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    brokensocks

    [201]Aug 5, 2006
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    If the ninjas from Naruto were REAL ninjas, they wouldn't get into big fights, instead, they would run away from each other.
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    Eman5805

    [202]Aug 5, 2006
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    not to mention i don't think real ninja have demons sealed inside their bodies, have the ability to control sand, can move faster than the eye can see, or generate electricity strong enough to tear through solid rock...but hey we watch??a show where ppl chuck rocks and shoot fire at each other so anything goes in a cartoon
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    Colonel_Brian

    [203]Aug 5, 2006
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    It sure does even playing dirty.
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    sly4me

    [204]Aug 5, 2006
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    DeathandDoom wrote:
    sly4me wrote:

    DeathandDoom wrote:
    4) And what, pray tell, could Shikamaru possibly do to Sokka when he's two feet away? Even if Skikamaru doesn't feel the attack (which I firmly belive isn't true) long range weapons arre useless at that distance, and if Shikamaru hits Sokka, Sokka will just hit right back - with a stronger punch too.
    episode 122 of the anime answers this question.

    I'm pretty sure an Orochimaru henchmen with a level 2 cruse seal is stronger than Sokka.



    Like I said before, the US is only up to the chunin exams, and that is the story arc that I'm basing these match-ups on. Anything that comes after that is completly irrelevent.

    ...Wait, you're telling me that Shikamaru later joins Orochimaru's side?!! Thanks for spoiling it for me...
    OOOOOOOH, that's why I'm confused. You're using the old Shikamaru as an example. Ok. I gotcha. But he'd still win.

    -and Shikamaru dosen't join Orochimaru silly, he fights aginst one of his henchmen.

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    Colonel_Brian

    [205]Aug 5, 2006
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    Well really a girl and then Temari comes in and shippers go crazy
    Edited on 08/05/2006 10:56pm
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    sly4me

    [206]Aug 6, 2006
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    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    Well really a girl and then Temari comes in and shippers go crazy
    okay, henchwoman . She's pretty hot, too
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    Colonel_Brian

    [207]Aug 6, 2006
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    sly4me wrote:
    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    Well really a girl and then Temari comes in and shippers go crazy
    okay, henchwoman . She's pretty hot, too

    Who Temari I guess she's okay but she's scary.

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    J-ni11

    [208]Aug 6, 2006
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    People, People please.

    I know you all love sokka, heck i love him too i was just watching him kick a$$ in (the avatar state) yestrerday. However you have to accept the fact that he would not win in a fight against anyone from naruto who is a genin or above. IF the person couldn't use any jutsu's and didn't have any chakra left, then sokka has a good chance to win but if they have chakra to enhance attacks, and use jutsu's he won't win i'm sorry but it ain't gonna happen.?? Now shikamaru is my favorite character in naruto and i have researched his abilities fully. His shadow bind does not hurt the user or else the in-shika-cho formation would be suicide. I have heard deathanddoom that you are only up to the chunnin examns so i know you know what the formation is. Can you answer me how it would work since we know the person using shadow bind is supposed to hold the enemy and then the person using multisize jutsu is supposed to attack them. Also the shadow strangle is a differnet jutsu from the shadow freeze jutsu but you have to catch the opponent in shadow freeze first, they are a combo. Any other questions i would be happy to try and answer them. And also i am up to naruto episode 192 and avatar i an up to date on.

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    hakeemadams94

    [209]Aug 6, 2006
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    DeathandDoom wrote:

    He does not release it get through ur head.If he gets hurt too is new jutsu woulkd not exist.He would be choking himself.

    #2 true i could forget some things, but this isn't onew of them

    #3 Every ninja gets hand to hand combat training.He knows the basics, but rock lee is advanced close combat fighter.

    #4 U forget that he can't come close to him without getting traped in is jutsu.

    neji would lose i think.torph attacks come from the ground and his ultimate defense can't block an attack from under him.

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    1)I may not be that far in the series, but from what I understand, his shadow-choke is a completly diffrent jutsu than the shadow bind.

    2) I'm afraid that this time you did. I have even pointed out the exact chapter where this is proven, so you can look it up yourself.

    3) Shkamaru may knowe the basics, but Sokka is stronger, older and has more experience. And why the heck are you talking about Rock Lee? He's not even part of this.

    4) And what, pray tell, could Shikamaru possibly do to Sokka when he's two feet away? Even if Skikamaru doesn't feel the attack (which I firmly belive isn't true) long range weapons arre useless at that distance, and if Shikamaru hits Sokka, Sokka will just hit right back - with a stronger punch too.

