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    MarryLarry

    [281]Apr 26, 2008
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    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Feel free to quote me, it makes me feel important.

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    raienbrasa

    [282]Apr 26, 2008
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    MarryLarry wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Feel free to quote me, it makes me feel important.

    Quoted.
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    MarryLarry

    [283]Apr 26, 2008
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    raienbrasa wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Feel free to quote me, it makes me feel important.

    Quoted.

    I award your quotiness with this video of an epic battle far greater than anything seen on this show so far.

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    misterham

    [284]Apr 26, 2008
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    MarryLarry wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Feel free to quote me, it makes me feel important.


    maybe he didn't want to get too far out from behind zuko because azula could have done some quick tricky counter or something? she wasn't off-balance, so she could have still done something. this scene confused me as well :/
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    raienbrasa

    [285]Apr 26, 2008
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    misterham wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Feel free to quote me, it makes me feel important.


    maybe he didn't want to get too far out from behind zuko because azula could have done some quick tricky counter or something? she wasn't off-balance, so she could have still done something. this scene confused me as well :/
    Yeah, definitely don't want to over-commit in a situation like that.
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    GLM-2P

    [286]Apr 26, 2008
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    The big scene was the climax of betrayal and is the foundation of why Azula losing his mind in the trailer ...

    It is a pity! Azula is an excellent villain with a mind cold

    This episode made me absolutely respect to Maiko and his moral strength and emotional ...

    Mai! that girl also won my respect and I left impressed

    It's incredible how love can transform the characters and change the perception of her heart

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    SapphireStones

    [287]Apr 26, 2008
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    I was never a fan of Maiko but I gained some serious respect for Mai in this. I mean I had nothing against her before, but DUDE.

    She was pretty (and still is) effin awesome
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    SaccharineWrath

    [288]Apr 26, 2008
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    So, I watched BR1 and BR2. You may not care, but here are my thoughts. I warn you. This is long. I thought about making it a blog, but I don't want to spoil it for people who may come across my blog and haven't seen the episodes yet.

    1) Suki!!! I missed that girl so much. I didn't even realize it until I saw her! She really is just a plain awesome character. The way she scaled the tower to the gondola was just bada$$!!! All little girls should want to aspire to be as cool as she is!! I mean, talk about girl power! Sokka picked a good woman!! Go Suki! I am a Suki fan girl 4Life!

    2) That being said, yay George!

    3) Sokka/Zuko interaction was just wonderful. They are dorks seperately, and then its like dorks to the second power when they are together. I love it!

    4) I am so proud of Zuko! He's actually becoming one of the gaang. I love that he couldn't get Iroh's tea joke right. I love the bad advice about the clouds and silver linings. He is so delightfully dorky.

    5) Mai!! I am so proud of that girl! I am proud of her and Ty Lee. But being Mai, she was her expressionless self to the bitter end. Though I am so proud of her for standing up to Azula! I am even more impressed by Ty Lee. She was so idiotically obedient. For her to do that!! It just blew my mind!

    6) Maiko... Being a Zutarian... I was fearful of all the rumors. But now that I've seen the episodes. I am at ease. The maiko was handled well. I think we just received closure to this relationship once and for all. I mean, it was owed to the audience, what with the cryptic letter and everything. I am in no fear of Maiko occuring in the end. I think that Zuko and Mai said what they needed to say to one another, and have moved on to their seperate destinies. I really got a sense of this chapter of the story coming to a close.

    7) That being said... please, please, please don't let Mai and Ty Lee die! They finally redeemed themselves, and have shown that they can be above Azula's influence! I hope that they don't die off screen (a la Jet). I think Zuko may save them, but that it won't lead to a rekindling of the flames. The flames were sparked, rekindled, burned, and are now up in smoke.

    8 ) Mai: "You miscalculated." I believe that these two words will be the begining of Azula's mental break down! Coming from someone she just knew would never, ever, ever betray her. That's got to be a thorn in her side!

    I know this was long, the majority of you will ignore this. But whatever!! Yay!! I heart Suki!!!!

    Edited on 04/26/2008 8:07pm
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    zukofangirl2006

    [289]Apr 26, 2008
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    I call your attention to this pic, as I don't think Stuff You Don't Normally See likes spoilers.

