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Avatar inspired by World War II?

Was avatar inspired by WWII?

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    BlindWatcher400

    [101]May 25, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    First off, I do know what semitic is. It also refers to the collective term for Arabic and Hebrew, among other things, such as the Abrahamic religions. But the word anti-semitism has a completely different meaning. There it only refers to jewish people. And yes, he was a good orator, he was a brilliant public speaker and he was charismatic. But I don't admire those characteristics, because he used those traits to gather support for his genocide campaign. If he had used those traits for something else they would be very admirable. Oh, and I'm in no way islamophobic, because that would undermine my hatred of anti-semitism. I know that Islam and Judaism are like sister religions (technically brother but let's not go there), along with Christianity. The three Abrahamic religions (they split off at Abraham, that's why they're named as such).

    There's a fourth: Pastafarianism. We based ourselves on the old monotheism that the Hebrews discovered, but were misinformed about. RAmen to all fellow FSM believers.

    But that's not the topic, now is it?

    I can see some parallels between Azula and Hitler Both know how to get their men to follow their orders, regardless of what they are, they surrond themselves with the best people available Hitler got Rommel, Azula got Mai and Ty Li), and they both went kinda loco in the end (what else can we assume from Azula seeing mummy again?).

    Two excellent public speaker obsessed with power and perfection (though Hitler sought a twisted type of perfection, Azula's perfect just the way she is).

    I'd say that's good enough to say Azula was partially based off of Hitler.

    OMG! The love of my life based off a madman? Say it ain't so! *runs off to shoot self*

    Wait... *runs off to swallow cyanide p-*

    Wait a minute...

    Hanging! *runs off to hang self*

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    tomtitan

    [102]May 25, 2008
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    BlindWatcher400 wrote:
    There's a fourth: Pastafarianism. We based ourselves on the old monotheism that the Hebrews discovered, but were misinformed about. RAmen to all fellow FSM believers. But that's not the topic, now is it?
    Oh man, how could I forget the epicness that is Pastafarianism?

    All hail the Flying Spgahetti Monster! They must teach Pastafarianism in schools!
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    AllKnowingBeing

    [103]May 25, 2008
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    "coughjewsarehypocritescough"
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    tomtitan

    [104]May 25, 2008
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    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    "coughjewsarehypocritescough"
    I hate that. That some insane Orthodox Jews give the entire Jewish community a bad name. We're not all like that y'know.
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    DeeDuck33

    [105]May 25, 2008
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    tomtitan wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    "coughjewsarehypocritescough"
    I hate that. That some insane Orthodox Jews give the entire Jewish community a bad name. We're not all like that y'know.
    It happens with all types of groups. There is always some moron who starts speaking on behalf of a large group of people making them look like complete fools.
    Edited on 05/25/2008 8:19am
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    AVThunderbird

    [106]May 25, 2008
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    BlindWatcher400 wrote:

    tomtitan wrote:
    First off, I do know what semitic is. It also refers to the collective term for Arabic and Hebrew, among other things, such as the Abrahamic religions. But the word anti-semitism has a completely different meaning. There it only refers to jewish people. And yes, he was a good orator, he was a brilliant public speaker and he was charismatic. But I don't admire those characteristics, because he used those traits to gather support for his genocide campaign. If he had used those traits for something else they would be very admirable. Oh, and I'm in no way islamophobic, because that would undermine my hatred of anti-semitism. I know that Islam and Judaism are like sister religions (technically brother but let's not go there), along with Christianity. The three Abrahamic religions (they split off at Abraham, that's why they're named as such).

    There's a fourth: Pastafarianism. We based ourselves on the old monotheism that the Hebrews discovered, but were misinformed about. RAmen to all fellow FSM believers.

    RAmen brother! I'm currently on a mission to convert non-believers...

