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now that we saw Boiling Rock, what u think of Zutara?

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    Blaster33456

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    kaybee_2 wrote:
    I didn't realize that seeking comfort from a guy means you're officially in love! That's a very interesting theory, SgtHydra.

    It's also amazing how a fourteen year old and a sixteen year old are a pair of adults when they hug, while a fourteen year old and a twelve year old are just like a mother and son. Somehow that doesn't make sense to me....

    And about the Kataang=Maiko thing: That's not true. I was actually never a Maiko shipper until this episode. I found it quite boring and really didn't care for it at all. This episode was actually what caused me to start shipping it because of the love and dedication in the relationship. Yes, he dumped her, but that sarcastic remark doesn't mean anything. She was willing to give her life for Zuko...and you're trying to tell me that's not real love? And if you even paid a speck of attention to the way Zuko acted in that episode, it's obvious to anyone that he still has feelings for her. As of now, they're not "officially" dating -- all because Zuko didn't want Mai to get involved and get hurt, not because he doesn't love her.


    Straight up Stubborn, You Zutaras are.
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    aalaois

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    If there was not meant to be more to come for Maiko, they wouldn't have used a line as powerful as "you miscalculated, I love zuko more than I fear you"... Azula's pretty scary, so that's reallly sayin something. you have to admit that this line alone indicates that there will at least be more storyline to come out of Mai and Zuko's relationship... it'd be a pretty dumb move to write Mai off into oblivion after that. no matter what you want to happen in the end, Mai has officially been cemented in as playing a part in Zuko's final status.
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    Valin610

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    My only wish is for 316 to murder Zutara and only make it a friendship between them, not a love relationship. This is what I suspect anyway.

    Kataang and Maiko for the future!
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    hkulka2974

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    aalaois wrote:
    If there was not meant to be more to come for Maiko, they wouldn't have used a line as powerful as "you miscalculated, I love zuko more than I fear you"... Azula's pretty scary, so that's reallly sayin something. you have to admit that this line alone indicates that there will at least be more storyline to come out of Mai and Zuko's relationship... it'd be a pretty dumb move to write Mai off into oblivion after that. no matter what you want to happen in the end, Mai has officially been cemented in as playing a part in Zuko's final status.

    we would probably end up with some weird love triangle, if there were more episodes, but there are two things wrong with Maiko right now

    1. May was not seen in any part of the trailer after the br

    2. May is trapped in the br

    and for those who say that May will escape because her father will let her out, dont count on it, i bet Azula will fire him in her anger.

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    lfreenote

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    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)

    Not true at all :-) I've been a Maiko fan since Zuko Alone. I've only started to really like Kataang since around about the beginning of this season.

    Sorry to burst your bubble there - but anyway, here, have a muffin! *offers muffin* Don't worry, it won't bite - this isn't Soviet Russia ;-)

    (Oh, btw Maiko soooo isn't the only thing preventing Zutara from happening - not by a longshot.)

    Edited on 04/27/2008 10:46am
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    RR4RogueRaven

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    lfreenote wrote:
    not by a longshot.

    You mean Longshot will put an arrow in the heart of Katara if she goes to Zuko yeah I thought that was Jet final wish as well...IF she ever goes to that Lee guy end her!

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    vampys_girl

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    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all. But I really believe in Maizo. I mean, they broke up but you can feel that Zuko feels horrible about breaking up with Mai. He did it because he feels helping the avatar and restoring balance is more important. He could not ask Mai to join him at the moment, but by helping them escape she proved she loved him and eventually they will end up together. Is not easy standing up too Azula. "I love Zuko more than I fear you". That's kind of strong, she loves him and he loves her too. When he told Sokka he had a girlfriend and it was Mai he was smiling just remembering her. He said he couldn't drag her into this. he feels he did what's best for her, him and the world by breaking up with her, even if he only left a letter. As for Zutara, they make great fan fiction but I can't see it happen in the show.
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    Valin610

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    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.


    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances.

    Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.
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    aalaois

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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    aalaois wrote:
    If there was not meant to be more to come for Maiko, they wouldn't have used a line as powerful as "you miscalculated, I love zuko more than I fear you"... Azula's pretty scary, so that's reallly sayin something. you have to admit that this line alone indicates that there will at least be more storyline to come out of Mai and Zuko's relationship... it'd be a pretty dumb move to write Mai off into oblivion after that. no matter what you want to happen in the end, Mai has officially been cemented in as playing a part in Zuko's final status.

    we would probably end up with some weird love triangle, if there were more episodes, but there are two things wrong with Maiko right now

    1. May was not seen in any part of the trailer after the br

    2. May is trapped in the br

    and for those who say that May will escape because her father will let her out, dont count on it, i bet Azula will fire him in her anger.

    I don't know how Mai will escape, but I do know Mike and Bryan are not stupid enough to put in that intense of a scene and then not have Mai show up ever again. If absolutely nothing else, when Zuko's placed on the thone to restore balance Mai will definitely be freed and there will have to be a scene between the two of 'em. I'm not saying they must get together, i'm saying there must be a scene... which actually likely means they will get together but if nothing else I'm absolutely convinced that it would be a travesty to the entire series to put that scene in the boiling rock and not have it mean something in the final episodes.

    one thing to think about if you still want to hate on Maiko but admit the obvious importance of Mai's saving of Zuko: Mai saved Zuko because she loves him and Ty Lee saved Mai because she's her friend... that doesn't mean either of them have any shred of a desire to retore balance to the world they just don't want the people they care about hurt/killed... perhaps Mai shows up as a temptress for Zuko to seize power and continue the Firenation's evil ways, so he has to give her up even though he cares about her and maybe even fight her in the end.

    going with the idea of meeting her again after being placed on the throne, perhaps she meets him and says "great, now the two of us can rule the world together" and he is tempted to do so because he loves her but has to throw her back in prison and ends up a tragically alone figure (or for you crazy zutarians, katara comes and comforts him and becames the fire queen)

    Edited on 04/28/2008 12:04am
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    Valin610 wrote:
    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.


    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances.

    Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.
    what IF Aang still loves Katara when he is 18 and she is 20?, please don't make ships all about sex, plus it was established by Yue that is traditional in the 4 nations not to have people engaged before their 16th birthday(which basically means that the FN was ok with Mai being the GF of Zuko, but not yet to be engaged as she is still 15)
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    Valin610 wrote:
    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.
    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances. Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.

    all bull

    aang is not performing a mature action but is very brave and courageous. mature is, according to dictionary.com, fully developed in body or mind, as a person. so aang is definitely not mature.

    12 IS STILL A EFFING RETARDED AGE TO DATE. kids that ARE going out at the age of 8-10 is SH!TASTIC FU*KING STUPID.

    its still a crush. a kid does not know the true feeling of love. but maybe since this is a KIDS TV FICTIONAL SHOW, then MAYBE whatever.

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    Valin610

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    L0717 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.
    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances. Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.

    all bull

    aang is not performing a mature action but is very brave and courageous. mature is, according to dictionary.com, fully developed in body or mind, as a person. so aang is definitely not mature.

    12 IS STILL A EFFING RETARDED AGE TO DATE. kids that ARE going out at the age of 8-10 is SH!TASTIC FU*KING STUPID.

    its still a crush. a kid does not know the true feeling of love. but maybe since this is a KIDS TV FICTIONAL SHOW, then MAYBE whatever.



    I'm always seeing 12 year old kids out protecting people from harm, bringing peace, and, most importantly, ending disputes between two arguing sides. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO TELL ME THIS ISN'T BEING MATURE? His body may not be mature, yes, but he definitely ACTS MATURE. That's what some people, like yourself, NEVER understand.

    The creators have made it clear that relationships in the Avatar world start at an early age. As Wiselad pointed out, Yue was getting engaged in her young teens. In the time they're basing the series around, it was alright for couples to be formed at younger ages than it is now.

    Regardless of this show being aired on a kids tv station, its audience is definitely target more towards teens/young adults. Aang can definitely learn what love is; he's been through more than people his age or older, it's not like he's inexperienced in life or anything. Love is a part of life; he's seen it while traveling around the world, he knows what to expect and when it might occur. He was basically told by the Guru that Katara's the love of the Air Nomads reformed, Aang has no reason to deny him because of all the things Katara's done for him.

