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    isabelwhatx

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.
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    isabelwhatx

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    Death_Bro wrote:

    Fire: I would probably say Ozai because Iroh's just too old, and if Jeong Jeong was stronger than they would have gone to him to defeat the fire lord instead of Iroh.

    Water: We havent seen Pakku fight to his best, but Katara is the best one we've seen,

    Earth: I'd say Bumi is a better Bender than toph, (he's had 100 years of practice), Toph can do some things that he cant (metal bending and see with the ground) but his bending is over all

    No, it wouldn't matter if Jeong Jeong was strong enough to defeat the Fire Lord. Iroh specifically explained that it wasn't his job or anyone elses to defeat the Fire Lord except for the Avatar.
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    jakeman3025

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    earth toph or boomie
    fire ozai at least use to be.
    water puko or katara
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    IrohtheTea

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    theres enough thread about this
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    isabelwhatx

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    This one is already past 40 posts, so it doesn't matter anymore.
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    doomed_soul89

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp
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    Sychtriatric

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    Well lets see, anyone with a name that can bend? If your name is Earthbender #1 you're not even close to the strongest.
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    isabelwhatx

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp

    Not true. Just as Pakku would, Azula used her water to "skate" across the ice. Pakku would've been just as fast. A good waterbender could do something like that easily. There was no remarkably good waterbending done then.
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    doomed_soul89

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp

    Not true. Just as Pakku would, Azula used her water to "skate" across the ice. Pakku would've been just as fast. A good waterbender could do something like that easily. There was no remarkably good waterbending done then.

    that's my point pakku is old and slow he can do advance techniques but he's not as quick with the basics as katara is
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    isabelwhatx

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp

    Not true. Just as Pakku would, Azula used her water to "skate" across the ice. Pakku would've been just as fast. A good waterbender could do something like that easily. There was no remarkably good waterbending done then.

    that's my point pakku is old and slow he can do advance techniques but he's not as quick with the basics as katara is

    What proof do you have of that?
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    doomed_soul89

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp

    Not true. Just as Pakku would, Azula used her water to "skate" across the ice. Pakku would've been just as fast. A good waterbender could do something like that easily. There was no remarkably good waterbending done then.

    that's my point pakku is old and slow he can do advance techniques but he's not as quick with the basics as katara is

    What proof do you have of that?

    his fight with katara, she was way faster then him he needed to use advance techniques on her most basic to beat her
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    fire: 1. azula 2. zuko 3. iroh

    earth: 1. toph 2. bumi 3. boulder (cuz he's cool)

    water: 1. katara 2. paku 3. hammah

    air: 1. aang 2. aang 3. aang

    water, earth, fire, and air: AANG!!!!

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp

    Not true. Just as Pakku would, Azula used her water to "skate" across the ice. Pakku would've been just as fast. A good waterbender could do something like that easily. There was no remarkably good waterbending done then.

    that's my point pakku is old and slow he can do advance techniques but he's not as quick with the basics as katara is

    What proof do you have of that?

    his fight with katara, she was way faster then him he needed to use advance techniques on her most basic to beat her

    He wasn't using his full potential.
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    doomed_soul89

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    oh come on water isn't even close, katara was holding her own against pakku before she even had a teacher and she can blood bend and can freeze alot of water at once (no one else is shown freezing water besides katara) and she is great with making using both the advance and the basics in combat, she beat azula during the comet and pakku really didn't even do that much at all

    I agree that Katara is stronger, but your reasoning doesn't make sense. We haven't been exposed to that many waterbenders, and I believe we have seen Pakku freeze water. I could be wrong, though. Also, we didn't see much of Pakku so you can't assume he didn't do much. Pakku also uses advanced techniques in waterbending. He taught Katara. You have to be amazing at something in order to teach it. We don't know if Pakku could beat Azula or not, but I'm pretty sure he could. It wasn't a matter of strength, but just of using your surroundings to help you.

    um yeah no, pakku would of gotten wasted by azula the only reason katara even won was because she was so worried about zuko and she didn't want a repeat of jet

