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    raienbrasa

    [201]Apr 26, 2008
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    h_knick wrote:
    She was at the Boiling Rock looking to interrogate prisoners (remember, when she first got there, she looked at the prison guard the warden was questioning and said "that's not the one you want" or something along those lines). I think she was looking for information from the war prisoners that could lead her to Aang and Gaang. Since we saw at the end of DoBS that she was content to wait, she would be there at daddy's insistence.

    She said "That's not one of them." She knew Zuko was there, just like Mai knew. That's why all 3 girls showed up. When she heard about a possible guard in disguise, she was looking to see if it was someone from the gaang. Not recognizing him, she was like, "lol, not one of them."
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    picaboomman

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    wiseone_777 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    avataraang4 wrote:
    I no we saw the duke at the air temple around the fire but was haru there i can't remember?
    He was pushed off a cliff (he deserved it)

    Anyway, isn't it insane how Azula kkept flying around? No fair!
    Azula:The Last Firebending Airbender....


    mayebthat is the creators spin off idea o_0
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    wiseone_777

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    picaboomman wrote:
    wiseone_777 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    avataraang4 wrote:
    I no we saw the duke at the air temple around the fire but was haru there i can't remember?
    He was pushed off a cliff (he deserved it)

    Anyway, isn't it insane how Azula kkept flying around? No fair!
    Azula:The Last Firebending Airbender....


    mayebthat is the creators spin off idea o_0
    Daan Daan DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNN.....
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    nyfan

    [204]Apr 26, 2008
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    I noticed at the beginning of the episode, Zuko seems to be losen up a little bit to the group, which is good for everybody. After what he did in this episode, he has Sokka's support, as well as Suki and Hakoda support. So it is a step in the right direction.

    Also he has something else in common with the rest of the group, someone sacrifised her freedom and is in jail for tying to protect him, just like there are people in jail protecting the gAang at the end of the Day Of Black Sun.

    I wonder if Mai and Ty Lee are going to be in the same jail as Bato and the others. Azula did say to put Mai and Ty Lee away so she never has to see them again, the prison that Bato and others is near the palace, so I doubt they would be put there, because that is the closest to Azula.

    One disappointment was the lack of Zuko and Azula verbal communication during their fight. I wanted to know Azula feelings on Zuko's defection, maybe say something like "After everything I did for you to get back in father's good graces, this is how you repay me?" Just something like that.

    Edited on 04/26/2008 1:12pm
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    DeeDuck33

    [205]Apr 26, 2008
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    picaboomman wrote:
    wiseone_777 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    avataraang4 wrote:
    I no we saw the duke at the air temple around the fire but was haru there i can't remember?
    He was pushed off a cliff (he deserved it)

    Anyway, isn't it insane how Azula kkept flying around? No fair!
    Azula:The Last Firebending Airbender....


    mayebthat is the creators spin off idea o_0
    Azula is the new Avatar!
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    suss2it

    [206]Apr 26, 2008
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    nyfan wrote:

    I noticed at the beginning of the episode, Zuko seems to be losen up a little bit to the group, which is good for everybody. After what he did in this episode, he has Sokka's support, as well as Suki and Hakoda support. So it is a step in the right direction.

    Also he has something else in common with the rest of the group, someone sacrifised her freedom and is in jail for tying to protect him, just like there are people in jail protecting the gAang at the end of the Day Of Black Sun.

    I wonder if Mai and Ty Lee are going to be in the same jail as Bato and the others. Azula did say to put Mai and Ty Lee away so she never has to see them again, the prison that Bato and others is near the palace, so I doubt they would be put there, because that is the closest to Azula.

    One disappointment was the lack of Zuko and Azula verbal communication during their fight. I wanted to know Azula feelings on Zuko's defection, maybe say something like "After everything I did for you to get back in father's good graces, this is how you repay me?" Just something like that.

    Yea I wanted some sort of confrontation between the two, but it's not over yet so perhaps the writers couldn't contain to much epicness in one episode so they had to spread it out.