    Don't go saying what I say is bull when I actually have reasons behind it. And only saying one definition to a multiple meaning word is ridiculous; if you read down the list of definitions, you would find one relating to one that is "completed, perfected, or elaborated in full by the mind." It's pretty biased to say what a kid can and cannot do. There's many kids out there that can do amazing things that people twice, even three times their age cannot.
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    Nickylucas

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    Valin610 wrote:
    L0717 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.
    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances. Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.

    all bull

    aang is not performing a mature action but is very brave and courageous. mature is, according to dictionary.com, fully developed in body or mind, as a person. so aang is definitely not mature.

    12 IS STILL A EFFING RETARDED AGE TO DATE. kids that ARE going out at the age of 8-10 is SH!TASTIC FU*KING STUPID.

    its still a crush. a kid does not know the true feeling of love. but maybe since this is a KIDS TV FICTIONAL SHOW, then MAYBE whatever.

    I'm always seeing 12 year old kids out protecting people from harm, bringing peace, and, most importantly, ending disputes between two arguing sides. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO TELL ME THIS ISN'T BEING MATURE? His body may not be mature, yes, but he definitely ACTS MATURE. That's what some people, like yourself, NEVER understand. The creators have made it clear that relationships in the Avatar world start at an early age. As Wiselad pointed out, Yue was getting engaged in her young teens. In the time they're basing the series around, it was alright for couples to be formed at younger ages than it is now. Regardless of this show being aired on a kids tv station, its audience is definitely target more towards teens/young adults. Aang can definitely learn what love is; he's been through more than people his age or older, it's not like he's inexperienced in life or anything. Love is a part of life; he's seen it while traveling around the world, he knows what to expect and when it might occur. He was basically told by the Guru that Katara's the love of the Air Nomads reformed, Aang has no reason to deny him because of all the things Katara's done for him. Don't go saying what I say is bull when I actually have reasons behind it. And only saying one definition to a multiple meaning word is ridiculous; if you read down the list of definitions, you would find one relating to one that is "completed, perfected, or elaborated in full by the mind." It's pretty biased to say what a kid can and cannot do. There's many kids out there that can do amazing things that people twice, even three times their age cannot.
    For one thing, I can tell that you are a Kataanger, and I completely agree with your well-thought-out post. All I can say now, is that Zutara has the chance of 6 episodes to happen. Otherwise, Kataang wins the Shipping Wars!????
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    Nickylucas wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    L0717 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.
    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances. Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.

    all bull

    aang is not performing a mature action but is very brave and courageous. mature is, according to dictionary.com, fully developed in body or mind, as a person. so aang is definitely not mature.

    12 IS STILL A EFFING RETARDED AGE TO DATE. kids that ARE going out at the age of 8-10 is SH!TASTIC FU*KING STUPID.

    its still a crush. a kid does not know the true feeling of love. but maybe since this is a KIDS TV FICTIONAL SHOW, then MAYBE whatever.

    I'm always seeing 12 year old kids out protecting people from harm, bringing peace, and, most importantly, ending disputes between two arguing sides. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO TELL ME THIS ISN'T BEING MATURE? His body may not be mature, yes, but he definitely ACTS MATURE. That's what some people, like yourself, NEVER understand. The creators have made it clear that relationships in the Avatar world start at an early age. As Wiselad pointed out, Yue was getting engaged in her young teens. In the time they're basing the series around, it was alright for couples to be formed at younger ages than it is now. Regardless of this show being aired on a kids tv station, its audience is definitely target more towards teens/young adults. Aang can definitely learn what love is; he's been through more than people his age or older, it's not like he's inexperienced in life or anything. Love is a part of life; he's seen it while traveling around the world, he knows what to expect and when it might occur. He was basically told by the Guru that Katara's the love of the Air Nomads reformed, Aang has no reason to deny him because of all the things Katara's done for him. Don't go saying what I say is bull when I actually have reasons behind it. And only saying one definition to a multiple meaning word is ridiculous; if you read down the list of definitions, you would find one relating to one that is "completed, perfected, or elaborated in full by the mind." It's pretty biased to say what a kid can and cannot do. There's many kids out there that can do amazing things that people twice, even three times their age cannot.
    For one thing, I can tell that you are a Kataanger, and I completely agree with your well-thought-out post. All I can say now, is that Zutara has the chance of 6 episodes to happen. Otherwise, Kataang wins the Shipping Wars!????
    In your dreams

    Or, more precisely, in Aang's dreams - cause thats the only place she kisses back

    Yeah....too tired from assignments to come up with anything more intelligent than that. Consider this my spammy 'zutara rules' post, or whatever *shrugs*
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    Blaster33456

    [135]Apr 28, 2008
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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Nickylucas wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    L0717 wrote:
    Valin610 wrote:
    vampys_girl wrote:
    diamond428 wrote:
    SgtHydra wrote:

    All you "Maikoers" are actually Kataangers who know that Maiko is the only thing preventing Zutara from happening.

