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Im2Good

[4101]Jul 22, 2008

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speechless8582 wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

Im2Good wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

PDKT wrote:

The nice thing about fiction is that even when the writers write it one way, it does not mean it is the end-all be-all of the story, not to mention that what fans want is really no less right than what the writers create, it is impossible to say Zutara is stupid, and actually defend it, what Zutara is is different, less elaborated, to the point of almost non-existence, and, might I say, a little more romantic than Kataang, something sooo obvious is anti-climatic by the time the end arrives, you have been expecting it for so long it has lost all its romance, all its allure. In the end, you just say "its about time", then turn off your tv.

not to mention they made kataang cliche x10 with cheesy dialogue to go along with it. the little ratty 1st graders that a work with could have written that dialogue. Oh and this isn't an attack on kataang more than an attack on the writers. Tsk.

Ya kataang was very obvious which was a reason i dont like it

But then again, it is a kid's show and kids are dumb little shytes when it comes to relationships. So they probably had to make overly obvious. But seriously: BAD BAD WRITING.

bad writing? are you serious? *sigh* i give up.

I know he/she hates the show because zutara didnt happen but i still love the show regardless

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dantedones
[4102]Jul 22, 2008
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To me it seems like Zutara would seem more realistic in the real world, idk if its just me
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LondonParisNYC

[4103]Jul 22, 2008

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Im2Good wrote:

speechless8582 wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

Im2Good wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

PDKT wrote:

The nice thing about fiction is that even when the writers write it one way, it does not mean it is the end-all be-all of the story, not to mention that what fans want is really no less right than what the writers create, it is impossible to say Zutara is stupid, and actually defend it, what Zutara is is different, less elaborated, to the point of almost non-existence, and, might I say, a little more romantic than Kataang, something sooo obvious is anti-climatic by the time the end arrives, you have been expecting it for so long it has lost all its romance, all its allure. In the end, you just say "its about time", then turn off your tv.

not to mention they made kataang cliche x10 with cheesy dialogue to go along with it. the little ratty 1st graders that a work with could have written that dialogue. Oh and this isn't an attack on kataang more than an attack on the writers. Tsk.

Ya kataang was very obvious which was a reason i dont like it

But then again, it is a kid's show and kids are dumb little shytes when it comes to relationships. So they probably had to make overly obvious. But seriously: BAD BAD WRITING.

bad writing? are you serious? *sigh* i give up.

I know he/she hates the show because zutara didnt happen but i still love the show regardless

i don't hate it! wtf. I'm coming from a writer's aspect only, and from being a writer (well aspiring to say the least) no one in their right mind would make dialogue that ties together 3 season's of devolping a relationship so dry and predictable.

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LondonParisNYC
[4104]Jul 22, 2008
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dantedones wrote:

To me it seems like Zutara would seem more realistic in the real world, idk if its just me
i'm a zutara fan to max, don't get me wrong. but as a realionship like flower and chocolate and meeting under the pier at sunset, it unrealistic. its more realistic as an affair. which is why it would never work on a kid's show.
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dantedones

[4105]Jul 23, 2008

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LondonParisNYC wrote:

dantedones wrote:

To me it seems like Zutara would seem more realistic in the real world, idk if its just me

i'm a zutara fan to max, don't get me wrong. but as a realionship like flower and chocolate and meeting under the pier at sunset, it unrealistic. its more realistic as an affair. which is why it would never work on a kid's show.

yeah, its the damn kids, just gotta ruin everything

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LondonParisNYC

[4106]Jul 23, 2008

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dantedones wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

dantedones wrote:

To me it seems like Zutara would seem more realistic in the real world, idk if its just me

i'm a zutara fan to max, don't get me wrong. but as a realionship like flower and chocolate and meeting under the pier at sunset, it unrealistic. its more realistic as an affair. which is why it would never work on a kid's show.

yeah, its the damn kids, just gotta ruin everything

so so so so so so true. in a nutshell: kids are dumb shytes lol.

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dantedones

[4107]Jul 23, 2008

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LondonParisNYC wrote:

dantedones wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

dantedones wrote:

To me it seems like Zutara would seem more realistic in the real world, idk if its just me

i'm a zutara fan to max, don't get me wrong. but as a realionship like flower and chocolate and meeting under the pier at sunset, it unrealistic. its more realistic as an affair. which is why it would never work on a kid's show.

yeah, its the damn kids, just gotta ruin everything

so so so so so so true. in a nutshell: kids are dumb shytes lol.

they are the reason we can't have mature animated programming yet still appeal to them, so wanna be friends?