    Spike815 wrote:
    Did anyone else find the Zuko and Azula fight really lame?

    I mean, he honestly had to have Sokka help double team his little sister? What a loser. I thought the dragonforce firebending was supposed to make him better.
    The "dragonforce" didn't really give him extra power just a better understanding of firebending, but even the 2 teaming up didn't really do much damage. Hopefully we'll have a truly epic fight in the finale.

    Does anyone think that Zuko should practice generating lightning?
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    cranzenbach2050

    [207]Apr 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    Well I guess we all know Zutara won't be happening, looks like Maiko will though, if Mai doesn't come to an unfortunate end.


    I am a Zutarian, and even I had my doubts after watching this episode. The Nick Mag avatar special said Katara will either choose Aang or Zuko, definatly. Although Aang and Katara have a cutuness factor, Katara is unhappy and totally akward when she kisses Aang. At first I was so sure about my ship, but after seeing this episode I fear that if Katara is going to choose Zuko, the only way for that to happen is if Mai dies. As much as I don't want her to, I'm seriously afraid that that is what will happen.
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    Spike815

    [208]Apr 26, 2008
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    cranzenbach2050 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Well I guess we all know Zutara won't be happening, looks like Maiko will though, if Mai doesn't come to an unfortunate end.


    I am a Zutarian, and even I had my doubts after watching this episode. The Nick Mag avatar special said Katara will either choose Aang or Zuko, definatly. Although Aang and Katara have a cutuness factor, Katara is unhappy and totally akward when she kisses Aang. At first I was so sure about my ship, but after seeing this episode I fear that if Katara is going to choose Zuko, the only way for that to happen is if Mai dies. As much as I don't want her to, I'm seriously afraid that that is what will happen.


    Mai dies and Zuko gets over the death of his girlfriend, steals Aang's woman and leaves Aang all emo depressed?

    Sorry, can't see that happening.
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    AlwaysKataang

    [209]Apr 26, 2008
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    Can someone please send me a link to both parts? Thanks
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    cranzenbach2050

    [210]Apr 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    nyfan wrote:

    I noticed at the beginning of the episode, Zuko seems to be losen up a little bit to the group, which is good for everybody. After what he did in this episode, he has Sokka's support, as well as Suki and Hakoda support. So it is a step in the right direction.

    Also he has something else in common with the rest of the group, someone sacrifised her freedom and is in jail for tying to protect him, just like there are people in jail protecting the gAang at the end of the Day Of Black Sun.

    I wonder if Mai and Ty Lee are going to be in the same jail as Bato and the others. Azula did say to put Mai and Ty Lee away so she never has to see them again, the prison that Bato and others is near the palace, so I doubt they would be put there, because that is the closest to Azula.

    One disappointment was the lack of Zuko and Azula verbal communication during their fight. I wanted to know Azula feelings on Zuko's defection, maybe say something like "After everything I did for you to get back in father's good graces, this is how you repay me?" Just something like that.

    Yea I wanted some sort of confrontation between the two, but it's not over yet so perhaps the writers couldn't contain to much epicness in one episode so they had to spread it out.

    Spike815 wrote:
    Did anyone else find the Zuko and Azula fight really lame?

    I mean, he honestly had to have Sokka help double team his little sister? What a loser. I thought the dragonforce firebending was supposed to make him better.
    The "dragonforce" didn't really give him extra power just a better understanding of firebending, but even the 2 teaming up didn't really do much damage. Hopefully we'll have a truly epic fight in the finale.

    Does anyone think that Zuko should practice generating lightning?


    I do! He really should, since he is... what... at one with himself and all. And two the person you quoted, yeah, the fight really did suck. ALOT
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    de_flames101

    [211]Apr 26, 2008
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    someone please give me a link in a PM. thanks.
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    hkulka2974

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    on youtube you can go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ouBrjzLtEI (part 1 of the 1st half), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P24j9LQ4ZZE (2nd part of the 1st half), and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P24j9LQ4ZZE (3rd part of the 1st half).

