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    Valin610

    [961]Apr 21, 2008
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    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    For right now, let's just toss all the new Zutara/Kataang business aside and ask the question... "WHERE THE HELL IS IROH?!?!?!?!??!" I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see some buff'd Iroh ownage soon.
    Dude wrong thread to talk about that.(points to title)


    I'm well aware, but as Space mentions, it's pretty dumb to argue about things that really can't be argued.


    Also pretty dumb to come into a thread specifically for shipping and then complain about all the shipping.

    I see no complaining, I've even added my opinions to the new scenes we've seen. I just thought changing our mindset to something less arguementive would calm the fire. But since everyone LOVES to insult people for trying to neutralize things, I guess breifly changing the topic only results in more anger.
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    Spacerac

    [962]Apr 21, 2008
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    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    For right now, let's just toss all the new Zutara/Kataang business aside and ask the question... "WHERE THE HELL IS IROH?!?!?!?!??!" I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see some buff'd Iroh ownage soon.
    Dude wrong thread to talk about that.(points to title)


    I'm well aware, but as Space mentions, it's pretty dumb to argue about things that really can't be argued.


    Also pretty dumb to come into a thread specifically for shipping and then complain about all the shipping.
    I'm not complaining about the shipping, more of the shippers, really. It's getting to be too much about insults instead of trying to prove your ship will happen. I mean, it's one thing when you're kidding, it's another when you get too serious with it.
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    Spike815

    [963]Apr 21, 2008
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    Valin610 wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    For right now, let's just toss all the new Zutara/Kataang business aside and ask the question... "WHERE THE HELL IS IROH?!?!?!?!??!" I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see some buff'd Iroh ownage soon.
    Dude wrong thread to talk about that.(points to title)


    I'm well aware, but as Space mentions, it's pretty dumb to argue about things that really can't be argued.


    Also pretty dumb to come into a thread specifically for shipping and then complain about all the shipping.

    I see no complaining, I've even added my opinions to the new scenes we've seen. I just thought changing our mindset to something less arguementive would calm the fire. But since everyone LOVES to insult people for trying to neutralize things, I guess breifly changing the topic only results in more anger.


    When you come in to a topic for shipping and say "lawl shippings dumb, this topic is now about why we shouldn't be argueing." I can understand if you don't like argueing about these things, but why come into a thread made for argueing about them and try to stop it?

    It's off topic and it's just as rude as starting a shipping war on a non-shipping thread.
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    waterbender6025

    [964]Apr 21, 2008
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    i still cant believe that you zutarians are still questioning the CoTL kiss, of course they kissed, they were leaning in, the light goes out, a few seconds pass and the creepy glowing crystals start. then the camera deliberately goes to a slow movement back to them, they would have deliberately done it to keep the suspense going for kataang and their relationship. then after the kiss they blush and aang wants to talk about it but katara is too facinated by the glowing lights. and i think if they didnt kiss they wouldnt be blushing and they would have been acting very differently. kataang wins.
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    Valin610

    [965]Apr 21, 2008
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    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    For right now, let's just toss all the new Zutara/Kataang business aside and ask the question... "WHERE THE HELL IS IROH?!?!?!?!??!" I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see some buff'd Iroh ownage soon.
    Dude wrong thread to talk about that.(points to title)


    I'm well aware, but as Space mentions, it's pretty dumb to argue about things that really can't be argued.


    Also pretty dumb to come into a thread specifically for shipping and then complain about all the shipping.

    I see no complaining, I've even added my opinions to the new scenes we've seen. I just thought changing our mindset to something less arguementive would calm the fire. But since everyone LOVES to insult people for trying to neutralize things, I guess breifly changing the topic only results in more anger.


    When you come in to a topic for shipping and say "lawl shippings dumb, this topic is now about why we shouldn't be argueing." I can understand if you don't like argueing about these things, but why come into a thread made for argueing about them and try to stop it?

    It's off topic and it's just as rude as starting a shipping war on a non-shipping thread.


    You make it seem like I was forcing a topic change. I simply asked a question, but no, it was a rude gesture and for some reason you had to take offense. I was only curious as to how people thought about another topic, I wouldn't care if no one replied. If you break down forum posting as to it being rude to lighten up a thread, I think you're taking it all too seriously. Just don't answer or respond next time if you find it "rude".
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    Spike815

    [966]Apr 21, 2008
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    Valin610 wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    For right now, let's just toss all the new Zutara/Kataang business aside and ask the question... "WHERE THE HELL IS IROH?!?!?!?!??!" I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see some buff'd Iroh ownage soon.
    Dude wrong thread to talk about that.(points to title)


    I'm well aware, but as Space mentions, it's pretty dumb to argue about things that really can't be argued.