    I agree with you on Toph, though. Granted, some people think that Neji's foot speed would complensate for the "earth sense".
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    OMG i linked u to the daMN EPISODE.hE DOESN'T LET GO IS JUTSU.wATCH THE EPISODE.If he has him in the jutsu at close range he would just move backwards and throw his kunai.sakka would just reach for noting becuase his weapon is on his back.

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    I did. I love Naruto, I watched it long before this thread ever existed. Plus, I own the manga. The moment I read that chapter, I immediately thought, "If Kin has to imitate everything Shikamaru does, no matter where she is, then what was the point of the shuriken fake-out?" Later on, in the chapter I have already specified (the end of 96, just as a reminder), we learn that what hurts the possessed also hurts Shikamaru. From that, I came up with this little theory. The way I see it, there are three options: either Shikamaru realised the jutsu, the jutsu reached it's time limit, or there's a big plot hole in Naruto.
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    Listen closely.He throws the kunai and then does a back flip, but he only releases it so she doesn't get up again.She would still be knocked out even if the jutsu was still going.He didn't release because he thought he would get hit too.

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    hakeemadams94

    [210]Aug 6, 2006
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    J-ni11 wrote:

    People, People please.

    I know you all love sokka, heck i love him too i was just watching him kick a$$ in (the avatar state) yestrerday. However you have to accept the fact that he would not win in a fight against anyone from naruto who is a genin or above. IF the person couldn't use any jutsu's and didn't have any chakra left, then sokka has a good chance to win but if they have chakra to enhance attacks, and use jutsu's he won't win i'm sorry but it ain't gonna happen.?? Now shikamaru is my favorite character in naruto and i have researched his abilities fully. His shadow bind does not hurt the user or else the in-shika-cho formation would be suicide. I have heard deathanddoom that you are only up to the chunnin examns so i know you know what the formation is. Can you answer me how it would work since we know the person using shadow bind is supposed to hold the enemy and then the person using multisize jutsu is supposed to attack them. Also the shadow strangle is a differnet jutsu from the shadow freeze jutsu but you have to catch the opponent in shadow freeze first, they are a combo. Any other questions i would be happy to try and answer them. And also i am up to naruto episode 192 and avatar i an up to date on.

    agreed, but death thinks he knows more about shika more then me.

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    MasterToph

    [211]Aug 6, 2006
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    all the naruto people would easily beat the avatar people exepte Toph toph would beat anyone probly not but hey cant i dream
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    thatother1dude

    [212]Aug 6, 2006
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    So it's basically martial artists that use elements vs. ninjas that also use elements less frequently. tough call
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    the_jaguarundi

    [213]Aug 6, 2006
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    I don't understand the appeal of Naruto . . . I've tried watching it several times . . . it just annoys me.

    Then again, 99% of animes annoy me, as much as I've tried to like them (and the Absolute Worst Show of All Time In Every Way Award has to go to the dragonball shows).

    Also, the Japanese version of Naruto with the subtitles is better than the Cartoon Network version, if only because I find the dubbed voices incredibly annoying, especially Naruto's, which is as grating and unrealistic to me as I'll get out.

    And now, everyone in this thread hates me. .

    But I have to say, a more interesting match-up than Avatar vs. Naruto would be the X-men vs. Naruto.

    Simply because the variety in both X-men and Naruto makes for a more interesting fight. Nightcrawler, Storm, Shadowcat, Wolverine, Rogue . . .

    Of course, mutant powers tend to follow more rigid "sci-fi" rules (for the most part) than Naruto's typically (though not always) less "real-world based" (i.e. magic) system. Oddly, Avatar's bending tends to follow a more scientific-logical way of doing things in combat, closer to X-men and more unlike Naruto. In other words, although benders can bend for spiritual reasons, the way bending is used in combat reflects the natural properties of those elements.

    This isn't to say that Naruto's combat is inferior to the combat in X-men or Avatar; it's simply more abstracted based on its own magical rules and is less "grounded." If the Dark Avatar thing were to happen (which it won't), Avatar would deviate far, far away from being "down-to-earth" and move to a more abstracted system like Naruto.

    Please be careful not to jump to any conclusions when reading the above paragraphs . . . looking at it myself, it would be easy to misunderstand what I said . . . I'm just too lazy to clarify/explain.