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    AND random Zuko sexyness/adorkableness.

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    You know, there's this nerdy kid from school who likes me and has a smile just like in the last pic. Maybe I'll consider him now. Is it imorral to date someone because they have Zuko's smile?

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    daveshanFromGMU

    [290]Apr 26, 2008
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    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    You know, there's this nerdy kid from school who likes me and has a smile just like in the last pic. Maybe I'll consider him now. Is it imorral to date someone because they have Zuko's smile?

    No, it might be immoral. But imorral, it certainly is not.

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    suss2it

    [291]Apr 26, 2008
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    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Super awesome paragraph of total win. But yea I don't know why Sokka just didn't attempt to stab her, maybe he was afraid she would burn his hair off.

    I'm pretty sure Suki was bitten by some mutated spider during her time in prison with her wall crawling ability. Speaking of Suki was anyone else thinking that she would be very depressed and more like Mai from what Azula said in DOBS?

    SaccharineWrath wrote:

    So, I watched BR1 and BR2. You may not care, but here are my thoughts. I warn you. This is long. I thought about making it a blog, but I don't want to spoil it for people who may come across my blog and haven't seen the episodes yet.

    1) Suki!!! I missed that girl so much. I didn't even realize it until I saw her! She really is just a plain awesome character. The way she scaled the tower to the gondola was just bada$$!!! All little girls should want to aspire to be as cool as she is!! I mean, talk about girl power! Sokka picked a good woman!! Go Suki! I am a Suki fan girl 4Life!

    2) That being said, yay George!

    3) Sokka/Zuko interaction was just wonderful. They are dorks seperately, and then its like dorks to the second power when they are together. I love it!

    4) I am so proud of Zuko! He's actually becoming one of the gaang. I love that he couldn't get Iroh's tea joke right. I love the bad advice about the clouds and silver linings. He is so delightfully dorky.

    5) Mai!! I am so proud of that girl! I am proud of her and Ty Lee. But being Mai, she was her expressionless self to the bitter end. Though I am so proud of her for standing up to Azula! I am even more impressed by Ty Lee. She was so idiotically obedient. For her to do that!! It just blew my mind!

    6) Maiko... Being a Zutarian... I was fearful of all the rumors. But now that I've seen the episodes. I am at ease. The maiko was handled well. I think we just received closure to this relationship once and for all. I mean, it was owed to the audience, what with the cryptic letter and everything. I am in no fear of Maiko occuring in the end. I think that Zuko and Mai said what they needed to say to one another, and have moved on to their seperate destinies. I really got a sense of this chapter of the story coming to a close.

    7) That being said... please, please, please don't let Mai and Ty Lee die! They finally redeemed themselves, and have shown that they can be above Azula's influence! I hope that they don't die off screen (a la Jet). I think Zuko may save them, but that it won't lead to a rekindling of the flames. The flames were sparked, rekindled, burned, and are now up in smoke.

    8 ) Mai: "You miscalculated." I believe that these two words will be the begining of Azula's mental break down! Coming from someone she just knew would never, ever, ever betray her. That's got to be a thorn in her side!

    I know this was long, the majority of you will ignore this. But whatever!! Yay!! I heart Suki!!!!

    I read it and yea I agree with it. This episode has basically turned me into a shipper, Maiko & George FTW!
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    zukofangirl2006

    [292]Apr 26, 2008
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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    You know, there's this nerdy kid from school who likes me and has a smile just like in the last pic. Maybe I'll consider him now. Is it imorral to date someone because they have Zuko's smile?

    No, it might be immoral. But imorral, it certainly is not.

    You just killed my fangirling streak. Forget about spelling. That was mean.

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    SaccharineWrath

    [293]Apr 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Super awesome paragraph of total win. But yea I don't know why Sokka just didn't attempt to stab her, maybe he was afraid she would burn his hair off. I'm pretty sure Suki was bitten by some mutated spider during her time in prison with her wall crawling ability. Speaking of Suki was anyone else thinking that she would be very depressed and more like Mai from what Azula said in DOBS?
    SaccharineWrath wrote:

    So, I watched BR1 and BR2. You may not care, but here are my thoughts. I warn you. This is long. I thought about making it a blog, but I don't want to spoil it for people who may come across my blog and haven't seen the episodes yet.

