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| ThisCrazyGuy wrote: |
| Well, I actually hope he DOES return to the Sun Warriors for extra training... Not only could he use the extra power and training, but he needs the extra power and training... Quite frankly, he's THE FIRELORD now, he is no longer the banished prince, he has a lot to live up to and a lot of improving to do aswell, and if he wants to live up to the title of The Fire Nation's current RULER (Also, the names of Sozin, Azulon, Ozai and even Azula), then he needs to step up his game... Considering he can't even create Lightning yet (And probably never will be able to create lightning), he really needs to learn some legendary Firebending... Not in any hurry, but he needs to do it... Besides, when Azula escapes (And I firmly believe she will) he is going to need all the training in the world... |
| Sektos wrote: | ||
Whilst i dont agree with him "needing" extra training, i do agree that that is a good idea ThisCrazyGuy |
I quote Iroh:
"Good and evil will always be at war inside of you Zuko - it is your nature, your legacy".
Zuko will, according to Iroh (whose advice can usually be trusted), always have the internal conflict that prevents lightning creation. He's going to have to stick with plain old firebending.
| Axrendale wrote: |
I quote Iroh: "Good and evil will always be at war inside of you Zuko - it is your nature, your legacy". Zuko will, according to Iroh (whose advice can usually be trusted), always have the internal conflict that prevents lightning creation. He's going to have to stick with plain old firebending. |
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I like to think of it as a plot device that didn't go anywhere and didn't affect anything. ;p
So yeah, I think it was Zuko's inner battle between deciding what he really wants; staying true to himself. Well he's certainly dealt with and resoed that issue. I don't see why he can't conjure up lightning. If he can't, more plot inconsistencies!
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I like to think of it as a plot device that didn't go anywhere and didn't affect anything. ;p So yeah, I think it was Zuko's inner battle between deciding what he really wants; staying true to himself. Well he's certainly dealt with and resoed that issue. I don't see why he can't conjure up lightning. If he can't, more plot inconsistencies! |
| isabelwhatx wrote: |
| Azula has no inner turmoil, really. I mean, she has problems, but she's not confused about anything. She sees things in black and white. That's why, in my opinion, she doesn't have trouble bending. |
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In theory she should, but Azula just didn't inherit it, I guess. She never received the love or connection from Ursa needed for her to acquire that deep connection with Avatar Roku. Zuko, however, did. That's why he chose the Avatar over his own father. He had a closer relationship (kind of, you know what I mean) to the Avatar than to his own father. His father's hold on him was just a seemingly tangible illusion. |
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She was born with them, but she never had a doubt in her mind who she wanted to be, therefore turmoil had no place in her heart. Zuko, however, always questioned himself underneath it all. And that's the whole point, that Zuko wasn't really connected to Ozai. It was all an illusion, therefore Zuko was destined to help Aang. He was more close to one side than the other. Azula, on the other hand, was more close to Ozai, therefore leading to her undying loyalty towards him. |
| MCMLXVI wrote: |
| Zuko probably could make lightning now, but he knows better not to. Lightning is a chiefly offensive move anyway, and he doesn't feel the need to resort to it |
| isabelwhatx wrote: | ||
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Dear Mike and Bryan.
We of the fandom are quite perplexed in regards to a certain topic of interest. Please explain the paradox that is Azula's lightning creation during the finale when she was clearly in no state of emotional OR spiritual peace. It greatly clashes with Iroh's philosophy of lightning in "Bitter Work." Also, if you are willing please clarify what exactly Iroh meant by his words to Zuko about his heritage with Roku and Sozin in "The Avatar and the Fire Lord" as well as why Azula is apparently devoid of it.
Sincerely, Fandom
Seriously, though. We can only speculate and no matter how much fanwank is created we'll never know. Not because the creators haven't said anything but in the context of the show it didn't seem to mean anything! 2 and a half seasons of developing why Zuko was/is the way he was/is just to be thrown out the window because "It's In the Blood?" That's preposterous. Not only does it contradict Zuko's story arch but then you get into the twilight zone of why it doesn't affect Azula.
| ThisCrazyGuy wrote: |
| Iroh specifically said good and evil will always be at war within Zuko... It's WHO he is, and its probably one of the reasons his father never accepted him... He can't change or get rid of it, therefore, Zuko + Lightning creation = Not going to happen... Oh, and I'm fairly sure that IROH'S words can be trusted... Ozai and Zuko have both stated that Azula was "born lucky"... Maybe she just doesn't have the burden that Zuko inherited inside her at all, I think it's the fact that (And this has been mentioned) Zuko was more spiritually connected with Roku than Azula was because of the amounts of love they both resieved from Ursa (Zuko - A lot, Azula - Obviously not that much)... |