    Also pretty dumb to come into a thread specifically for shipping and then complain about all the shipping.

    I see no complaining, I've even added my opinions to the new scenes we've seen. I just thought changing our mindset to something less arguementive would calm the fire. But since everyone LOVES to insult people for trying to neutralize things, I guess breifly changing the topic only results in more anger.


    When you come in to a topic for shipping and say "lawl shippings dumb, this topic is now about why we shouldn't be argueing." I can understand if you don't like argueing about these things, but why come into a thread made for argueing about them and try to stop it?

    It's off topic and it's just as rude as starting a shipping war on a non-shipping thread.


    You make it seem like I was forcing a topic change. I simply asked a question, but no, it was a rude gesture and for some reason you had to take offense. I was only curious as to how people thought about another topic, I wouldn't care if no one replied. If you break down forum posting as to it being rude to lighten up a thread, I think you're taking it all too seriously. Just don't answer or respond next time if you find it "rude".


    Well that attempt kinda backfired.
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    Lea-chan

    [967]Apr 21, 2008
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    waterbender6025 wrote:
    i still cant believe that you zutarians are still questioning the CoTL kiss, of course they kissed, they were leaning in, the light goes out, a few seconds pass and the creepy glowing crystals start. then the camera deliberately goes to a slow movement back to them, they would have deliberately done it to keep the suspense going for kataang and their relationship. then after the kiss they blush and aang wants to talk about it but katara is too facinated by the glowing lights. and i think if they didnt kiss they wouldnt be blushing and they would have been acting very differently. kataang wins.


    What the heck?

    Okay- first of all, I am not proving Zutara or Kataang here. Infact, I've changed to neutral. But... Zutara or Kataang, I don't think they kissed in CoTL.

    Why?

    Well, Aang and Katara said it themselves:

    Aang: It's made of some kind of crystals. They must only light up in the dark! Katara: That's how the two lovers found each other. They just put out their lights and followed the crystals. AND

    If they had really kissed, why was Katara so surprised in the DOBS kiss, and the kiss in the trailer?

    WTH? Katara is fascinated by glowing lights?


    Just... just believe what you like. But THAT is why I think they didn't kiss.
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    SgtHydra

    [968]Apr 21, 2008
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    Why didn't they kiss in CoTL?

    Cause the kiss on DoBS was their first kiss, duh.

    Why was that such a suprise if they kissed before. Katara's experession, whatever it was, had a look of "well... that's new..."

    No kiss in CoTL.

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    ruboy003

    [969]Apr 21, 2008
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    [QUOTE="Valin610"]
    Spike815 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    For right now, let's just toss all the new Zutara/Kataang business aside and ask the question... "WHERE THE HELL IS IROH?!?!?!?!??!" I don't know about everyone else, but I want to see some buff'd Iroh ownage soon.
    Dude wrong thread to talk about that.(points to title)


    I'm well aware, but as Space mentions, it's pretty dumb to argue about things that really can't be argued.


    Also pretty dumb to come into a thread specifically for shipping and then complain about all the shipping.

    maybe he just want some attention.... why dont you just give him a chance.... )
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    MasterBender

    [970]Apr 22, 2008
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    SgtHydra wrote:

    Why didn't they kiss in CoTL?

    Cause the kiss on DoBS was their first kiss, duh.

    Why was that such a suprise if they kissed before. Katara's experession, whatever it was, had a look of "well... that's new..."

    No kiss in CoTL.



    Or she regarded the CotL kiss as out of neccessity, not out of romance. The kiss may not have been new, but the romance was.
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    SplitReflection

    [971]Apr 22, 2008
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    MasterBender wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Why didn't they kiss in CoTL?

    Cause the kiss on DoBS was their first kiss, duh.

    Why was that such a suprise if they kissed before. Katara's experession, whatever it was, had a look of "well... that's new..."

    No kiss in CoTL.

    Or she regarded the CotL kiss as out of neccessity, not out of romance. The kiss may not have been new, but the romance was.

