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Official Character Relationship Discussion 4

Sokka ship?

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    music4life17

    [4161]Jul 24, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    Chairunisa wrote:

    Katara didnt like Aang kissing her in the episode EIP and there are no further explanation about her feeling...am I right? All I want that there are some explanation why katara had a reaction like that...it could be same as all mentioned reason in this forum ..such as Katara does not want to get hurt if Aang dont make it or something else..

    And when I said realistic level mean that like a building, that should be strong foundation at the first.

    Basically the writers need to make the road to Kataang bumpy, but they forgot to do that all season, so they just threw it in there. They don't care about shipping as much as some of the fans, so you'll notice that the relationships are cliche, and obvious.


    Agreed. It's quite sad how it seems a majority of people watched the show purely for pairing results and B & M wrote it mainly for the plot line. (I admit that I myself watched it both for the pairing results and just to see how things worked out)
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    CancerTheCrab

    [4162]Jul 25, 2008
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    music4life17 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Chairunisa wrote:

    Katara didnt like Aang kissing her in the episode EIP and there are no further explanation about her feeling...am I right? All I want that there are some explanation why katara had a reaction like that...it could be same as all mentioned reason in this forum ..such as Katara does not want to get hurt if Aang dont make it or something else..

    And when I said realistic level mean that like a building, that should be strong foundation at the first.

    Basically the writers need to make the road to Kataang bumpy, but they forgot to do that all season, so they just threw it in there. They don't care about shipping as much as some of the fans, so you'll notice that the relationships are cliche, and obvious.


    Agreed. It's quite sad how it seems a majority of people watched the show purely for pairing results and B & M wrote it mainly for the plot line. (I admit that I myself watched it both for the pairing results and just to see how things worked out)

    you know i didnt even care about shiping till i came here, its just been a fun bonus to the show
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    caseybocook

    [4163]Jul 25, 2008
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    I love the Kataang part myself but i also love finding pics like this.

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    DeeDuck33

    [4165]Jul 25, 2008
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    ^ That pic is win. Not everything has to be about shipping. ^_^
    Edited on 07/25/2008 6:54pm
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    EmoHaruno

    [4166]Jul 25, 2008
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    Although theres some Tokka action in the background there...

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    LondonParisNYC

    [4167]Jul 25, 2008
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    music4life17 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Chairunisa wrote:

    Katara didnt like Aang kissing her in the episode EIP and there are no further explanation about her feeling...am I right? All I want that there are some explanation why katara had a reaction like that...it could be same as all mentioned reason in this forum ..such as Katara does not want to get hurt if Aang dont make it or something else..

    And when I said realistic level mean that like a building, that should be strong foundation at the first.

    Basically the writers need to make the road to Kataang bumpy, but they forgot to do that all season, so they just threw it in there. They don't care about shipping as much as some of the fans, so you'll notice that the relationships are cliche, and obvious.
    Agreed. It's quite sad how it seems a majority of people watched the show purely for pairing results and B & M wrote it mainly for the plot line. (I admit that I myself watched it both for the pairing results and just to see how things worked out)

    Sadly, so did I =[

    then i kinda stopped caring about it.

    now i care again.

    oh the cirlce of life

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    suss2it

    [4168]Jul 26, 2008
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    Chairunisa wrote:
    maybe you are right about that but IMHO that the pairing take a big part of the show when Yue has to sacrifice her love for sokka for the piece of the world and also Aang has been given same choose in GURU episode..Mai make good dicision to be with zuko agains Azula..and also a little bit about Zuko and Jun..and also how first love of Katara should be crushed due to the war..
    Shipping is basically the bonus to an already good storyline. Yue's sacrifice was for dramatic purposes, and Sokka just added to that, they still could have pulled it off without Sokka.

    There is no Jun in Avatar, but if you're referring to June then yes they have shipping jokes, but you can't really say shipping is the main focus of the story.

    I agree that "shipping" does influence the plot of Avatar, but not nearly as much shows that actually focus on it.
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    music4life17

    [4169]Jul 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    Chairunisa wrote:
    maybe you are right about that but IMHO that the pairing take a big part of the show when Yue has to sacrifice her love for sokka for the piece of the world and also Aang has been given same choose in GURU episode..Mai make good dicision to be with zuko agains Azula..and also a little bit about Zuko and Jun..and also how first love of Katara should be crushed due to the war..
    Shipping is basically the bonus to an already good storyline. Yue's sacrifice was for dramatic purposes, and Sokka just added to that, they still could have pulled it off without Sokka.


    I agree. I think we all just get so worked up and on the defense by other shippers of other pairings that we forget that we should just enjoy the show for what it's worth.
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    suss2it

    [4170]Jul 26, 2008
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    DDenDong116 wrote:
    I have come to the conclusion that Katara is simply a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. Now, shocking as this may sound, believe me, I had trouble typing that first sentence. I have always been a devout Katara and Kataang fan. So, some of you may be saying, "Why are you complaining? Everything turned out as you Kataang fans wanted it." This is true, but it didn't happen the way I wanted it to.