    Im still searching for the 2nd half parts

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    khalid13

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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    on youtube you can go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ouBrjzLtEI (part 1 of the 1st half), http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P24j9LQ4ZZE (2nd part of the 1st half), and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P24j9LQ4ZZE (3rd part of the 1st half).

    Im still searching for the 2nd half parts

    Are you trying to get banned?

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    picaboomman

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    AlwaysKataang wrote:
    Can someone please send me a link to both parts? Thanks


    ask dee duck
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    suss2it

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    Spike815 wrote:
    cranzenbach2050 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Well I guess we all know Zutara won't be happening, looks like Maiko will though, if Mai doesn't come to an unfortunate end.


    I am a Zutarian, and even I had my doubts after watching this episode. The Nick Mag avatar special said Katara will either choose Aang or Zuko, definatly. Although Aang and Katara have a cutuness factor, Katara is unhappy and totally akward when she kisses Aang. At first I was so sure about my ship, but after seeing this episode I fear that if Katara is going to choose Zuko, the only way for that to happen is if Mai dies. As much as I don't want her to, I'm seriously afraid that that is what will happen.


    Mai dies and Zuko gets over the death of his girlfriend, steals Aang's woman and leaves Aang all emo depressed?

    Sorry, can't see that happening.
    QFT, I think it's safe to say that Zutara is definitely not happening, I'm not really a shipper, but come on how can you guys (Zutarians) justify it now?
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    Valin610

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    Wewt! Nice to see this thread pinned.
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    wiseone_777

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    suss2it wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    cranzenbach2050 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Well I guess we all know Zutara won't be happening, looks like Maiko will though, if Mai doesn't come to an unfortunate end.


    I am a Zutarian, and even I had my doubts after watching this episode. The Nick Mag avatar special said Katara will either choose Aang or Zuko, definatly. Although Aang and Katara have a cutuness factor, Katara is unhappy and totally akward when she kisses Aang. At first I was so sure about my ship, but after seeing this episode I fear that if Katara is going to choose Zuko, the only way for that to happen is if Mai dies. As much as I don't want her to, I'm seriously afraid that that is what will happen.


    Mai dies and Zuko gets over the death of his girlfriend, steals Aang's woman and leaves Aang all emo depressed?

    Sorry, can't see that happening.
    QFT, I think it's safe to say that Zutara is definitely not happening, I'm not really a shipper, but come on how can you guys (Zutarians) justify it now?
    Aang=emo? Never.....hehehe...Now Zuko.......
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    kkg14

    [218]Apr 26, 2008
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    After watching those two episodes, I'm starting to wonder how safe it is to have that much epic win in such a short period of time. I never really cared that much about Suki, but now, I have a lot more respect for her. She tore through several guards, ran on peoples' heads, scaled smooth metal walls like nobody's buisness, and captured the warden in one minute. Not to mention she held her own against Ty Lee. This is, without a doubt, her BAMF moment.

    Wow, I knew Mai would turn on Azula eventually, but Ty Lee? I can only imagine what Azula is giong to do to them.

    Since they weren't followed, I wonder how Azula finds the gaang at the air temple?
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    catgator185

    [219]Apr 26, 2008
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    I think Azula was there because she was escorting Sokka's father(Hakota right?) I mean she did help capture him and all. I kinda did expect Ty Lee and Mai to betray Azula at some point, but it was still a surprise when Ty lee attacked Azula. They probably won't show up until the finale though.
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    Pendragon_

    [220]Apr 26, 2008
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    I think these two episodes had some of my favourite quotes of the series with a few nods to the fandom as well.

    Sokka: You happy now!?

    Emo-Zuko: I'm never happy

    Pretty much the whole balloon ride was funny but I think the shipping references were put in just for the fun of it.

    Zuko: Well I did have a girlfriend...Mai

    Sokka: That gloomy girl who sighs a lot?

    .

    .

    Sokka: My first girlfriend turned into the moon

    Zuko: Thats rough buddy

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