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libraman_92 wrote: | ||
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No. That is the incorrect view of firebending that has weakened Firebending as a whole (sorry TitanPredator, but Jeong Jeong was wrong). We learned from the Sun Warriors that fire is life. The art of firebending is the manipulation of energy, pure and simple. That is why lightning is considered a pure expression of firebending.
Fire is life! And where would we be without life?
Breaker94 wrote: |
teh most powerful benders are the white lotus |
Ozai is not in the OWL, but he is more powerful than Iroh, and everyone else in the order.
Axrendale wrote: |
Is that so Isabel? Wy don't we go to Libramans new thread and find out how strong the Earth Kingdom really is? |
I was actually talking about experience in general, but that's over now.
Fire might just be my favourite... They can bend different colours of Fire, as seen in "The Firebending Masters", fire is not just limited to normal fire or blue fire. In that episode we saw just about every colour imaginable... Different shades of red, yellow, orange (The three original colours), blue (The fire we thought was the limit), green, purple, pink, and even huge traces of white. So the fact that there are actually many colours of fire beyond ordinary fire and blue fire, just makes the element that much more interesting and artistic. Plus, who wouldn't want the power of Electricity and Lightning???? That just makes fire's superiority official. Think what you would be capable of if you had the ability to create, manipulate and control Electricity... It would be incredible, especially in modern times. And as if it doesn't get any better, if you were a truly powerful Firebender, you would have the ability to control and manipulate Lava and Magma... Firebenders can also fly greatly using fire as a jet, during the comet, Azula has been shown to fly without the comet, with her blue fire acting as jet. It would be amazing to have that kind of power...
Water is a very close second... For a long time it was my favourite element. To have the remarkable ability to heal, both themselves and other people would be sweet. Whether is be a bruise, cut or wunde, or whether it be to heal someone on the verge of dying, they can heal almost any living thing, hell, they can even heal someone who has been brain-washed. Ice, Frost and Snow are amazing, and they can also manipulate Vapour... This could range from Steam, Mist, Fog and even Clouds. As if that isn't awesome, they can manipulate, and control plants. This ranges from grass, seaweed, flowers, plants, vines, bushes, trees and maybe even cactus etc. The plant monster Huu create's is greatness aswell... What is better than a giant monster made out of vines, with a mask/face made out of Wood? And think of all the waves you could create... Light waves, tidal waves, even tsunami's if you are powerful enough. I don't really think I need to mention how amazing Blood-Bending is...
Earth is a close, close third. You could use it for so many different, incredible things. Like TitanPredator mentioned, you could build houses for yourself and other people, and all sorts of other buildings. You could build shops, houses, mansions, and virtually anything you wanted. You could create pyramids or write your name in the ground. You could hide from people in the walls or in the ground, and you could even travel underground. It is amazing for both offense and defense, and considering Earthbenders are known to be pretty strong people, you could lift heavy objects. It's a great element.
LOL, I missed out Air, I wasn't really thinking.
But it is the element that would most fit me. I tend to be quite a jumpy, active person... Even though I am a Sagitarius (Fire sign) I do fit Air based on the things I do. Acrobatics, running, dancing and trampolining are the 4 sports I do the most. I think if I was an actual bender, Air would probably fit me more than Water or Fire. It's a great element, it's what we use to breathe and Aang has shown many great moves and techniques with it. The ability to fly or levitate on a regular basis is a great, almost dream ability to have, and running super-fast would be amazing too. Being able to run at high speeds and fly is probably what would fit me the most. It's an amazing element, and it's a shame we didn't see special abilities within the bending art... Like, Water got healing and blood-bending, Fire got Electricity/Lightning (and a Fire Avatar has been shown to be able to bend Lava and Magma), Earth got Metal... Air didn't really get anything, which is a shame.