    It was deliberately left ambiguous as to whether or not they kissed. Personally I'm leaning towards the view that they didn't, merely based on evidence from later episodes.

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    AnimeAngel90

    [972]Apr 22, 2008
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    SplitReflection wrote:
    MasterBender wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Why didn't they kiss in CoTL?

    Cause the kiss on DoBS was their first kiss, duh.

    Why was that such a suprise if they kissed before. Katara's experession, whatever it was, had a look of "well... that's new..."

    No kiss in CoTL.

    Or she regarded the CotL kiss as out of neccessity, not out of romance. The kiss may not have been new, but the romance was.

    It was deliberately left ambiguous as to whether or not they kissed. Personally I'm leaning towards the view that they didn't, merely based on evidence from later episodes.

    I agree. I severly doubt that they kissed in CotL. Besides, you kataangers apparently have heaps of other evidence, why keep using CotL stuff (which, due to Oma and Shu, is actually more Zutara than kataang )
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    Spacerac

    [973]Apr 22, 2008
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    Ahem..
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    Spacerac

    [974]Apr 22, 2008
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    Aang and Katara were already kissing in the trailer, so for now, until we see the scene in it's entirety, it's not certain whether or not it's not another surprise kiss.
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    SgtHydra

    [975]Apr 22, 2008
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    MasterBender wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    Why didn't they kiss in CoTL?

    Cause the kiss on DoBS was their first kiss, duh.

    Why was that such a suprise if they kissed before. Katara's experession, whatever it was, had a look of "well... that's new..."

    No kiss in CoTL.

    Or she regarded the CotL kiss as out of neccessity, not out of romance. The kiss may not have been new, but the romance was.

    Listen.

    Obviously you've never "been around" or "done it" with anyone, so here's the scoop: A kiss, any kiss made by anyone outside your family, is considered your first kiss.

    Same reasoning as your "first time."

    Aang first revealed he had a crush on Katara on DoBS. How did he do it? By kissing her. What was her reaction? Slightly shocked, at best. At worst, confused.

    The DoBS kiss was such a suprise cause it was their first. How could you not realize that?

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    Spacerac

    [976]Apr 22, 2008
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    SgtHydra wrote:
    Obviously you've never "been around" or "done it" with anyone
    *pops in* Well that's just cold. *pops out*
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    LeonMorado

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    zutarian or kataanger, it doesn't make a difference. it's obvious they didn't kiss in cotl. as lea-chan and i have pointed out, their dialogue after the crystals start glowing makes it perfectly clear. if they'd kissed, they would have made some connection between the kiss and the sudden glowing crystals. but they didn't. they saw the glowing crystals and immediately attributed them to the fact that their lights went out.
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    Spacerac

    [978]Apr 22, 2008
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    Spacerac wrote:
    Ahem..
    Well anyway, whether they kissed or not, no one's ever going to agree on that. Some feel they were in close enough proximity to have kissed. Personally, I'm pretty sure they did, but there's a good chance they didn't, so I'm staying out of this one.
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    ruboy003

    [979]Apr 22, 2008
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    LeonMorado wrote:
    zutarian or kataanger, it doesn't make a difference. it's obvious they didn't kiss in cotl. as lea-chan and i have pointed out, their dialogue after the crystals start glowing makes it perfectly clear. if they'd kissed, they would have made some connection between the kiss and the sudden glowing crystals. but they didn't. they saw the glowing crystals and immediately attributed them to the fact that their lights went out.

    katara is the one who proposd the idea of kissing for getting out in the cave and she blushed..... But im not sure either if they kissed or not..... when their fire died and about to kiss, the gems begin to glow and both of them didnt show any reactions so ther are so many clues on both ships and we can not tell...... maybe the writers just want us to be confused and argue if wat ship wins..... the clues showed on both ships are balanced so thers no way we could prove of any ships, we just hav to wait for the episodes......
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    LeonMorado

    [980]Apr 22, 2008
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    ruboy003 wrote:
    when their fire died and about to kiss, the gems begin to glow and both of them didnt show any reactions so ther are so many clues on both ships and we can not tell...... maybe the writers just want us to be confused and argue if wat ship wins..... the clues showed on both ships are balanced so thers no way we could prove of any ships, we just hav to wait for the episodes......
    but they did react, by saying "they light up in the dark" and "They just put out their lights and followed the crystals."
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