lane. The main romance in that show is built upon a house of cards.

    Zuko doesn't need to be a pimp to win Katara. He can just be himself. I feel that the real Zuko is a lot like the image she made in her mind about Jet.

    I think she loves Aang, just not in a romantic way. If she did, I am sure she would have revealed it so when he pretty much died, or at least realized it. A situation between the two can't get more epic than that. Yet, they still returned to their old relationship. Katara's reaction to that kiss also contradicts. The love that should have woke up when Aang died should have poured out than, if it was freaking there. Of course, the writers could just be dragging Kataang out to the last Kaplank. If so, their Soap Opera antics really hurt this pairing. After Aang awoke, in COD, there should have been a tearful, I love you Aang confession. If Kataang is in the cards, the writers should have made up for their blunder, by having Katara confess after the kiss in DOBS. Instead, she looked like her first kiss was less than what she wanted. To totally ignore these epics situations, to have Katara decide she loves Aang in a smelly old temple, makes the romance about as epic as Maiko. This will lead me to believe that, the creators kick all types of a$$ in every genre of writing except in the romance area.

    Edited on 12/10/2007 11:53pm
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    RoryLane wrote:
    Nakkie34 wrote:

    I dont think its Impossible for zutara to happen in the next couple of episodes.

    i just think its impausible, I MEAN come on!

    It would require to put a bullet straight trough Kataang, the ship they have been building on from the first friggin episode

    And it would require for zuko to get his pimp on like ASAP and i just don??t see that happenin either ....... pimp zuko ......

    There is the little show called Smalleville. The whole show is the pimpage of the relationship between Lana Lang and Clark Kent. It leads some to believe that their love is timeless and will last forever, but any Superman fan knows who is true love is. She was introduced in Season 4 of Smallville. Ironically, she is a lot like Toph and actually Katara is a lot like Lana. Her name is Lois Lane. The main romance in that show is built upon a house of cards.

    Zuko doesn't need to be a pimp to win Katara. He can just be himself. I feel that the real Zuko is a lot like the image she made in her mind about Jet.

    I think she loves Aang, just not in a romantic way. If she did, I am sure she would have revealed it so when he pretty much died, or at least realized it. A situation between the two can't get more epic than that. Yet, they still returned to their old relationship. Katara's reaction to that kiss also contradicts. The love that should have woke up when Aang died should have poured out than, if it was freaking there. Of course, the writers could just be dragging Kataang out to the last Kaplank. If so, their Soap Opera antics really hurt this pairing. After Aang awoke, in COD, there should have been a tearful, I love you Aang confession. If Kataang is in the cards, the writers should have made up for their blunder, by having Katara confess after the kiss in DOBS. Instead, she looked like her first kiss was less than what she wanted. To totally ignore these epics situations, to have Katara decide she loves Aang in a smelly old temple, makes the romance about as epic as Maiko. This will lead me to believe that, the creators kick all types of a$$ in every genre of writing except in the romance area.

    The problem with this logic is that unlike Avatar, the creators already knew the main two charcters werent supposed to be together. And to say Katara is like Lana is just rediculous. Katara is more Lois than anything. Anyway You cant compare Avatar with Smallville just blike you cant compare it with Kim Possible or Harry Potter. There wasnt time for a confession as a battle was going on. I think that was a little more important. Just because they havent said it yet, does not mean they dont feel it. The best love relationships take time. And to say her first kiss isnt what she wanted, thats lame too. It seemed to me she enjoyed it.

    Edited on 12/11/2007 12:54am
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    WiseLad

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    do you think it will look Good for Zuko to 1- see that Aang loves Katara

    2- offer to teach him Firebending

    3- to forget about Mai? (There was no conclusive evidence that he dumped her, all we know for SURE is that he told her he had to go, and most probably told her that he left because he decided to help the Avatar )

    and in a few weeks time hurt Aang deeply inside his heart, hurt Mai by dumping her(which is different than leaving her as he had to do a task) by going for a romantic relantionship with Katara?

    you know why Katara has not opened herself completely yet? even though all the things that happened to Aang? he almost died, got her jealous in the headband, he kissed her and she responded in DOBS( whether she responded completely by choice or by Instinct is up to debate, but she responded)

    the reason is BECAUSE..........

    the writers want to keep the viewers wondering if she will choose Zuko or Aang, even if the possibilities "as of right now" are in favor of Aang, and even though Zuko already has a girlfriend. so they keep the possibilities open for either side.
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    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Atu_1 wrote:
    1337Bloodbender wrote:
    Miss_Katara wrote:
    nintendo56 wrote:
    wow! alot of pages. its giving me a headache just trying to read these comments.
    it took me only 3 whole days
    You actually looked through all that?
    Wow.
    The only thread I would ever completely look through is the adult/teen thread.

    Yes, I read it all, you see my study only takes a few hours a day, the rest is divided in a few thing and one of them is reading these boards. It took me longer then I expected actually, but that's because English isn't my native language. And this isn;t the only thread that i've read fully..

    Call me sick, addicted or whatever but it was fun reading.

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    JasmineTea88

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    iv got this feeling that Zuko will grow to have feelings for Katara(because she is motherly, caring and will possible remind him of Ursa) but i don't think Katara will like him back in that way (no offence 2 Zutara shippers). I think katara will just be nice to him because he may (or may not) be a part of the Gaang in the future and help Aang.
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    tommy2071 wrote:
    RoryLane wrote:
    Nakkie34 wrote:

    I dont think its Impossible for zutara to happen in the next couple of episodes.

    i just think its impausible, I MEAN come on!