    Even so, you are all forgetting this:

    This isn't a Kataang hug. Its too open for that. Kataang hugs are like a mother and her son. This is like two Adults, in a relationship or not. Its comforting, supportive, and most of all, intimate.

    Look at both people's expressions. Katara is clearly seeking comfrot from Zuko (for what, I can't say.)

    All you "Maikoers" and Kataangers are just dancing around the facts.

    Zutara is canon. And canon in a different way than Kataang or Maiko.

    This is not a crush. This isn't puppy love. This is a real ship.

    HAHAHAHAHA SO TRUE maikoers = kattangers (well for the most part i guess)
    This is not true. I support Maiko but not Kataang. Aang is too young for Katara, he is also too young to have a serious boyfriend girlfriend relationship. Aang has a crush on katara, that's all.
    How is Aang too young for her? 2 years is really TOO young? Aang is actually extremely mature for his age, I mean, if having to face the strongest being on the earth and saving the world isn't a mature action, PLEASE teach me maturity. 12 is definitely not too young to have a relationship; there's kids out there at age 8-10 going out. People make out Katara to be like she's 18 or something, but regardless of how she acts, she's always going to be only 2 years older than Aang. She HAS to act mature for her age, remember her life back home after her mother died and father left? Naturally, a girl her age will have a grasp on how to act mature when put under those circumstances. Aang has grown up a lot since the beginning of the show. His "crush" is definitely no longer one, but true love for Katara.

    all bull

    aang is not performing a mature action but is very brave and courageous. mature is, according to dictionary.com, fully developed in body or mind, as a person. so aang is definitely not mature.

    12 IS STILL A EFFING RETARDED AGE TO DATE. kids that ARE going out at the age of 8-10 is SH!TASTIC FU*KING STUPID.

    its still a crush. a kid does not know the true feeling of love. but maybe since this is a KIDS TV FICTIONAL SHOW, then MAYBE whatever.

    I'm always seeing 12 year old kids out protecting people from harm, bringing peace, and, most importantly, ending disputes between two arguing sides. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY GOING TO TELL ME THIS ISN'T BEING MATURE? His body may not be mature, yes, but he definitely ACTS MATURE. That's what some people, like yourself, NEVER understand. The creators have made it clear that relationships in the Avatar world start at an early age. As Wiselad pointed out, Yue was getting engaged in her young teens. In the time they're basing the series around, it was alright for couples to be formed at younger ages than it is now. Regardless of this show being aired on a kids tv station, its audience is definitely target more towards teens/young adults. Aang can definitely learn what love is; he's been through more than people his age or older, it's not like he's inexperienced in life or anything. Love is a part of life; he's seen it while traveling around the world, he knows what to expect and when it might occur. He was basically told by the Guru that Katara's the love of the Air Nomads reformed, Aang has no reason to deny him because of all the things Katara's done for him. Don't go saying what I say is bull when I actually have reasons behind it. And only saying one definition to a multiple meaning word is ridiculous; if you read down the list of definitions, you would find one relating to one that is "completed, perfected, or elaborated in full by the mind." It's pretty biased to say what a kid can and cannot do. There's many kids out there that can do amazing things that people twice, even three times their age cannot.
    For one thing, I can tell that you are a Kataanger, and I completely agree with your well-thought-out post. All I can say now, is that Zutara has the chance of 6 episodes to happen. Otherwise, Kataang wins the Shipping Wars!????
    In your dreams

    Or, more precisely, in Aang's dreams - cause thats the only place she kisses back

    Yeah....too tired from assignments to come up with anything more intelligent than that. Consider this my spammy 'zutara rules' post, or whatever *shrugs*


    Time to do my old school chant:

    One Hug, One Hug
    Making such a scene because of one hug.


