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I think Azula COULD dodge those walls of fire... And what if there is no comet? You keep basing the Fire battles on the comet...? What if this is an ordinary battle in an ordinary arena in an ordinary place...? Jeong Jeong wouldn't be able to create walls of fire THAT big, and even if he could, Azula has been shown (with EASE) to charge up her blue fire, and actually FLY (WITHOUT THE POWER OF THE COMET), AND ride it on the ground at intensely high speeds, one of these two things could ade her in avoiding the wall, which, without the comet, Jeong Jeong wouldn't even be able to make of that size... I think if Azula was concentrating and giving it her full zenith, she could either walk THREW that wall with her signature blue flames or dodge it, but I do think she is capable of dodging it... And Azula (once sane, and yes, I do believe she will gain her sanity back) will only increase in her power, and in a Katara/Pakku or a Toph/Bumi fashion completely surpass him. Azula is like the young, female version of Ozai... She is only going to get MORE powerful.

Toph feels the vibrations in the ground... I am not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but you keep constantly mentioning in your arguments, that Toph can't see flying boulders...? In "The Blind Bandit" MULTIPLE times does she display the ability to dodge or block flying-in-mid-air rocks... She feels the vibrations in the ground that these people are making with their body parts, and some how, some way, she KNOWS where the rocks are going to go, even when they are flying in the air... And don't come up with, "Those guys weren't very good Earthbenders" because that's not the case... Toph abilities being unique/pure greatness is the case. A perfect example of Toph being able to sense "flying rocks"/boulders (their the same thing really) is when Xin Fu attacked her with a series of presumably strong, fairly large rocks, she just blocked them off with ease... I'm not saying her and Bumi's fight would be "easy" for her at all (Any smart Avatard knows it wouldn't be), but Earthbenders are Human Beings and Animals (Badgermoles) THAT NEED to be in COMPLETE contact with the ground in order to Earthbend, Bumi would need to make contact with the ground, to throw the boulders at her. Something about her senses has enabled her to know WHERE the rocks and boulders are going to go, even when they are flying in her main weakness, Air. Don't forget she also has remarkable hearing. She would be able to block off these boulders, because Toph knows where they are going to go, sometimes before her own opponent does. Yeah sure Bumi's face is a great concentrating factor for attracting rocks, but I think he is going to need more than that against the girl who created Metal-Bending (just had to add that ). And yes, it is uber that Bumi blocked Firebending attacks during the comet, but so did Toph, in the one of the BEST yet SHORTEST Avatar fight scenes ever... The way she covered herself in Metal like that, was just amazing... I find it fascinating that she went from being able to rip open a metal cage, to being able to imitate Iron Man with pure ease (concentration, but ease). She blocked of just as much or MORE Comet-Empowered Firebending attacks that Bumi did, except she didn't need to make giant towers of rock to do so... She simply covered herself in a body of metal and easily owned them all, Although the rock tower is harder to block that fire, than metal is, so Bumi's wins that argument... Just trying to say he is not the ONLY Earthbender who blocked Comet-Firebending attacks in the finale. Toph can swim threw the earth just as easily as Bumi can... Did you see "The Drill"? The only reason she took long travelling threw the earth was because she was guiding Aang, Katara and Sokka, who couldn't see a THING. I also don't think Bumi beats Toph in "traditional" Earthbending... Toph SEES with "traditional" Earthbending, it's her way of communicating with the world, and she learned from the originals... Badgermoles. And it's not that Bumi couldn't beat Boulder and Hippo just as easily as Toph did, but it's the unique, gifted way in which she beat them, that in my opinion makes her better than Bumi... Let's not forget, Toph is 100 years younger than Bumi, so if you don't agree with me, at least give her props for being able to rival the abilities of someone a century older than her.

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I think Azula COULD dodge those walls of fire... And what if there is no comet? You keep basing the Fire battles on the comet...? What if this is an ordinary battle in an ordinary arena in an ordinary place...? Jeong Jeong wouldn't be able to create walls of fire THAT big, and even if he could, Azula has been shown (with EASE) to charge up her blue fire, and actually FLY (WITHOUT THE POWER OF THE COMET), AND ride it on the ground at intensely high speeds, one of these two things could ade her in avoiding the wall, which, without the comet, Jeong Jeong wouldn't even be able to make of that size... I think if Azula was concentrating and giving it her full zenith, she could either walk THREW that wall with her signature blue flames or dodge it, but I do think she is capable of dodging it... And Azula (once sane, and yes, I do believe she will gain her sanity back) will only increase in her power, and in a Katara/Pakku or a Toph/Bumi fashion completely surpass him. Azula is like the young, female version of Ozai... She is only going to get MORE powerful.