    1) Suki!!! I missed that girl so much. I didn't even realize it until I saw her! She really is just a plain awesome character. The way she scaled the tower to the gondola was just bada$$!!! All little girls should want to aspire to be as cool as she is!! I mean, talk about girl power! Sokka picked a good woman!! Go Suki! I am a Suki fan girl 4Life!

    2) That being said, yay George!

    3) Sokka/Zuko interaction was just wonderful. They are dorks seperately, and then its like dorks to the second power when they are together. I love it!

    4) I am so proud of Zuko! He's actually becoming one of the gaang. I love that he couldn't get Iroh's tea joke right. I love the bad advice about the clouds and silver linings. He is so delightfully dorky.

    5) Mai!! I am so proud of that girl! I am proud of her and Ty Lee. But being Mai, she was her expressionless self to the bitter end. Though I am so proud of her for standing up to Azula! I am even more impressed by Ty Lee. She was so idiotically obedient. For her to do that!! It just blew my mind!

    6) Maiko... Being a Zutarian... I was fearful of all the rumors. But now that I've seen the episodes. I am at ease. The maiko was handled well. I think we just received closure to this relationship once and for all. I mean, it was owed to the audience, what with the cryptic letter and everything. I am in no fear of Maiko occuring in the end. I think that Zuko and Mai said what they needed to say to one another, and have moved on to their seperate destinies. I really got a sense of this chapter of the story coming to a close.

    7) That being said... please, please, please don't let Mai and Ty Lee die! They finally redeemed themselves, and have shown that they can be above Azula's influence! I hope that they don't die off screen (a la Jet). I think Zuko may save them, but that it won't lead to a rekindling of the flames. The flames were sparked, rekindled, burned, and are now up in smoke.

    8 ) Mai: "You miscalculated." I believe that these two words will be the begining of Azula's mental break down! Coming from someone she just knew would never, ever, ever betray her. That's got to be a thorn in her side!

    I know this was long, the majority of you will ignore this. But whatever!! Yay!! I heart Suki!!!!

    I read it and yea I agree with it. This episode has basically turned me into a shipper, Maiko & George FTW!

    Don't misunderstand me. I am all about ZUTARA. ZUTARA FTW!! GEORGE FTW!!! But I can respect Maiko a little now. I just genuinely believe its over for Zuko and Mai.

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    suss2it

    [294]Apr 26, 2008
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    SaccharineWrath wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    My major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops. Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

    Super awesome paragraph of total win. But yea I don't know why Sokka just didn't attempt to stab her, maybe he was afraid she would burn his hair off. I'm pretty sure Suki was bitten by some mutated spider during her time in prison with her wall crawling ability. Speaking of Suki was anyone else thinking that she would be very depressed and more like Mai from what Azula said in DOBS?
    SaccharineWrath wrote:

    So, I watched BR1 and BR2. You may not care, but here are my thoughts. I warn you. This is long. I thought about making it a blog, but I don't want to spoil it for people who may come across my blog and haven't seen the episodes yet.

    1) Suki!!! I missed that girl so much. I didn't even realize it until I saw her! She really is just a plain awesome character. The way she scaled the tower to the gondola was just bada$$!!! All little girls should want to aspire to be as cool as she is!! I mean, talk about girl power! Sokka picked a good woman!! Go Suki! I am a Suki fan girl 4Life!

    2) That being said, yay George!

    3) Sokka/Zuko interaction was just wonderful. They are dorks seperately, and then its like dorks to the second power when they are together. I love it!

    4) I am so proud of Zuko! He's actually becoming one of the gaang. I love that he couldn't get Iroh's tea joke right. I love the bad advice about the clouds and silver linings. He is so delightfully dorky.

    5) Mai!! I am so proud of that girl! I am proud of her and Ty Lee. But being Mai, she was her expressionless self to the bitter end. Though I am so proud of her for standing up to Azula! I am even more impressed by Ty Lee. She was so idiotically obedient. For her to do that!! It just blew my mind!

    6) Maiko... Being a Zutarian... I was fearful of all the rumors. But now that I've seen the episodes. I am at ease. The maiko was handled well. I think we just received closure to this relationship once and for all. I mean, it was owed to the audience, what with the cryptic letter and everything. I am in no fear of Maiko occuring in the end. I think that Zuko and Mai said what they needed to say to one another, and have moved on to their seperate destinies. I really got a sense of this chapter of the story coming to a close.