    I don't think Jet played into the finale. She was purely worried about Zuko. And I don't think that Pakku would've gotten "wasted" by Azula. Azula only had brute strength on her side during the finale. Pakku is smart, he'd use his surroundings to help himself out. Azula wouldn't have enough technique and strategy at the time to defeat Pakku.

    nah Pakku is too slow he woulda gotten hit by azula's second attack and burned to a crisp

    Not true. Just as Pakku would, Azula used her water to "skate" across the ice. Pakku would've been just as fast. A good waterbender could do something like that easily. There was no remarkably good waterbending done then.

    that's my point pakku is old and slow he can do advance techniques but he's not as quick with the basics as katara is

    What proof do you have of that?

    his fight with katara, she was way faster then him he needed to use advance techniques on her most basic to beat her

    He wasn't using his full potential.

    no but he was going as fast as he could
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    isabelwhatx

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    That's an assumption. You can't assume things. As far as we know, Pakku wasn't fighting as well as he could. That also applies to his speed. Plus, speed, anyway, doesn't make you a greater waterbender, it just allows you to evade attacks better. It has nothing to do with skill but luck and age.
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    doomed_soul89

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    That's an assumption. You can't assume things. As far as we know, Pakku wasn't fighting as well as he could. That also applies to his speed. Plus, speed, anyway, doesn't make you a greater waterbender, it just allows you to evade attacks better. It has nothing to do with skill but luck and age.

    um if it takes you 3 seconds longer to throw the water your a less good water bender besides if you go that way he can't blood bend so katara wins by default
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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    That's an assumption. You can't assume things. As far as we know, Pakku wasn't fighting as well as he could. That also applies to his speed. Plus, speed, anyway, doesn't make you a greater waterbender, it just allows you to evade attacks better. It has nothing to do with skill but luck and age.

    um if it takes you 3 seconds longer to throw the water your a less good water bender besides if you go that way he can't blood bend so katara wins by default

    Absolutely not. He has even been informed of blood bending. I'm sure he could pull it off if someone like Hama could. She was just a regular water bender.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    That's an assumption. You can't assume things. As far as we know, Pakku wasn't fighting as well as he could. That also applies to his speed. Plus, speed, anyway, doesn't make you a greater waterbender, it just allows you to evade attacks better. It has nothing to do with skill but luck and age.

    um if it takes you 3 seconds longer to throw the water your a less good water bender besides if you go that way he can't blood bend so katara wins by default

    Absolutely not. He has even been informed of blood bending. I'm sure he could pull it off if someone like Hama could. She was just a regular water bender.

    No way he could, Hama spent years perfecting it and she taught it to katara there is no way paku could just do it
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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    That's an assumption. You can't assume things. As far as we know, Pakku wasn't fighting as well as he could. That also applies to his speed. Plus, speed, anyway, doesn't make you a greater waterbender, it just allows you to evade attacks better. It has nothing to do with skill but luck and age.

    um if it takes you 3 seconds longer to throw the water your a less good water bender besides if you go that way he can't blood bend so katara wins by default

    Absolutely not. He has even been informed of blood bending. I'm sure he could pull it off if someone like Hama could. She was just a regular water bender.

    No way he could, Hama spent years perfecting it and she taught it to katara there is no way paku could just do it

    Of course he could if he was taught like Katara was. Hama didn't know what she was doing, she was just perfecting the technique. If someone like Hama can do it, so can Pakku.
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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    That's an assumption. You can't assume things. As far as we know, Pakku wasn't fighting as well as he could. That also applies to his speed. Plus, speed, anyway, doesn't make you a greater waterbender, it just allows you to evade attacks better. It has nothing to do with skill but luck and age.

    um if it takes you 3 seconds longer to throw the water your a less good water bender besides if you go that way he can't blood bend so katara wins by default

    Absolutely not. He has even been informed of blood bending. I'm sure he could pull it off if someone like Hama could. She was just a regular water bender.

    No way he could, Hama spent years perfecting it and she taught it to katara there is no way paku could just do it

    Of course he could if he was taught like Katara was. Hama didn't know what she was doing, she was just perfecting the technique. If someone like Hama can do it, so can Pakku.

    You do know blood bending takes an amount of hate to do it
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