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    qweasdzse

    [214]Aug 6, 2006
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    for the last time shikimaru's shadow possesion does hurt him. the point of the attack is for Ino's mind transfer tech. If It didn't hurt him Choji would have crushed Dosu when he was in the shadow possesion during the otonin battle. For proof of this check Shonen Jump vol. 4 issue 7 Naruto chapter 96. Until Naruto volume 11 comes out this is the only book you can find this chapter in english??without fan translations.
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    DeathandDoom

    [215]Aug 7, 2006
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    qweasdzse wrote:
    for the last time shikimaru's shadow possesion does hurt him. the point of the attack is for Ino's mind transfer tech. If It didn't hurt him Choji would have crushed Dosu when he was in the shadow possesion during the otonin battle. For proof of this check Shonen Jump vol. 4 issue 7 Naruto chapter 96. Until Naruto volume 11 comes out this is the only book you can find this chapter in english without fan translations.


    Thank you. THANK you. For a while there I was wondering, "Am I the only one who noticed this?"
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    sly4me

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    DeathandDoom wrote:
    qweasdzse wrote:
    for the last time shikimaru's shadow possesion does hurt him. the point of the attack is for Ino's mind transfer tech. If It didn't hurt him Choji would have crushed Dosu when he was in the shadow possesion during the otonin battle. For proof of this check Shonen Jump vol. 4 issue 7 Naruto chapter 96. Until Naruto volume 11 comes out this is the only book you can find this chapter in english without fan translations.


    Thank you. THANK you. For a while there I was wondering, "Am I the only one who noticed this?"
    still, the fact it hurts him is irrelevent. Shikamaru would just need it for??5 seconds to dispose of Sokka.
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    Breakflame

    [217]Aug 7, 2006
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    http://www.narutofan.com/index.php/content-techniques,kagemane%20no%20jutsu

    There. Read that. It comes from the very reliable source of Narutofan.com

    I hope it answers your questions and this conversation can either stop or go on to a different subject.
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    J-ni11

    [218]Aug 7, 2006
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    Well there you have it, breakflame thank you. It explains why the punch from naruto hurt shika as well as the other times when it didn't hurt him.?? now we can get back to the real subject.

    Rock lee vs. azula

    sweet match, she's fast, strong, determined and smart.

    Lee crazy fast cool and can fight in his sleep.

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    thndrbndr

    [219]Aug 7, 2006
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    the_jaguarundi wrote:
    I don't understand the appeal of Naruto . . . I've tried watching it several times . . . it just annoys me.

    Then again, 99% of animes annoy me, as much as I've tried to like them (and the Absolute Worst Show of All Time In Every Way Award has to go to the dragonball shows).

    Also, the Japanese version of Naruto with the subtitles is better than the Cartoon Network version, if only because I find the dubbed voices incredibly annoying, especially Naruto's, which is as grating and unrealistic to me as I'll get out.

    And now, everyone in this thread hates me. .

    But I have to say, a more interesting match-up than Avatar vs. Naruto would be the X-men vs. Naruto.

    Simply because the variety in both X-men and Naruto makes for a more interesting fight. Nightcrawler, Storm, Shadowcat, Wolverine, Rogue . . .

    Of course, mutant powers tend to follow more rigid "sci-fi" rules (for the most part) than Naruto's typically (though not always) less "real-world based" (i.e. magic) system. Oddly, Avatar's bending tends to follow a more scientific-logical way of doing things in combat, closer to X-men and more unlike Naruto. In other words, although benders can bend for spiritual reasons, the way bending is used in combat reflects the natural properties of those elements.

    This isn't to say that Naruto's combat is inferior to the combat in X-men or Avatar; it's simply more abstracted based on its own magical rules and is less "grounded." If the Dark Avatar thing were to happen (which it won't), Avatar would deviate far, far away from being "down-to-earth" and move to a more abstracted system like Naruto.

    Please be careful not to jump to any conclusions when reading the above paragraphs . . . looking at it myself, it would be easy to misunderstand what I said . . . I'm just too lazy to clarify/explain.

    I gotta say I disagree, I hate all anieme except for Naruto and The Dragonball?? series. Their one of the best cartoon shows on TV,

    Now?? Both Naruto and Avatar are my favorite shows but I'll have to say that everyone on the Naruto side would destroy everyone on the Avatar side except??for the Zuko/ Itachi fight because I have no idea who itachi is, I'm guessing he's Saske's brother who has had cameos so far in the American??showing of it.??

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    Colonel_Brian

    [220]Aug 7, 2006
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    You're kidding right? Zuko would so own Gatou!
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