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    1MMfan

    [261]Apr 26, 2008
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    I just watched Parts 1 and 2 on Youtube.Awesome episode.I'm glad Suki's alive and Zuko and Sokka made it back safe with Hakoda and that other guy.I'm glad Mai and Ty Lee gave Azula what she deserves,but I'm afraid to see Azula in the next few episodes.
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    nyfan

    [262]Apr 26, 2008
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    mister001 wrote:
    nyfan wrote:

    Zuko and Sokka for that matter, so what Mai did, and I guess the rest of the gAang knows that as well after Zuko and Sokka told them. So they know Mai is no longer on the Fire Lord's side. However they have no idea of what Ty Lee, as far at they know Ty Lee is an enemy.

    I think those inconsidence of knowledge will play a part, and that I think somehow Ty Lee will bump into the gAang looking for help without Mai, and would have to earn their trust. Mai on the other hand wouldn't have that problem, because Zuko and Sokka could say she saved them and she's cool.
    What mai did was more for zuko then for the others.... She still doesn't know why zuko joined the gaang she just loves zuko so much that she doesn't question his decision, besides I think she can see that this makes zuko happy which in term makes her happy.... So her joining the gaang... I doubt it. But in the end I think she's probably going to fight the firelord

    Well I think it in materal. They all know Mai is now an enemy of the Fire Nation, and more pacifcly an enemy of Azula. The old saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and I don't think the gAang with the few free allies they have, are going to be picky on reasoning.

    I am not saying she would join the gAang, but I am just it is easier for Mai to gain their trust than it is for Ty Lee.

    Edited on 04/26/2008 5:05pm
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    mister001

    [263]Apr 26, 2008
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    nyfan wrote:
    mister001 wrote:
    nyfan wrote:

    Zuko and Sokka for that matter, so what Mai did, and I guess the rest of the gAang knows that as well after Zuko and Sokka told them. So they know Mai is no longer on the Fire Lord's side. However they have no idea of what Ty Lee, as far at they know Ty Lee is an enemy.

    I think those inconsidence of knowledge will play a part, and that I think somehow Ty Lee will bump into the gAang looking for help without Mai, and would have to earn their trust. Mai on the other hand wouldn't have that problem, because Zuko and Sokka could say she saved them and she's cool.
    What mai did was more for zuko then for the others.... She still doesn't know why zuko joined the gaang she just loves zuko so much that she doesn't question his decision, besides I think she can see that this makes zuko happy which in term makes her happy.... So her joining the gaang... I doubt it. But in the end I think she's probably going to fight the firelord

    Well I think it in materal. They all know Mai is now an enemy of the Fire Nation, and more pacifcly an enemy of Azula. The old saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and I don't think the gAang with the few free allies they have, are going to be picky on reasoning.

    I am not saying she would join the gAang, but I am just it is easier for Mai to gain their trust than it is for Ty Lee.


    Yea oke I agree that she can join them more easily, but i think her character isn't like that.
    So she could, but she won't.
    I guess we agree
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    Blaster33456

    [264]Apr 26, 2008
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    mister001 wrote:
    nyfan wrote:
    mister001 wrote:
    nyfan wrote:

    Zuko and Sokka for that matter, so what Mai did, and I guess the rest of the gAang knows that as well after Zuko and Sokka told them. So they know Mai is no longer on the Fire Lord's side. However they have no idea of what Ty Lee, as far at they know Ty Lee is an enemy.

    I think those inconsidence of knowledge will play a part, and that I think somehow Ty Lee will bump into the gAang looking for help without Mai, and would have to earn their trust. Mai on the other hand wouldn't have that problem, because Zuko and Sokka could say she saved them and she's cool.
    What mai did was more for zuko then for the others.... She still doesn't know why zuko joined the gaang she just loves zuko so much that she doesn't question his decision, besides I think she can see that this makes zuko happy which in term makes her happy.... So her joining the gaang... I doubt it. But in the end I think she's probably going to fight the firelord

    Well I think it in materal. They all know Mai is now an enemy of the Fire Nation, and more pacifcly an enemy of Azula. The old saying the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and I don't think the gAang with the few free allies they have, are going to be picky on reasoning.

    I am not saying she would join the gAang, but I am just it is easier for Mai to gain their trust than it is for Ty Lee.