    ,

    Edited on 05/25/2008 8:30am
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    SoundFour7568

    [107]May 25, 2008
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    I never thought about it this way but I think you should have coorected somethings in particular: its nazi and not nozi. And be careful this could lead to some violent stuff like hitler Almost everyone hates him. my advice is be careful and great point.
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    Miroku78

    [108]May 25, 2008
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    SoundFour7568 wrote:
    I never thought about it this way but I think you should have coorected somethings in particular: its nazi and not nozi. And be careful this could lead to some violent stuff like hitler Almost everyone hates him. my advice is be careful and great point.


    Wow.. u know you spelt corrected wrong.
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    clifton13

    [109]May 25, 2008
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    wow this threat is mega of topic.

    I think the avatar nations are most similar to

    Fire Nation=Japanese empire,Germany WW1 and WW2 and old fashion European colonization

    Earth Kingdom=China during WW2 no centralized government, poverty, practical no industry

    Water tribe (north)= a weaker Britain during WW2

    Water tribe (south)= a refugee camp, sorry that's the only thing I can think of.

    Air Normand's=Tibet/Mongolia, Jew and other unwanted minority in ww2

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    CoolioVonJulio

    [110]May 26, 2008
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    suss2it wrote:
    tomtitan wrote:
    I really can't believe some of the people on this thread.

    'Sure Hitler slaughtered millions of people, but there are other qualities about him that I really like'.

    Seriously, what the crap?

    Hitler was one of the most evil men who ever lived. Along with Atilla the Hun, Gengis Khan, Stalin and several others this man was up there with the most evil of the evil.

    Have any of you ever been to Auschwitz? I have. You'd change your opinions on this 'admirable man' if you went there.

    I'll say it. I am Jewish. Therefore it was my ancestors who were killed by this monster. On the database in Auschwitz there are hundreds of people with my family name listed as killed in the holocaust.

    Hitler is now known to have been very kind to the people around him, he was a vegetarian, he encouraged his officers to quit smoking. Yes, this is all good. But at the same time this man is responsible for attempted genocide, mass-murder on an unprecedented scale, and one of the largest wars in human history. Not admirable qualities.

    People who admire Hitler to be perfectly honest, sicken me to the core.

    Khalid, you say you admire Hitler You also say you're a Muslim. You should know that if you met Hitler he would kill you without a second thought. It wasn't just the Jews who Hitler hated, it was anyone from any race but his own. Including you. An admiration of Hitler is truly idiotic, as that man certainly doesn't admire you.
    I think you're taking what Khalid said out of proportion, he never said he admired Hitler just that he liked certain qualities that he had. Oh and when you say mass-murder on an unprecedented scale, wasn't around 6 million Jewish people killed because of the war? (RIP to all of them) But I think back in the day when white people were bringing over african people to become slaves somewhere like 170 million died, look up though since I'm not quite sure.

    And on-topic: Yea I do see a resemblance between the Nazis and the FN, with the genocide and wanting to conquer the world.


    yea Kahlid13 said "CERTAIN QUALITIES" i admire how Hitler got his people all riled up, even if it was for a bad cause, he was a motivational speaker and he brought the German economy up
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    djdfire

    [111]May 26, 2008
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    khalid13 wrote:
    AllKnowingBeing wrote:
    KingAtticus wrote:
    PsychoPass wrote:
    I have a crazy theory that World War 2 was inspired by World War 1...
    That's insane! Just because the Allies destroyed three empires and blamed the war entirely on Germany and essentially destroyed its economy and military, not to mention failed to acknowledge Italy and Japan well in creation of the Treaty of Versaille, and brought about the Great Depression, and left France ravaged and burned, doesn't mean that it caused WWII.
    You forgot the Bolsheveik Revolution.
    Ooh, yeah. And in turn the Cold War. Oh hell, why not just blame it all on Hitler Chamberlain and Lenin's mothers for giving birth to them?
    Let's not forget Stalin's mother.
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    hkulka2974

    [112]May 26, 2008
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    Nickylucas wrote:
    We know that a man named Hitler started WWII because he wanted world domonation right? So he sent his Nozi people into Poland for the first step to World Domination. It eventually spread to the whole world because of all of the victories. Then when the Japenesse attacked Pearl Harbor the Americans came in and so on. In the Avatar world war there are also three nations united, (one which was defeated) and they had one goal which was to defeat the firenation capital and unite the four nations. Maybe Ozai will blow him self up like hitler and then the war will end. What do you think? Avatar WW and WWII have so much in common!

    this is a really far fetched idea. it is true that ozai wants to take over the world but hitler wasnt the only personin human history who sought world domination. also why would bryke base it off WWII ? the next thing youve got to back up your idea is the genocide of jews and a genocide of the air nomads. but i seriously cant think why bryke would base the show off WWII, considering of what a dramatic event that was for many families, knowing that their main audience would be kids?

