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OFFICIAL DISCUSSION: is the avatar cycle broken?

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    gravity1690

    [81]Jan 3, 2007
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    idk i might be wrong but think about it..... wouldnt the creators of avatar kind of want it to be like that where aang has to defeat ozai WITHOUT the avatar state??? i personally think that if aang really did die and lost the AS that would play a major role and spice up the story....
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    Eman5805

    [82]Jan 3, 2007
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    How many times does it need to be said before it sinks in? Aang??did die. Azula killed him. Aang was no longer alive. But,??Katara was able to bring him back to life with the spirit oasis water. pooldude confirmed it(the guy has inside sources, who told him this, he brought us episode names WEEKS before the shows were even finished. This info is as legit as it gets.) It's true and I was right from the second that episode was over(hell me and a couple other people had a good long argument over this).

    Now onto the whole reincarnation cycle stuff, well Roku did say if Aang was killed in the Avatar State??it would be all over for the Avatar, however never said a single word about if Aang was brought back to life. Sounds like a loophole if there ever was one, and since I believe that much was said already I rest my case.

    Edited on 01/03/2007 10:04pm
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    gravity1690

    [83]Jan 3, 2007
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    yea... thats exactly what i was asking...
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    Master_0f_The_4

    [84]Jan 3, 2007
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    Aang never died, only mortaly wounded. Katara dosent have recirnation spells even with magical waters. It Dosent fit the water bending theme. Water Can Heal Not Bring Back Life.
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    Moxey15

    [85]Jan 4, 2007
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    There are other airbenders out there but they don't know how to bend yet
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    iceroyale

    [86]Jan 4, 2007
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    the avatar cycle isnt broken, cuz when aang is 'healed', we see his arrow glow
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    Eman5805

    [87]Jan 4, 2007
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    Master_0f_The_4 wrote:
    Aang never died, only mortaly wounded. Katara dosent have recirnation spells even with magical waters. It Dosent fit the water bending theme. Water Can Heal Not Bring Back Life.

    *sigh*?? How can someone be MORTALLY wounded and NOT die? Mortally wounded is??just another term for fatally wounded, so??when has someone on the news??ever said, "The burgler??fatally shot the officer.??He'll be fine..." Mortally wounded MEANS Aang died from that wound.??The??Spirit Oasis water??Pakku gave Katara had "special??properties"??so apparently??that includes??bringing back??the dead bridge between the??human and spirit world.??And??you're saying that in a show about people using kung fu to make impossible things happen, someone being brought back to life isn't unacceptable? That crosses the line of believablity???The creators of Avatar themselves said that Aang was dead at that point in the episode. Straight from the horses' mouth, as told by pooldude. And what waterbending??"theme"? Gonna have to??explain that too me...??

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    Master_0f_The_4

    [88]Jan 4, 2007
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    So Then All The Past Avatar Forms Died Then Came Back To Life I Guess Then Right? Or Mabey Avatar Roku Just Gives False Info.
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    Eman5805

    [89]Jan 4, 2007
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    Yeah, Avatar Roku said "If you(Aang)??are killed in the Avatar State, the reincaration cycle will be broken. And the Avatar will cease to exist." Well, he never said a single word about if Aang was brought back to life, now did he? Sounds like a loophole to me...
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    Master_0f_The_4

    [90]Jan 4, 2007
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    Yes he never said anything about it so why would A)It Even Happen Then
    B)The creaters of avatar leave out that info
    C)Watch Episode1 Earth Book. 'The avatar state'
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    Eman5805

    [91]Jan 4, 2007
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    Master_0f_The_4 wrote:
    Yes he never said anything about it so why would A)It Even Happen Then B)The creaters of avatar leave out that info C)Watch Episode1 Earth Book. 'The avatar state'

    Why would it even happen then? Why would the creators leave it out? Maybe cuz it's a plot device? They idea is that they don't??reveal everything to us, the viewers,??so they can throw in twists and turns to keep us guessing??and more interested.??And I've watched that episode many times my man...

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    Master_0f_The_4

    [92]Jan 4, 2007
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    Then You Should Know IF Aang Died All The Other Avatars Die Also.
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    Eman5805

    [93]Jan 4, 2007
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    Master_0f_The_4 wrote:
    Then You Should Know IF Aang Died All The Other Avatars Die Also.

    *smacks forehead* Oh Thug Mansions. Okay first off,??why are you captializing all your words? Secondly, I knew all??that already.?? (Also those other Avatars are already dead. So, they kinda can't die twice.) But anyway,??when Aang??enters the Avatar State, the past??lives of the Avatar??channel their spirit energy??through??his body.??The glow is the combination of all the Avatars' past lives, focusing their energies through Aang's body.??The glow is the Avatars becoming one with Aang.??How do I know they became one???Paying attention to??Roku's words.

    If??he is killed??with all??this??going on, the??energy is lost??along with Aang. Meaning??no more Avatar Spirit to??pass on along the cycle. However, Aang didn't stay dead.??If Aang is one with the past Avatars,??how could he??be alive, when the??Avatar Spirit is gone???Plus you saw his arrow glow, the Avatar Spirit??came back the same time he did, maybe even a split second before he did.??Any questions? Too bad. Cuz, I'm not bothering myself with explaining this anymore.

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    Master_0f_The_4

    [94]Jan 4, 2007
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    Avatar Roku: "Its time your learned.."

    "If you are??KILLED??in the avatar state the recarnation cycle WILL be broken and the avatar WILL seace to exist."

    You can take this anyway you want. This is just how i hear the words. I personnaly trust avatar roku's(And the creators) words over your long and lengthy explinations.

    Edited on 01/04/2007 9:09am
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    Eman5805

    [95]Jan 4, 2007
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    Master_0f_The_4 wrote:

    Avatar Roku: "Its time your learned.."

    "If you are??KILLED??in the avatar state the recarnation cycle WILL be broken and the avatar WILL seace to exist."

    You can take this anyway you want. This is just how i hear the words. I personnaly trust avatar roku's(And the creators) words over your long and lengthy explinations.

    Now I know what Sokka felt like in "Cave of Two Lovers." My forehead would be red if I wasn't black. I'm officially though messin' around with you.

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    Master_0f_The_4

    [96]Jan 4, 2007
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    You have nothing to say because my explinatons make sence. No pun intended.
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    Watershade

    [97]Jan 4, 2007
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    I'm really, really sorry, Master_Of_The_4, but they really, really don't.
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    supersonicfan01

    [98]Jan 4, 2007
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    Doesn't the nick site say Aang didn't really go into the avatar state cause Azula interfered?
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    Master_0f_The_4

    [99]Jan 4, 2007
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    If it does supersonicfan01, could you provide a link?
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    supersonicfan01

    [100]Jan 4, 2007
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    Don't ask ME about it, some Kataanger said it around the forum here.
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