    Yea oke I agree that she can join them more easily, but i think her character isn't like that.
    So she could, but she won't.
    I guess we agree


    True Dat.
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    Blue_Spirit_524

    [265]Apr 26, 2008
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    I don't think that Ty-lee and Mai are going to join the ggang until the end, because that would require more episode time being devoted to their escape from where ever Azula puts them, and there isn't much time for that until the end.
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    neocarleen

    [266]Apr 26, 2008
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    Why didn't Iroh go to the Boiling Rock? Or that lady (forget her name) in The Puppetmaster? Iroh was a huge traitor and the woman was a captive from the Water Tribe? It doesn't say exactly where she was held, but the fact that she was able to just walk out suggest she probably wasn't in the Boiling Rock prison.

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    kkg14

    [267]Apr 26, 2008
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    neocarleen wrote:

    Why didn't Iroh go to the Boiling Rock? Or that lady (forget her name) in The Puppetmaster? Iroh was a huge traitor and the woman was a captive from the Water Tribe? It doesn't say exactly where she was held, but the fact that she was able to just walk out suggest she probably wasn't in the Boiling Rock prison.


    I don't know why Iroh wasn't sent to the Boiling Rock prison, but as for Hama, the prison might not have been in existance yet when she was captured.
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    daveshanFromGMU

    [268]Apr 26, 2008
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    Blue_Spirit_524 wrote:
    I don't think that Ty-lee and Mai are going to join the ggang until the end, because that would require more episode time being devoted to their escape from where ever Azula puts them, and there isn't much time for that until the end.
    Unfortunately, we probably aren't going to see them anymore. They really were just sidekick villians.

    It probably end up being a Jet-like thing. They die and Mike and Bryan will announce it, but, because it's a kid's show, we'll never actually see the bodies.

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    Nakkie34

    [269]Apr 26, 2008
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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    Blue_Spirit_524 wrote:
    I don't think that Ty-lee and Mai are going to join the ggang until the end, because that would require more episode time being devoted to their escape from where ever Azula puts them, and there isn't much time for that until the end.
    Unfortunately, we probably aren't going to see them anymore. They really were just sidekick villians.

    It probably end up being a Jet-like thing. They die and Mike and Bryan will announce it, but, because it's a kid's show, we'll never actually see the bodies.



    I don't think that's gonna happen. Remember Mai is zoko's girl. And they are "pretty" important overall. So... my guess they will defenitely return.

    Ps: that plottwist was EPIC
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    daveshanFromGMU

    [270]Apr 26, 2008
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    Nakkie34 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    Blue_Spirit_524 wrote:
    I don't think that Ty-lee and Mai are going to join the ggang until the end, because that would require more episode time being devoted to their escape from where ever Azula puts them, and there isn't much time for that until the end.
    Unfortunately, we probably aren't going to see them anymore. They really were just sidekick villians.

    It probably end up being a Jet-like thing. They die and Mike and Bryan will announce it, but, because it's a kid's show, we'll never actually see the bodies.

    I don't think that's gonna happen. Remember Mai is zoko's girl. And they are "pretty" important overall. So... my guess they will defenitely return. Ps: that plottwist was EPIC

    Plot twist? I'll agree that it was a surprise to see Ty Lee turn, but everyone knew that Mai would help Zuko escape (although none predicted that badassary that she would do it with).

    Plus, at the end, Katara seemed to have feelings for Jet again and he died.

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    seanroylv

    [271]Apr 26, 2008
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    One important speculation: could the giant firebending guy( don't know how to spell his name) be one of the Southern Raiders, or at least he had info about the incident with Katara and Sokka's mother.
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    hkulka2974

    [272]Apr 26, 2008
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    seanroylv wrote:
    One important speculation: could the giant firebending guy( don't know how to spell his name) be one of the Southern Raiders, or at least he had info about the incident with Katara and Sokka's mother.

    i dont think so because sokka's dad would recognize him. and also why would he be in jail if he led such a successful mission into the southern water tribe?

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    zukofangirl2006

    [273]Apr 26, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    seanroylv wrote:
    One important speculation: could the giant firebending guy( don't know how to spell his name) be one of the Southern Raiders, or at least he had info about the incident with Katara and Sokka's mother.

    i dont think so because sokka's dad would recognize him. and also why would he be in jail if he led such a successful mission into the southern water tribe?