    Both at the invasion and on Ember Island, when Aang kisses Katara, we all see the obvious hesitation. But why? BECAUSE SHE FEELS NOTHING FOR AANG. Now, this doesn't mean that I am supporting Zutara, because Katara feels nothing for Zuko either. But hear me out.

    Katara only gives her self to Aang AFTER AANG HAS SAVED THE WORLD, AND IS THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON ON THE PLANET. While at Ember Island, when Katara tells Aang she isn't ready to commit to him, it's because she doesn't know if Aang will win. She only wants the fame of being the girlfriend to the Avatar. Thus, Katara is a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger.

    *hides*

    I hope this offer the crazy Zutarians some sort of satisfaction.
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    EmoHaruno

    [4171]Jul 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    DDenDong116 wrote:
    I have come to the conclusion that Katara is simply a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. Now, shocking as this may sound, believe me, I had trouble typing that first sentence. I have always been a devout Katara and Kataang fan. So, some of you may be saying, "Why are you complaining? Everything turned out as you Kataang fans wanted it." This is true, but it didn't happen the way I wanted it to.

    Both at the invasion and on Ember Island, when Aang kisses Katara, we all see the obvious hesitation. But why? BECAUSE SHE FEELS NOTHING FOR AANG. Now, this doesn't mean that I am supporting Zutara, because Katara feels nothing for Zuko either. But hear me out.

    Katara only gives her self to Aang AFTER AANG HAS SAVED THE WORLD, AND IS THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON ON THE PLANET. While at Ember Island, when Katara tells Aang she isn't ready to commit to him, it's because she doesn't know if Aang will win. She only wants the fame of being the girlfriend to the Avatar. Thus, Katara is a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger.

    *hides*

    I hope this offer the crazy Zutarians some sort of satisfaction.

    More like laughs
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    ElysianGem

    [4172]Jul 26, 2008
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    EmoHaruno wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    DDenDong116 wrote:
    I have come to the conclusion that Katara is simply a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. Now, shocking as this may sound, believe me, I had trouble typing that first sentence. I have always been a devout Katara and Kataang fan. So, some of you may be saying, "Why are you complaining? Everything turned out as you Kataang fans wanted it." This is true, but it didn't happen the way I wanted it to. Both at the invasion and on Ember Island, when Aang kisses Katara, we all see the obvious hesitation. But why? BECAUSE SHE FEELS NOTHING FOR AANG. Now, this doesn't mean that I am supporting Zutara, because Katara feels nothing for Zuko either. But hear me out. Katara only gives her self to Aang AFTER AANG HAS SAVED THE WORLD, AND IS THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON ON THE PLANET. While at Ember Island, when Katara tells Aang she isn't ready to commit to him, it's because she doesn't know if Aang will win. She only wants the fame of being the girlfriend to the Avatar. Thus, Katara is a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. *hides*
    I hope this offer the crazy Zutarians some sort of satisfaction.
    More like laughs

    lol, omgwtfbbq.

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    azulasexxy

    [4173]Jul 26, 2008
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    i think suki and sokka wiill be the best one.
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    Axrendale

    [4174]Jul 26, 2008
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    DDenDong116 wrote:
    I have come to the conclusion that Katara is simply a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. Now, shocking as this may sound, believe me, I had trouble typing that first sentence. I have always been a devout Katara and Kataang fan. So, some of you may be saying, "Why are you complaining? Everything turned out as you Kataang fans wanted it." This is true, but it didn't happen the way I wanted it to. Both at the invasion and on Ember Island, when Aang kisses Katara, we all see the obvious hesitation. But why? BECAUSE SHE FEELS NOTHING FOR AANG. Now, this doesn't mean that I am supporting Zutara, because Katara feels nothing for Zuko either. But hear me out. Katara only gives her self to Aang AFTER AANG HAS SAVED THE WORLD, AND IS THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON ON THE PLANET. While at Ember Island, when Katara tells Aang she isn't ready to commit to him, it's because she doesn't know if Aang will win. She only wants the fame of being the girlfriend to the Avatar. Thus, Katara is a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. *hides*

    In all the thousands of posts in both this thread and the Kataang/Zutara battlefield threa, I have never come across anything that I have ever disagreed with more (okay, mabye I have disagreed with some things more, but this is still pretty ridiculous).

    We've all said this to the Zutarians, now we have to say this to doubting Kataangers: You have to be blind not to pick up on the fact that Katara has feelings for Aang long prior to the finale. The simple difference between Aang and Katara is that Katara has managed to get her head around the fact that they are in the middle of a war, and when saving the world and romancing with Aang clash with each-other, the romance takes second place to saving the world. That is what the Guru meant about Aang learning how to let go: he needed to understand (as Katara did) that he had to ignore his own personal needs in order to devote his entire being to the task he needed to fulfill.

    Perhaps it would be easy to simply compare the two concepts of Katara and see which one matches the Katara that we have seen developed over the course of the series:

    First there is a Katara who chooses to ignore her own feelings in order to do what she knows is right (letting go of her growing love for Aang to concentrate on the task at hand).