Toph feels the vibrations in the ground... I am not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but you keep constantly mentioning in your arguments, that Toph can't see flying boulders...? In "The Blind Bandit" MULTIPLE times does she display the ability to dodge or block flying-in-mid-air rocks... She feels the vibrations in the ground that these people are making with their body parts, and some how, some way, she KNOWS where the rocks are going to go, even when they are flying in the air... And don't come up with, "Those guys weren't very good Earthbenders" because that's not the case... Toph abilities being unique/pure greatness is the case. A perfect example of Toph being able to sense "flying rocks"/boulders (their the same thing really) is when Xin Fu attacked her with a series of presumably strong, fairly large rocks, she just blocked them off with ease... I'm not saying her and Bumi's fight would be "easy" for her at all (Any smart Avatard knows it wouldn't be), but Earthbenders are Human Beings and Animals (Badgermoles) THAT NEED to be in COMPLETE contact with the ground in order to Earthbend, Bumi would need to make contact with the ground, to throw the boulders at her. Something about her senses has enabled her to know WHERE the rocks and boulders are going to go, even when they are flying in her main weakness, Air. Don't forget she also has remarkable hearing. She would be able to block off these boulders, because Toph knows where they are going to go, sometimes before her own opponent does. Yeah sure Bumi's face is a great concentrating factor for attracting rocks, but I think he is going to need more than that against the girl who created Metal-Bending (just had to add that ). And yes, it is uber that Bumi blocked Firebending attacks during the comet, but so did Toph, in the one of the BEST yet SHORTEST Avatar fight scenes ever... The way she covered herself in Metal like that, was just amazing... I find it fascinating that she went from being able to rip open a metal cage, to being able to imitate Iron Man with pure ease (concentration, but ease). She blocked of just as much or MORE Comet-Empowered Firebending attacks that Bumi did, except she didn't need to make giant towers of rock to do so... She simply covered herself in a body of metal and easily owned them all, Although the rock tower is harder to block that fire, than metal is, so Bumi's wins that argument... Just trying to say he is not the ONLY Earthbender who blocked Comet-Firebending attacks in the finale. Toph can swim threw the earth just as easily as Bumi can... Did you see "The Drill"? The only reason she took long travelling threw the earth was because she was guiding Aang, Katara and Sokka, who couldn't see a THING. I also don't think Bumi beats Toph in "traditional" Earthbending... Toph SEES with "traditional" Earthbending, it's her way of communicating with the world, and she learned from the originals... Badgermoles. And it's not that Bumi couldn't beat Boulder and Hippo just as easily as Toph did, but it's the unique, gifted way in which she beat them, that in my opinion makes her better than Bumi... Let's not forget, Toph is 100 years younger than Bumi, so if you don't agree with me, at least give her props for being able to rival the abilities of someone a century older than her.

Bumi is a mad genius, but that doesn't make him better than Toph, because Toph's quite a genius herself, look at all the things she's done and accomplished as a 12 year old Earthbender: From single-handedly (might be an exageration, but she didn't seem to find it hard) taking out the Dai Li, descendants from warriors who were trained in Earthbendeing by AVATAR Kyoshi... She created (yes I have mentioned this before but this is as impressive as Earthbending gets) METAL-BENDING. She learned directly from The Badgermoles at a young age, and they were the true orginals etc... All this and she is a 12 year old blind girl. Yes Bumi has 100 years more experience than Toph, but how many Earthbenders has Toph faced that have more experience than her or are generally older than she is? Did you actually see what she did to all those men in "The Blind Bandit"? I'm guessing they were all 2-3 decades older than she is, and she has owned every single one of them, both individually, and at the same time. I know 3 decades doesn't compare to 100 years, but the point I'm trying to make is that the girl is capable of surpassing people with years more experience than her, whether it be easy or hard, she has shown this ability SEVERAL times.

And yes, scientifically speaking Metal is a very good heat conductor, but Toph is a tough girl, she isn't what she seems or what she looks like, and I think she is capable as a Human Being and an Earthbender of taking alot of punishment and endurance... Whatever that metal is or did scientifically, it obviously didn't affect her because that scene was a cakewalk for her and she stepped out of her metal attire with a tough, yet easy expression on her face, so whatever that metal was supposed to do realistically speaking, it didn't happen, and she kicked several comet-empowered-Firebenders' asses in the process. Earthbenders are known for the amount of endurance they are able to take, I'm guessing both physically and mentally (Just had to add that ). So, Toph wins, but it will be her highest challenge yet, but that is still, simply how it would go down in my opinion.