    7) That being said... please, please, please don't let Mai and Ty Lee die! They finally redeemed themselves, and have shown that they can be above Azula's influence! I hope that they don't die off screen (a la Jet). I think Zuko may save them, but that it won't lead to a rekindling of the flames. The flames were sparked, rekindled, burned, and are now up in smoke.

    8 ) Mai: "You miscalculated." I believe that these two words will be the begining of Azula's mental break down! Coming from someone she just knew would never, ever, ever betray her. That's got to be a thorn in her side!

    I know this was long, the majority of you will ignore this. But whatever!! Yay!! I heart Suki!!!!

    I read it and yea I agree with it. This episode has basically turned me into a shipper, Maiko & George FTW!

    Don't misunderstand me. I am all about ZUTARA. ZUTARA FTW!! GEORGE FTW!!! But I can respect Maiko a little now. I just genuinely believe its over for Zuko and Mai.

    I don't see how you could possibly think that seeing what Mai sacrificed for Zuko without even knowing it all, while Katara has been somewhat unpleasant towards him. I have nothing against Zutara but I think it's been effectively killed probably from CoD to DOBS to BR.
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    SaccharineWrath

    [295]Apr 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    I don't see how you could possibly think that seeing what Mai sacrificed for Zuko without even knowing it all, while Katara has been somewhat unpleasant towards him. I have nothing against Zutara but I think it's been effectively killed probably from CoD to DOBS to BR.

    I said it in my previous post, but I will say it again. I got a sense of closure from this episode for Maiko.

    Mai deserved an explanation from Zuko after that letter. She was hurt and upset. We finally got closure to this relationship. He explained himself further, and she got to tell Zuko how angry she was after leaving her. One thing that stuck out to me is that Zuko never once told Mai he loved her. We knew Mai loved Zuko. But Zuko's feelings for Mai - he does care for her - does not take priority over his love for his country. Mai was hurt on a personal level. But like Zuko said, it wasn't about her. I don't think she quite understands that. Its not about her. It has nothing to do with her. Its about doing the greater good for the benefit of the world. Honestly, Mai doesn't care one way or the other for this war. Stopping the gondola wasn't about doing the right thing for the war. She didn't care about Sokka, Suki, Hakoda, her uncle... If it had been anyone else, I sincerely believe that Mai would have let it fall into the water. But Zuko was there, and for Mai it was about saving Zuko... someone she loves. It still came down to her own desire.

    This is by no means a bad thing. Its a wonderful thing. But I think Zuko's in a different place mentally. He's about the world, She's all for him.

    Maybe I am not explaining it properly, but I just got a sense of closure for this relationship. That's just how I feel. If you don't agree... then oh well...

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    longtong1

    [296]Apr 26, 2008
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    Remember at book2 ch3, Ty Lee was force to join forces with Zula and when meeting with Mai (both Mai and Ty Lee seems close friend). Ty Lee definally knows that if Zula is going to kill Mai mean shes gonna do tat to her too... If Zula hold both of them in prison knowing their skill, dun think there is anyway they can escape and definally shes not going to jail them in the same place.
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    cdkee

    [297]Apr 26, 2008
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    Still waiting for the epic Azula / Zuko fight, I believe it will happen in good time.

    I want to see some Lightning relfecting action with her and Zuko.

    Edited on 04/26/2008 9:08pm
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    esquisofrenic

    [298]Apr 26, 2008
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    i'm sure that azula will kill mai or mke her suffer alot
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    alainadenhartog

    [299]Apr 26, 2008
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    esquisofrenic wrote:
    i'm sure that azula will kill mai or mke her suffer alot

    I doubt it. She was so angry all she wanted was mai and ty lee out of her sight where she would never have to see them again. Killing them is a little much.

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    asrealasitgets

    [300]Apr 26, 2008
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    alainadenhartog wrote:

    esquisofrenic wrote:
    i'm sure that azula will kill mai or mke her suffer alot

    I doubt it. She was so angry all she wanted was mai and ty lee out of her sight where she would never have to see them again. Killing them is a little much.



    Yes Mai will probably suffer.
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