    It would require to put a bullet straight trough Kataang, the ship they have been building on from the first friggin episode

    And it would require for zuko to get his pimp on like ASAP and i just don??t see that happenin either ....... pimp zuko ......

    There is the little show called Smalleville. The whole show is the pimpage of the relationship between Lana Lang and Clark Kent. It leads some to believe that their love is timeless and will last forever, but any Superman fan knows who is true love is. She was introduced in Season 4 of Smallville. Ironically, she is a lot like Toph and actually Katara is a lot like Lana. Her name is Lois Lane. The main romance in that show is built upon a house of cards.

    Zuko doesn't need to be a pimp to win Katara. He can just be himself. I feel that the real Zuko is a lot like the image she made in her mind about Jet.

    I think she loves Aang, just not in a romantic way. If she did, I am sure she would have revealed it so when he pretty much died, or at least realized it. A situation between the two can't get more epic than that. Yet, they still returned to their old relationship. Katara's reaction to that kiss also contradicts. The love that should have woke up when Aang died should have poured out than, if it was freaking there. Of course, the writers could just be dragging Kataang out to the last Kaplank. If so, their Soap Opera antics really hurt this pairing. After Aang awoke, in COD, there should have been a tearful, I love you Aang confession. If Kataang is in the cards, the writers should have made up for their blunder, by having Katara confess after the kiss in DOBS. Instead, she looked like her first kiss was less than what she wanted. To totally ignore these epics situations, to have Katara decide she loves Aang in a smelly old temple, makes the romance about as epic as Maiko. This will lead me to believe that, the creators kick all types of a$$ in every genre of writing except in the romance area.

    The problem with this logic is that unlike Avatar, the creators already knew the main two charcters werent supposed to be together. And to say Katara is like Lana is just rediculous. Katara is more Lois than anything. Anyway You cant compare Avatar with Smallville just blike you cant compare it with Kim Possible or Harry Potter. There wasnt time for a confession as a battle was going on. I think that was a little more important. Just because they havent said it yet, does not mean they dont feel it. The best love relationships take time. And to say her first kiss isnt what she wanted, thats lame too. It seemed to me she enjoyed it.

    I am sorry, but Katara is nothing like Lois Lane. Maybe the one from the new movie (worst Lois ever), but the one from Smallville started out Tophish. She gave Clark in embrassing nicknames, punched him almost on a daily basis, and acted like the tomboy she is. Lana was sweetcakes for a number of seasons.

    The reason I used Smallville is because Nakkie34 said that the writers won't put a bullet through the romance that they had been building from the start. That show is a prime example that writers can and will do, just that.

    It is lame in your opinion. I see it as fact. Katara should've been shown to enjoy her first kiss, without a shadow of a doubt in anyone's mind. Every kiss before it and probably after it will be more passionate.

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    LeonMorado

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    tommy2071 wrote:
    And to say her first kiss isnt what she wanted, thats lame too. It seemed to me she enjoyed it.
    maybe it did seem that way to you, but that speculation is entirely based on your own context of the situation, not on what was actually going on.

    and as for people saying we don't have enough time for zutara to develop, that really is a weak argument. we've got 10 episodes left and a LOT can happen in half a season, even if they're not together for all 10 eps.
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    avrurakinninami

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    JasmineTea88 wrote:
    iv got this feeling that Zuko will grow to have feelings for Katara(because she is motherly, caring and will possible remind him of Ursa) but i don't think Katara will like him back in that way (no offence 2 Zutara shippers). I think katara will just be nice to him because he may (or may not) be a part of the Gaang in the future and help Aang.


    Well, I think otherwise, I dont Katara loves Aang, but only motherly. And time is not an excuse to deny Zutara, I think they can make that in 3 episodes. About Mai, I think she will betray him, as we can see in the comic con panel, where Zuko and Mai are in a room. She will probably give that letter to Azula.
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    WiseLad

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    avrurakinninami wrote:
    JasmineTea88 wrote:
    iv got this feeling that Zuko will grow to have feelings for Katara(because she is motherly, caring and will possible remind him of Ursa) but i don't think Katara will like him back in that way (no offence 2 Zutara shippers). I think katara will just be nice to him because he may (or may not) be a part of the Gaang in the future and help Aang.


    Well, I think otherwise, I dont Katara loves Aang, but only motherly. And time is not an excuse to deny Zutara, I think they can make that in 3 episodes. About Mai, I think she will betray him, as we can see in the comic con panel, where Zuko and Mai are in a room. She will probably give that letter to Azula.


    LOL what would be the big deal if Mai gave the letter to Azula? And of course as a die hard Zutara supporter, you will have to think that she would betray him, without giving any room at all that Mai could end up surprising many.

    if Mai gave the letter to Azula? this would probably be the scene

    Mai: Azula, here is the letter Zuko gave me

    Azula reads letter and it says basically

    "I reached the conclusion that I was doing the wrong thing, and decided that the fire nation is in the wrong by forcing themselves unto other nations, now they hate us, they don't see us as friends but as oppressors. I wish you could have come with me, but I know you would have had a hard time deciding if I was wrong or right, and I didn't have the time to wait. I am going to join the Avatar and help him against my father. I will miss you Mai, and I love you. Zuko"

    Azula: HA HA HA JHA , Dad already told me about that. He was mad at me about hiding the fact that the Avatar still lives, but it was worth it, as now that traitor of Zuzu is sentenced to die. And I would do it with pleasure HA HA HA HA
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