Also, what did you say about Katara and Pakku? Pakku would get owned by Katara on land, end of discussion. Katara has been shown to be able to physically pull the water out of any nearby types of plants... Pakku hasn't, so Katara wins, he has grown up in the North Pole his entire life, and he has never stepped foot into a place like the swamp... Until I see Pakku amazingly take the water out of even an inch of grass, Katara wins when there is plants near-by. I'm also going to change my argument, and say she would give him the fight of his life near the sea and ocean... Call me as crazy as you want, but the fact that Katara was able to give him that much of a challenge (I don't care if he was holding back, Katara had only learned the "Water Whip" 2 months before that) when she had no knowledge of what he or even herself was capable of, and when she hadn't even been physically trained as a Waterbender... Makes you wonder what she is capable of at the VERY end of Book 3 that we don't know about... Katara wins on land, gives him a hell of a battle near the sea and ocean, loses with pride at either of the poles, and owningly surpasses him in 2-4 years time.

I would LOVE to see Bumi CREATE THE ABILITY TO METAL-BEND at the young age of 12, or single-handedly own the Dai Li (Direct descendants of the earthbending warriors who were physically trained by AVATAR KYOSHI), or sense where rocks/boulders are going to go in the air, before his own opponents do, or cover himself in an Iron Man/Colossus-like outfit of pure metal, after presumably a few months of even knowing he is capable of controlling the material. The skills of an Earthbender doesn't lye in the sheer strength of their muscles like everyone would think it does. He can lift all the tons he wants, that isn't really going to be a big help in this battle, especially considering we don't even know if Toph is capable of lifting that exact same amount... Yeah it's unlikely, but it's sure as hell not impossible. And Fire and Earth are two completely different elements, both in their universe, and, in realistic science/our universe. They have two completely different original benders. Knowing how the Dragons conjure up fire COULD be completely different to studying how Badgermoles control the earth. They are two different creatures in two different civilizations and are the original benders of two different elements. Just because the original art of Firebending isn't the most powerful technique for Firebenders, doesn't mean we can say the same for the original art of Earthbending not being the most powerful technique for Earthbenders. Knowing the original source of either of them could mean two different things, and although I am probably completely and utterly wrong on that part lol, we don't know for sure what it means, and we could find out in the next Avatar (if there is one). The difference is, we don't know if Toph is capable of bending that amount of Earth, in a similar fashion to not knowing/seeing how fast Azula can create lightning, so we are not really in the position to say whether or not Toph can bend that amount, because she very well could be capable of it, especially considering it's metal properties. But like we know Jeong Jeong can't make lightning or blue fire to compete with Azula, or, like we know Pakku can't heal, plant-bend OR blood-bend to compete with Katara, we also know Bumi can't metal-bend to compete with Toph, and like Electricity/Lightning for Fire or Blood and Healing for Water, Metal is the ultimate thing for Earth, and if there was any metal around, I think Bumi would lose. Well, I think he would lose even if there WASN'T metal around, Toph sees with earthbending, it's not just some Martial Art to her like it is to others, it's he way of communicating with the world. Although I love Bumi, I do, and will always, think Toph is his superior. If she isn't, then like Katara/Pakku or Azula/Ozai she will surpass him GREATLY in years to come, and that's a fact.

Experience? Katara has 5+ decades less experience than Hama (I don't care how powerful people think she is, she CREATED BLOOD-BENDING and discovered Plantbending by herself) and she deafeated her (and Katara knows every single form of Waterbending, Pakku cannot compete with that), Zuko is a couple decades less experienced than Zhao and he beat him when he wasn't even that good of a Firebender, Toph beat about 10 guys, both individually and at the same time, and they all had to have been about 2-4 decades older than her (please note that she did this with EASE), Toph also beat the Dai Li, all men who are decades older than she is (who's style originates from something an AVATAR teached them), Azula ownes Jeong Jeong in my, Axrendale's and isabelwhatx's opinion, and he has been a master/legend since before she was born and had experience in the army (is also the only known person to walk away from the army and LIVE)... Experience doesn't really mean anything in these particular situations, it's the sheer, cunning intelligence that will decide the outcome of all three of these fantastic battles.

I love this debate, you guys make BRILLIANT points, it's VERY fun!