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LondonParisNYC

[4108]Jul 23, 2008

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dantedones wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

dantedones wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

dantedones wrote:

To me it seems like Zutara would seem more realistic in the real world, idk if its just me

i'm a zutara fan to max, don't get me wrong. but as a realionship like flower and chocolate and meeting under the pier at sunset, it unrealistic. its more realistic as an affair. which is why it would never work on a kid's show.

yeah, its the damn kids, just gotta ruin everything

so so so so so so true. in a nutshell: kids are dumb shytes lol.

they are the reason we can't have mature animated programming yet still appeal to them, so wanna be friends?

sure xD

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Chairunisa
[4109]Jul 23, 2008
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When the first time I saw Avatar show ( episode TGD season 1) I knew it that avatar is more than TV show for the Kids, so i buy the CD for full season 1 and season 2. From the beginning I am sure that Aang will end up with Katara so I am so exiting to wait the moment when their relationship become more real and life but no...up to final season there is no moment for Aang and Katara. Maybe there is one moment for Aang and katara at the HB but this is not enough and just has been crushed by next moments when katara told Aang about her feeling...and than there are "spark" moment between katara and zuko up to this I though B & M have something else but at the end .*sigh*..

It will be nice and good ( for me..) if there are a lot of moments between Aang and Katara as a progress of their relationship in the season 3 (mostly at the final episode) and I thought it will be the climax of the show when Aang can fulfill his destiny and get the love of his life...

But the end of Avatar ( from my point of view) is not so good. Fr ex. how about the avatar state, so suddenly can be solved by LT so how about the cakra?? and also about katara's feeling from confuse become so suddenly clear at the end w/out any process..
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LondonParisNYC

[4110]Jul 23, 2008

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Chairunisa wrote:

When the first time I saw Avatar show ( episode TGD season 1) I knew it that avatar is more than TV show for the Kids, so i buy the CD for full season 1 and season 2. From the beginning I am sure that Aang will end up with Katara so I am so exiting to wait the moment when their relationship become more real and life but no...up to final season there is no moment for Aang and Katara. Maybe there is one moment for Aang and katara at the HB but this is not enough and just has been crushed by next moments when katara told Aang about her feeling...and than there are "spark" moment between katara and zuko up to this I though B & M have something else but at the end .*sigh*.. It will be nice and good ( for me..) if there are a lot of moments between Aang and Katara as a progress of their relationship in the season 3 (mostly at the final episode) and I thought it will be the climax of the show when Aang can fulfill his destiny and get the love of his life... But the end of Avatar ( from my point of view) is not so good. Fr ex. how about the avatar state, so suddenly can be solved by LT so how about the cakra?? and also about katara's feeling from confuse become so suddenly clear at the end w/out any process..

O.k. Her feelings didn't really come out of no where, she just didn't discuss them allowd. it was probably some sort of internal thing. But the dialogue and writing in the last 5 minutes was cliche to the max.

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speechless8582

[4111]Jul 23, 2008

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LondonParisNYC wrote:

Chairunisa wrote:

When the first time I saw Avatar show ( episode TGD season 1) I knew it that avatar is more than TV show for the Kids, so i buy the CD for full season 1 and season 2. From the beginning I am sure that Aang will end up with Katara so I am so exiting to wait the moment when their relationship become more real and life but no...up to final season there is no moment for Aang and Katara. Maybe there is one moment for Aang and katara at the HB but this is not enough and just has been crushed by next moments when katara told Aang about her feeling...and than there are "spark" moment between katara and zuko up to this I though B & M have something else but at the end .*sigh*.. It will be nice and good ( for me..) if there are a lot of moments between Aang and Katara as a progress of their relationship in the season 3 (mostly at the final episode) and I thought it will be the climax of the show when Aang can fulfill his destiny and get the love of his life... But the end of Avatar ( from my point of view) is not so good. Fr ex. how about the avatar state, so suddenly can be solved by LT so how about the cakra?? and also about katara's feeling from confuse become so suddenly clear at the end w/out any process..

O.k. Her feelings didn't really come out of no where, she just didn't discuss them allowd. it was probably some sort of internal thing. But the dialogue and writing in the last 5 minutes was cliche to the max.

eh, i personally thought the ending was beautiful. They fought this whole time for peace, and they finally got what they deserved.