Axrendale wrote: | ||||
No. That is the incorrect view of firebending that has weakened Firebending as a whole (sorry TitanPredator, but Jeong Jeong was wrong). We learned from the Sun Warriors that fire is life. The art of firebending is the manipulation of energy, pure and simple. That is why lightning is considered a pure expression of firebending. Fire is life! And where would we be without life? |
Well, I know Jeong Jeong was wrong now. But that doesn't make him weaker. Ozai for example is stronger than Iroh and Zuko, while they know the original way. So the original way isn't stronger. Because there is no difference. The thing is that the Suno Warriors KNOW fire is life and comes from the inner drive. The firenation army THINKS it comes from anger. So it doesn't realy make a difference. Take Zuko for example, when he had no inner drive left, his fire became very bad. That was because he had no inner drive left. Later the Sun Warriors explained to him why that was. So the only difference is that the Sun Warriors and Iroh, Zuko and Aang know it.
isabelwhatx wrote: |
The original way of fire bending does increase your power. All because Zuko hasn't surpassed Ozai doesn't mean he didn't become stronger at all. The OWOFB (haha my abbreviation for original way of fire bending) increases your power, but doesn't make you all powerful. If Ozai were to learn the OWOFB then he would become unbelievably powerful. |
What makes you believe that? Maybe Zuko just became more powerfull because his inner drive became stronger. Maybe his drive to help Aang was stronger than his drive of chasing him.
TitanPredator wrote: | ||
What makes you believe that? Maybe Zuko just became more powerfull because his inner drive became stronger. Maybe his drive to help Aang was stronger than his drive of chasing him. |
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Original way may be better, but I don't think it alway makes you more powerfull.
And who is Oma?
TitanPredator wrote: | ||
What makes you believe that? Maybe Zuko just became more powerfull because his inner drive became stronger. Maybe his drive to help Aang was stronger than his drive of chasing him. |
Original firebending must be more powerful than regular firebending - otherwise what would be the point of differentiating between the two? The correct, natural way of firebending is portrayed as being the better alternative to the hate-fueled kind. That's why, for the last ten pages of argument, post FBM Zuko has been ranked above pre FBM Zuko - he has learned new, more powerful firebending. Also notable is the fact that before FBM Zuko's fire was far weaker than Azula's blue fire, after FBM, the flames seemed about equal in strength. The reason Ozai was stronger despite his weaker bending was his superior control and mastery of technique (the sane reason that jeong jeong is so powerful depite the fact that he doesn't know OF either). If Ozai and Azula had known original firebending, they would have been so ridiculously powerful that it's not funny.
TitanPredator wrote: | ||||||
Original way may be better, but I don't think it alway makes you more powerfull. And who is Oma? |
One of the main points of FBM was the superiority of OF. There has been no comment on OE.
Oma was one of the two lovers (the other was Shu) who learned Earthbending from the badger-moles and became one of the first earthbenders (see episode 202).
lilaznfromabove wrote: |
I've been reading what you've guys been talking about and you guys are both kinda right. What titanpredator is trying to say that the drive is more by how big your self resolve is then your emotional thoughts and feelings that you have while your bending. Like you see with jeong-Jeong his resolve is that you don't need to have any such emotion to draw upon your bending ability, but more of the need to call upon it but the twisted thoughts or well character of his is just like when aang burnt katara's hands with his uncontrolled firebending. jeong-Jeong doesn't want to hurt anybody because he doesn't know his own limits that's why he left the army its mostly likely because he hurt a lot of people and saw the damage he caused.and he wanted to repent for it by training aang and fighting the fire army. Thats why he said that's why he wished for katara's healing ability with waterbending when he saw her heal her hands with it so that he could heal all the pain that he caused during the war. sorry for interrupting your conversation just trying to set things straight since Jeong-Jeong is the number2 best firebender and Iroh is Number 1 Jasmine tea all the way. |
I'd disagree with that statement. But as has been pointed out, we really need to get off the topic of most powerful firebenders.
My ranking:
1. Fire is the best!
2. I can't decide between Water or Air...?
3 Earth is still awesome.