    The same reason Benedict Arnold is considered a traitor.

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    MarryLarry

    [274]Apr 26, 2008
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    Good episodes. Nice action sequences. Though it didn't really feel like a TV movie like DoBS or SotN or SotFN. It just felt like a long episode. Also my major quirk with The BR is the scene where Sokka thrusts his sword at Azula (no innuendo intended) and just stops.

    Azula was backed into a corner (and by corner I mean ledge) where she had nowhere to go and no way to dodge and he just stops. There was a good 2 second pause where he could have either stabbed her or sent her plummeting. Was this an act of mercy and compassion or a clunky animation mistake?

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    hkulka2974

    [275]Apr 26, 2008
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    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    seanroylv wrote:
    One important speculation: could the giant firebending guy( don't know how to spell his name) be one of the Southern Raiders, or at least he had info about the incident with Katara and Sokka's mother.

    i dont think so because sokka's dad would recognize him. and also why would he be in jail if he led such a successful mission into the southern water tribe?

    The same reason Benedict Arnold is considered a traitor.

    i doubt it. i bet he wont even be there for the sr. there may be a slim chance though

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    Nakkie34

    [276]Apr 26, 2008
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    daveshanFromGMU wrote:
    Nakkie34 wrote:
    daveshanFromGMU wrote:

    Blue_Spirit_524 wrote:
    I don't think that Ty-lee and Mai are going to join the ggang until the end, because that would require more episode time being devoted to their escape from where ever Azula puts them, and there isn't much time for that until the end.
    Unfortunately, we probably aren't going to see them anymore. They really were just sidekick villians.

    It probably end up being a Jet-like thing. They die and Mike and Bryan will announce it, but, because it's a kid's show, we'll never actually see the bodies.

    I don't think that's gonna happen. Remember Mai is zoko's girl. And they are "pretty" important overall. So... my guess they will defenitely return. Ps: that plottwist was EPIC

    Plot twist? I'll agree that it was a surprise to see Ty Lee turn, but everyone knew that Mai would help Zuko escape (although none predicted that badassary that she would do it with).

    Plus, at the end, Katara seemed to have feelings for Jet again and he died.



    i dont think shipping wise. Just epic.
    That war a brilliant part of the episode.

    Ps: I still think it will be maiko eventualy. Its just goin that direction
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    DeeDuck33

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    kkg14 wrote:
    neocarleen wrote:

    Why didn't Iroh go to the Boiling Rock? Or that lady (forget her name) in The Puppetmaster? Iroh was a huge traitor and the woman was a captive from the Water Tribe? It doesn't say exactly where she was held, but the fact that she was able to just walk out suggest she probably wasn't in the Boiling Rock prison.


    I don't know why Iroh wasn't sent to the Boiling Rock prison, but as for Hama, the prison might not have been in existance yet when she was captured.

    Sending a master waterbender to a prison surrounded by boiling hot water isn't the best idea.
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    nyfan

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    I did think Mai was going to help Zuko escape, but not the way it happened. I thought she was going to help him more of a behind everyone's back kind of way, and not give her loyality away to Azula.
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    picaboomman

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    neocarleen wrote:

    Why didn't Iroh go to the Boiling Rock? Or that lady (forget her name) in The Puppetmaster? Iroh was a huge traitor and the woman was a captive from the Water Tribe? It doesn't say exactly where she was held, but the fact that she was able to just walk out suggest she probably wasn't in the Boiling Rock prison.


    i dont know...but the kyoshi warriosrs and the water tribe and earth kingdom dudes are probably at the same prison that iroh was at. it is near the palace
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    raienbrasa

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    picaboomman wrote:
    neocarleen wrote:

    Why didn't Iroh go to the Boiling Rock? Or that lady (forget her name) in The Puppetmaster? Iroh was a huge traitor and the woman was a captive from the Water Tribe? It doesn't say exactly where she was held, but the fact that she was able to just walk out suggest she probably wasn't in the Boiling Rock prison.
    i dont know...but the kyoshi warriosrs and the water tribe and earth kingdom dudes are probably at the same prison that iroh was at. it is near the palace
    Doubt it, at least some of it. Earthbenders would have to go somewhere else.
    Edited on 04/26/2008 7:14pm
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