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LondonParisNYC

[4112]Jul 23, 2008

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speechless8582 wrote:

LondonParisNYC wrote:

Chairunisa wrote:

When the first time I saw Avatar show ( episode TGD season 1) I knew it that avatar is more than TV show for the Kids, so i buy the CD for full season 1 and season 2. From the beginning I am sure that Aang will end up with Katara so I am so exiting to wait the moment when their relationship become more real and life but no...up to final season there is no moment for Aang and Katara. Maybe there is one moment for Aang and katara at the HB but this is not enough and just has been crushed by next moments when katara told Aang about her feeling...and than there are "spark" moment between katara and zuko up to this I though B & M have something else but at the end .*sigh*.. It will be nice and good ( for me..) if there are a lot of moments between Aang and Katara as a progress of their relationship in the season 3 (mostly at the final episode) and I thought it will be the climax of the show when Aang can fulfill his destiny and get the love of his life... But the end of Avatar ( from my point of view) is not so good. Fr ex. how about the avatar state, so suddenly can be solved by LT so how about the cakra?? and also about katara's feeling from confuse become so suddenly clear at the end w/out any process..

O.k. Her feelings didn't really come out of no where, she just didn't discuss them allowd. it was probably some sort of internal thing. But the dialogue and writing in the last 5 minutes was cliche to the max.

eh, i personally thought the ending was beautiful. They fought this whole time for peace, and they finally got what they deserved.

what are you like my oppisite haha. yeah they fought the whole time and it was all cute, but because it was neatly packaged and all the lose ends were tied up the ribbon on the gift package was curled so nicly, it bubbled over with this sickly sweet cliche quality.

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speechless8582
[4113]Jul 23, 2008
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So it's not lettimg me quote you, but anyways-
they still left possibilities like Ursa open, so not all the lose ends were tied up. But i thought the ending was perfect. After everything they had been through and everything they had fought for, I thought it was a perfect ending. But i think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
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LondonParisNYC

[4114]Jul 23, 2008

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speechless8582 wrote:

So it's not lettimg me quote you, but anyways-

they still left possibilities like Ursa open, so not all the lose ends were tied up. But i thought the ending was perfect. After everything they had been through and everything they had fought for, I thought it was a perfect ending. But i think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

yeah definatly. i have to say your probably like the 5th person i've argued about the ending with lol.

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PDKT
[4115]Jul 23, 2008
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I agree, I mean I am sucker for a happy, romantic ending, and I would say that Aang and Katara DEFINITELY deserve love at the end...just not with each other, but, since that is way it went, I wish them all the luck my love of Zutara will allow!
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Chairunisa
[4116]Jul 23, 2008
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I know this so subjective but honestly why there are the moments between zuko and katara, like the B & M want to make e/body happy but to fail...I hope (I got info that there are mini series of avatar) B & M will undo the mistake and make the realtionship between Aang and Katara more real and life so the same with zuko and Mai even I know that Avatar is not romantic story but I can't help myself to see that the romatic parts is the fuel for the this show.
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KikitheFiend
[4117]Jul 23, 2008
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^All great loves have obstacles to overcome Zutara was just one Aang had to overcome. Flame me if you want, i don't really care.
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Chairunisa
[4118]Jul 23, 2008
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The funny thing ( from my point of me of course) that the zutara moment at the show just to give somebody ( including me) idea how zuko and katara can have perfect a fair he..he..
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music4life17

[4119]Jul 23, 2008

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Chairunisa wrote:

When the first time I saw Avatar show ( episode TGD season 1) I knew it that avatar is more than TV show for the Kids, so i buy the CD for full season 1 and season 2. From the beginning I am sure that Aang will end up with Katara so I am so exiting to wait the moment when their relationship become more real and life but no...up to final season there is no moment for Aang and Katara. Maybe there is one moment for Aang and katara at the HB but this is not enough and just has been crushed by next moments when katara told Aang about her feeling...and than there are "spark" moment between katara and zuko up to this I though B & M have something else but at the end .*sigh*.. It will be nice and good ( for me..) if there are a lot of moments between Aang and Katara as a progress of their relationship in the season 3 (mostly at the final episode) and I thought it will be the climax of the show when Aang can fulfill his destiny and get the love of his life... But the end of Avatar ( from my point of view) is not so good. Fr ex. how about the avatar state, so suddenly can be solved by LT so how about the cakra?? and also about katara's feeling from confuse become so suddenly clear at the end w/out any process..

Thank you for being an honest Kataanger!

I'm not saying there are more honest Kataangers out there but some refuse to see that there are some glitches to their own pairing. ( i.e: Katara's thought process on how she loves Aang) Both sides (Zutara and Kataang) have faults.

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kamzts
[4120]Jul 23, 2008
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Didnt the book have a more disciptive thing about the avatar state? I loved the ending for Kataang but im still wondering if she really was confused in the ember island players. maybe she wasnt maybe she didnt want to be with aang at the time becase she knew it would distract aang from defeating ozai (too late) but i still think she was unsure but it took her a while to be sure. (according to the book when kataang finally happens thats several months after the firelord is deveated)
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