    Or there is a Katara who feigns false feelings for Aang in order to encourage him to remain interested in her so that if he wins she can pretend to fall in love with him to get the "fame of being the girlfriend of the avatar".

    Which one of those options sounds more like Katara to you?

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    Spacerac

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    I think that post was sarcastic.
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    raienbrasa

    [4176]Jul 26, 2008
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    BUT OMG, TEH LIETNINZ!!
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    utterlyrandom

    [4177]Jul 27, 2008
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    i agree that katara was CERTAINLY not a gold digger, but i can see where that view might have arisen from - the lack of character development in the final episode! i mean, i loved the kick-ass fight scenes and bending, etc....but we didn't learn anything new about anyone! it's was pretty much just a culmination and huge character reunion which went exactly where we were expecting. Then katara kisses aang at the end as a kind of add-on-finish-off-the-series-by-finally-getting-them together! I'm a huge kataang fan, but i was seriously craving some katara-anyone talk about her feelings for aang (rather than the random kiss at the end)
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    doomed_soul89

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    [QUOTE="suss2it"]
    DDenDong116 wrote:
    I have come to the conclusion that Katara is simply a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger. Now, shocking as this may sound, believe me, I had trouble typing that first sentence. I have always been a devout Katara and Kataang fan. So, some of you may be saying, "Why are you complaining? Everything turned out as you Kataang fans wanted it." This is true, but it didn't happen the way I wanted it to.

    Both at the invasion and on Ember Island, when Aang kisses Katara, we all see the obvious hesitation. But why? BECAUSE SHE FEELS NOTHING FOR AANG. Now, this doesn't mean that I am supporting Zutara, because Katara feels nothing for Zuko either. But hear me out.

    Katara only gives her self to Aang AFTER AANG HAS SAVED THE WORLD, AND IS THE MOST FAMOUS PERSON ON THE PLANET. While at Ember Island, when Katara tells Aang she isn't ready to commit to him, it's because she doesn't know if Aang will win. She only wants the fame of being the girlfriend to the Avatar. Thus, Katara is a shallow, attention-loving, gold digger.

    *hides*


    Um yea... it can't be that she's afraid aang is going to die and doesn't want to get too attrached or that she's worried about the war i mean if you want to call Katara shallow call her shallow for falling for 3-4 different guys over the course of the series while ignoring aang then getting with him after everyone else is taken/dead/gone but then again she might just be a slut who knows maybe she was doing jet and that earth bending guy she feel for and maybe even zuko it's not like she didn't have time and maybe she was just waiting for aang to grow a dick b4 dating him
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    timetoepic

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    PDKT wrote:
    Call me a cynic if you must, but I would have rather had Zuko realize feelings for Katara, then lose her to Aang, than be forced to choke down this Mai & Zuko relationship, at least then I could accept that at least there was a chance; I never really liked Mai, and the fact that she was part of a final pairing with Zuko leads me to believe I will probably never will...too bad, so sad.
    Wow, you are seriously going to dislike Mai because of that. It is sad.......sad you think Mai isn't great for Zuko despite seeing all sorts of character development and overall dynamics between the two. And as for Mai, she's my favorite character. She's tough, cool, independant, strong willed, open minded and can hold her own in a fight against benders and non benders. She's a badass, theres no reason to hate since we've seen her faults and her weaknesses. Mai might have been a bit boring in first apperance, but she grew to be a likeable character, I hate it when Zutarians have hatred for this character just because as she claims it "not as highstrung and crazy as most people" She's unqiue.

    Mai:You Miscaculated.

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    Chairunisa

    [4180]Jul 27, 2008
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    According to me, the good show will have full humanity which have balance in many aspect...in season 1,it's really..really the best season compare to the 2nd and 3rd ones..I can see how each characters have full humanity, so natural IMHO so go down on earth ...

    1) Aang : even he has been decided to be come no.1 binders on earth but he has fight to get the power..how so difficult to learn the fire.. ( and than the earth in season 2). He also has to face the reality even that he is 112 years old but he is still kid who has a problem with crush on the older girl whose consider he is just a little brother.And Aang just a boy who doest know about the current situation but he has to responsible and become a hope for the world..it's just like you wake up in the morning than you found out that there was a party at your home and you have to take care for cleaning the mess..

    so.. there are happiness when Aang met Katara, there are joy and fun when they starting to got for journey, there are sadness when Aang found out about the air people and monk G, there are angry when Aang face the reality of the war, and there are romance when Aang try to get the attention of katara..

    it's the same with others characters; same case with katara, sokka, zuko, even iroh has a romantic moment toward Jun..he..he..he..he is an old man but he is still a man...it just so natural and harmony...

    So I little bit not satisfied with flow story in the end of Avatar...where is harmony of the flow story??

    I do not care who will end up with who as long as there are good flow to be end like that way..

    So if B & M want to end up Aang and Katara so why there are no flow story to make the pairing so natural..?? to me it's seems that katara just a prize for Aang..sorry..just IMHO...
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