    This sums up what Zutarians are relying on. Also I've seen 12 year olds at my school take relationships VERY Seriously (Not that sex seriously, you sick thinkers) but they care about the other person, and they have a full Knowing of what love is. What's it to you to put a brand on how old you're supposed to be to know love.
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    AnimeAngel90

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    Because if Zuko was the younger one, I'd bet you guys would use the exact same argument. yeah, Aang is maturing and whatnot, and yes, 12-year-olds can know love, but the fact remains that most people do not see 12-year-old relationships working out in real life, and that opinion transfers to the show. Also, making such a scene over an emotional hug between ZUKO and KATARA? Ok, seriously, has Zuko EVER hugged anyone besides his mum and girlfriend (and even then, Mai hugs weren't "complete", full-body hugs or whatever). No. Zuko does not do so good with awkward emotional moments. That much is obvious.

    If he was just surprised by the hug or whatever, I'm surprised he put his arms around her. Judging by past Zuko and kataanger opinion's of his opinions of Katara, he should just stand there awkwardly or something. Not return the hug. Its kinda weird for him to do that, partcularly as its Katara (who he supposedly couldn't care less about).

    And katara. Weren't you guys just saying a few episodes ago that she hated his guts? Makes it kinda weird for her to fly into his arms then, doesn't it?

    So yeah, we can make such a big deal because it is freaking ZUKO and KATARA hugging. Kataang hugs are old news - we expect them now, and its kinda obvious why they hug, being friends and whatnot. But for zutara....a hug pretty special for those two, regardless of the situation.
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    WiseLad

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    IF zuko was 12, I will say same things. ship doesn't equal sex. in the avatar world is like times in the old west, by age 14 boys were expected to already do chores at home, some even getting a job at a range being a cowboy. they see young boys going alone without any adults as no big deal,(the gaang) only reason they "caught Aang in the headband" was because he happened to be wearing school's uniform, not because his age.

    Zuko was sent as an exile and as captain of his own ship when he was 13
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    Valin610

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    AnimeAngel90 wrote:
    Because if Zuko was the younger one, I'd bet you guys would use the exact same argument. yeah, Aang is maturing and whatnot, and yes, 12-year-olds can know love, but the fact remains that most people do not see 12-year-old relationships working out in real life, and that opinion transfers to the show. Also, making such a scene over an emotional hug between ZUKO and KATARA? Ok, seriously, has Zuko EVER hugged anyone besides his mum and girlfriend (and even then, Mai hugs weren't "complete", full-body hugs or whatever). No. Zuko does not do so good with awkward emotional moments. That much is obvious.

    If he was just surprised by the hug or whatever, I'm surprised he put his arms around her. Judging by past Zuko and kataanger opinion's of his opinions of Katara, he should just stand there awkwardly or something. Not return the hug. Its kinda weird for him to do that, partcularly as its Katara (who he supposedly couldn't care less about).

    And katara. Weren't you guys just saying a few episodes ago that she hated his guts? Makes it kinda weird for her to fly into his arms then, doesn't it?

    So yeah, we can make such a big deal because it is freaking ZUKO and KATARA hugging. Kataang hugs are old news - we expect them now, and its kinda obvious why they hug, being friends and whatnot. But for zutara....a hug pretty special for those two, regardless of the situation.


    I would be alright with Zuko being the 12 year old STILL if they introduced the relationship between him and Katara as well as they have for Aang and Katara. I'm not a Zuko hater; he's actually right under Katara in my list of favorites (who is #1). I just dislike how it's considered Kataangers hate Zuko, when really, we just hate how false arguments are being made about the relationship with him and Katara.

    I'm not giving any input on the hug until we actually know the reasons for it; why Katara felt the need and what kind of intent was it for? It's still up for speculation, but I've done that a lot lately, I let this hug go by for now. Only the episode will tell us.

