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Official Episode Discussion: The Earth King (Spoilers)

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    ZenNuklearPower

    [461]Nov 20, 2006
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    My last post for now.?? I forgot one thing:

    There was one piece of extremely symbolic imagery revolving aroung Zuko in this episode, other than the dreams. This was the situation of his thirst.?? Not just figurative, but his literal need for water in this episode.

    Hint, hint.
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    mellomuse

    [462]Nov 20, 2006
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    ZenNuklearPower wrote:
    My last post for now.?? I forgot one thing:

    There was one piece of extremely symbolic imagery revolving aroung Zuko in this episode, other than the dreams. This was the situation of his thirst.?? Not just figurative, but his literal need for water in this episode.

    Hint, hint.

    Yeah, between his drinking that whole bucket-full and washing his face... I almost expected his hands to start glowing when he stuck 'em in the basin!

    The Zaang thing might also??hint that??Zuko is??about to become a master bender.?? After all, the arrow does not mean Avatar per se- it means Master??Bender in the air nomad culture, and the air nomads seem to be the only ones to have a permanent symbol to distinguish its Masters from non-master benders.??

    Or maybe it means Zuko will help Aang (too obvious!).?? Or, maybe it's predicting that Zuko will become envious of Aang's 'do and decide to get an arrow of his own!

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    Maylene

    [463]Nov 20, 2006
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    ZenNuklearPower wrote:
    My last post for now.?? I forgot one thing:

    There was one piece of extremely symbolic imagery revolving aroung Zuko in this episode, other than the dreams. This was the situation of his thirst.?? Not just figurative, but his literal need for water in this episode.

    Hint, hint.


    ^__^ We'll see then... But that's a good guess.
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    masterofaeons

    [464]Nov 20, 2006
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:

    Sokka: [Quiet wisdom]
    Katara: [INDIGNANT RETORT, INSULT]
    Aang: [Bipolar pleasantness followed by LIMITLESS RAAAAGE!]
    Just a little from my perspective.


    Those are quite astute, what psychoanalytical one phrase review do you got for toph?


    Toph: [They call me Mello Yello]

    Sorry, I just blanked.
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    masterofaeons

    [465]Nov 20, 2006
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    the_mental_teen wrote:
    Also, Masterofaeons, that was a really funny thing, with you saying Katara was hugging Appa's butt, but I think that was one of the legs in the back.

    That's his tail.
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    SapphireStones

    [466]Nov 20, 2006
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    ZenNuklearPower wrote:
    My last post for now.?? I forgot one thing:

    There was one piece of extremely symbolic imagery revolving aroung Zuko in this episode, other than the dreams. This was the situation of his thirst.?? Not just figurative, but his literal need for water in this episode.

    Hint, hint.

    *Is confused*

    Sorry guys. But i am quite slow right now...lol
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    Maylene

    [467]Nov 20, 2006
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    SapphireStones wrote:
    ZenNuklearPower wrote:
    My last post for now.?? I forgot one thing:

    There was one piece of extremely symbolic imagery revolving aroung Zuko in this episode, other than the dreams. This was the situation of his thirst.?? Not just figurative, but his literal need for water in this episode.

    Hint, hint.

    *Is confused*

    Sorry guys. But i am quite slow right now...lol


    Water is representing Katara, for it is her element.
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    SapphireStones

    [468]Nov 20, 2006
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    Maylene wrote:
    SapphireStones wrote:
    ZenNuklearPower wrote:
    My last post for now.?? I forgot one thing:

    There was one piece of extremely symbolic imagery revolving aroung Zuko in this episode, other than the dreams. This was the situation of his thirst.?? Not just figurative, but his literal need for water in this episode.

    Hint, hint.

    *Is confused*

    Sorry guys. But i am quite slow right now...lol


    Water is representing Katara, for it is her element.

    Oh! Right! lol.

    Thanks!
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    Maylene

    [469]Nov 20, 2006
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    SapphireStones wrote:

    Oh! Right! lol.

    Thanks!


    You're welcome!
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    Zluvfreak2772

    [470]Nov 20, 2006
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    why is it that every time zuko gets near water it hints that zutara is going to happen.?? when he spilt all that water on him i though he was just thirsty, but??sometimes i'm??just clueless

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    whats-it

    [471]Nov 20, 2006
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    Well, Mike and Bryan enjoy giving us all these little hints and teasing out minds wondering if they really mean something or if we're just being tortured for no reason. I think there were a lot more references to water than in a lot of episodes, excluding the ones that had someone teaching waterbending or doing some attacks. So I think it wasn't unintended or teasing us just for the hell of it. The creators are having fun watching their fans ponder over such small things.
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    tico1125

    [472]Nov 21, 2006
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    Actually I just think that he was very thirsty and ill so the water went everywhere meanshile everyone is just reading into it too much.?? Just because the guy spills water on him it doesn't mean that he is going to get together with Katara.?? It just means that he is sick and uncoordinated.

    Sorry to spoil the fun.
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    Zluvfreak2772

    [473]Nov 21, 2006
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    i think the creators just like messing with us, but remember this is a nick show and i don't think they are going to make us look that much into it but i could be wrong.
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    mellomuse

    [474]Nov 21, 2006
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    I don't necessarily think that the water symbolism points specifically to a Zuko-Katara romance-- I was thinking deeper than that. Iroh said that Zuko's sickness was not natural (i.e. spiritual) and that he was fighting a war within himself because his decision to free Appa was so far at odds with his self-image.

    What is his self-image? Someone who is strong, a fighter, but also someone who is scarred, banished, less-favored, dishonored. He's tried to somehow fight his way back to honor by doing his father's bidding, but the scar and the shame still remain. He needs to be cleansed, he needs to be healed. He's dealt pretty well with his false pride lately, but he still needs to have his sense of shame washed away. And if his physical scar happens to get "washed away" by Katara's Spirit Water in the process, well....
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    DeathandDoom

    [475]Nov 21, 2006
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    ...or, more likely, the creators of Avatar put that scene in to show how feverish Zuko was, and are probably even now sitting at home going, "hints to Zutara? Where the heck did they get that from?"
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    1princess

    [476]Nov 21, 2006
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    Yes thats could lead their thier relationship into another level. i tried to force into my mind that Zukp and Katara were never going to becom attracted to another. but now i cant deny the obvious.
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    SapphireStones

    [477]Nov 21, 2006
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    tico1125 wrote:
    Actually I just think that he was very thirsty and ill so the water went everywhere meanshile everyone is just reading into it too much.?? Just because the guy spills water on him it doesn't mean that he is going to get together with Katara.?? It just means that he is sick and uncoordinated.

    Sorry to spoil the fun.

    No spoiled fun. As a Zutara shipper I can also say that him pouring water all over himself in a feverish state as he tried to drink it had NOTHING to do with her. Wait, people actually think it does?!
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    the_mental_teen

    [478]Nov 21, 2006
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    This epi had the best action so far in the season (with the fighting in the beginning) and some long-term problems solved (getting to the Earth King, Aang ALMOST telling Katara how he feels)
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    the_mental_teen

    [479]Nov 21, 2006
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    D@MN YOU SOKKA, D@MN YOU TO H3LL!!!
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    hermie_the_frog

    [480]Nov 21, 2006
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    the_mental_teen wrote:
    D@MN YOU SOKKA, D@MN YOU TO H3LL!!!

    Agreed. He's as bad as Tucker on Danny Phantom.

    I pity the fool who interrupts ooey-gooey moments.

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