    I'm pretty sure you weren't refering to me about the hug thing, so that's why I didn't get into it. ^_^ But I did feel to say my thoughts on your "if Zuko was 12" argument.
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    hkulka2974

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    aalaois wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    aalaois wrote:
    If there was not meant to be more to come for Maiko, they wouldn't have used a line as powerful as "you miscalculated, I love zuko more than I fear you"... Azula's pretty scary, so that's reallly sayin something. you have to admit that this line alone indicates that there will at least be more storyline to come out of Mai and Zuko's relationship... it'd be a pretty dumb move to write Mai off into oblivion after that. no matter what you want to happen in the end, Mai has officially been cemented in as playing a part in Zuko's final status.

    we would probably end up with some weird love triangle, if there were more episodes, but there are two things wrong with Maiko right now

    1. May was not seen in any part of the trailer after the br

    2. May is trapped in the br

    and for those who say that May will escape because her father will let her out, dont count on it, i bet Azula will fire him in her anger.

    yes possibly but im saying that maiko is a sinking ship. because

    in the br:

    Azula(i think it was her):What are you doing?

    Mai: i'm rescuing the jerk who dumped me.

    I don't know how Mai will escape, but I do know Mike and Bryan are not stupid enough to put in that intense of a scene and then not have Mai show up ever again. If absolutely nothing else, when Zuko's placed on the thone to restore balance Mai will definitely be freed and there will have to be a scene between the two of 'em. I'm not saying they must get together, i'm saying there must be a scene... which actually likely means they will get together but if nothing else I'm absolutely convinced that it would be a travesty to the entire series to put that scene in the boiling rock and not have it mean something in the final episodes.

    one thing to think about if you still want to hate on Maiko but admit the obvious importance of Mai's saving of Zuko: Mai saved Zuko because she loves him and Ty Lee saved Mai because she's her friend... that doesn't mean either of them have any shred of a desire to retore balance to the world they just don't want the people they care about hurt/killed... perhaps Mai shows up as a temptress for Zuko to seize power and continue the Firenation's evil ways, so he has to give her up even though he cares about her and maybe even fight her in the end.

    going with the idea of meeting her again after being placed on the throne, perhaps she meets him and says "great, now the two of us can rule the world together" and he is tempted to do so because he loves her but has to throw her back in prison and ends up a tragically alone figure (or for you crazy zutarians, katara comes and comforts him and becames the fire queen)

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    hkulka2974

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    aalaois wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    aalaois wrote:
    If there was not meant to be more to come for Maiko, they wouldn't have used a line as powerful as "you miscalculated, I love zuko more than I fear you"... Azula's pretty scary, so that's reallly sayin something. you have to admit that this line alone indicates that there will at least be more storyline to come out of Mai and Zuko's relationship... it'd be a pretty dumb move to write Mai off into oblivion after that. no matter what you want to happen in the end, Mai has officially been cemented in as playing a part in Zuko's final status.

    we would probably end up with some weird love triangle, if there were more episodes, but there are two things wrong with Maiko right now

    1. May was not seen in any part of the trailer after the br

    2. May is trapped in the br

    and for those who say that May will escape because her father will let her out, dont count on it, i bet Azula will fire him in her anger.

    yes possibly but im saying that maiko is a sinking ship. because

    in the br:

    Azula(i think it was her):What are you doing?

    Mai: i'm rescuing the jerk who dumped me.

    I don't know how Mai will escape, but I do know Mike and Bryan are not stupid enough to put in that intense of a scene and then not have Mai show up ever again. If absolutely nothing else, when Zuko's placed on the thone to restore balance Mai will definitely be freed and there will have to be a scene between the two of 'em. I'm not saying they must get together, i'm saying there must be a scene... which actually likely means they will get together but if nothing else I'm absolutely convinced that it would be a travesty to the entire series to put that scene in the boiling rock and not have it mean something in the final episodes.

    one thing to think about if you still want to hate on Maiko but admit the obvious importance of Mai's saving of Zuko: Mai saved Zuko because she loves him and Ty Lee saved Mai because she's her friend... that doesn't mean either of them have any shred of a desire to retore balance to the world they just don't want the people they care about hurt/killed... perhaps Mai shows up as a temptress for Zuko to seize power and continue the Firenation's evil ways, so he has to give her up even though he cares about her and maybe even fight her in the end.

    going with the idea of meeting her again after being placed on the throne, perhaps she meets him and says "great, now the two of us can rule the world together" and he is tempted to do so because he loves her but has to throw her back in prison and ends up a tragically alone figure (or for you crazy zutarians, katara comes and comforts him and becames the fire queen)

    yes possibly but im saying that maiko is a sinking ship. because

    in the br:

    Azula(i think it was her):What are you doing?

    Mai: i'm rescuing the jerk who dumped me.

    sorry this part was in the quotes.=P

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