    So once again i'll say that i think that bryke would probably not have based ATLA after such a tragic event in american history

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    Mapletree46

    [113]May 26, 2008
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    i has perfect pic 4 tis thread

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    DeeDuck33

    [114]May 26, 2008
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    hkulka2974 wrote:

    Nickylucas wrote:
    We know that a man named Hitler started WWII because he wanted world domonation right? So he sent his Nozi people into Poland for the first step to World Domination. It eventually spread to the whole world because of all of the victories. Then when the Japenesse attacked Pearl Harbor the Americans came in and so on. In the Avatar world war there are also three nations united, (one which was defeated) and they had one goal which was to defeat the firenation capital and unite the four nations. Maybe Ozai will blow him self up like hitler and then the war will end. What do you think? Avatar WW and WWII have so much in common!

    this is a really far fetched idea. it is true that ozai wants to take over the world but hitler wasnt the only personin human history who sought world domination. also why would bryke base it off WWII ? the next thing youve got to back up your idea is the genocide of jews and a genocide of the air nomads. but i seriously cant think why bryke would base the show off WWII, considering of what a dramatic event that was for many families, knowing that their main audience would be kids?

    So once again i'll say that i think that bryke would probably not have based ATLA after such a tragic event in american history
    You do know that it didn't just change the USA's history, right?
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    Mapletree46

    [115]May 26, 2008
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    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    Nickylucas wrote:
    We know that a man named Hitler started WWII because he wanted world domonation right? So he sent his Nozi people into Poland for the first step to World Domination. It eventually spread to the whole world because of all of the victories. Then when the Japenesse attacked Pearl Harbor the Americans came in and so on. In the Avatar world war there are also three nations united, (one which was defeated) and they had one goal which was to defeat the firenation capital and unite the four nations. Maybe Ozai will blow him self up like hitler and then the war will end. What do you think? Avatar WW and WWII have so much in common!

    this is a really far fetched idea. it is true that ozai wants to take over the world but hitler wasnt the only personin human history who sought world domination. also why would bryke base it off WWII ? the next thing youve got to back up your idea is the genocide of jews and a genocide of the air nomads. but i seriously cant think why bryke would base the show off WWII, considering of what a dramatic event that was for many families, knowing that their main audience would be kids?

    So once again i'll say that i think that bryke would probably not have based ATLA after such a tragic event in american history
    You do know that it didn't just change the USA's history, right?

    and it wasn't as much a tragic event in america as it was in european countries. WWII helped pull America out of the Great Depression.
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    Skullz131

    [116]May 26, 2008
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    wow. this thread looks like it'll turn out to be an all out flaming war. just a thought but why don't u guys just end the thread? ........plz don't me flame for this post.
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    Mapletree46

    [117]May 26, 2008
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    Skullz131 wrote:
    wow. this thread looks like it'll turn out to be an all out flaming war. just a thought but why don't u guys just end the thread? ........plz don't me flame for this post.


    DAH!!! You have no understanding of our way of life or posting. You should lurk before you post

    (but you make a good point)
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    BlindWatcher400

    [118]May 26, 2008
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    Mapletree46 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:

    Nickylucas wrote:
    We know that a man named Hitler started WWII because he wanted world domonation right? So he sent his Nozi people into Poland for the first step to World Domination. It eventually spread to the whole world because of all of the victories. Then when the Japenesse attacked Pearl Harbor the Americans came in and so on. In the Avatar world war there are also three nations united, (one which was defeated) and they had one goal which was to defeat the firenation capital and unite the four nations. Maybe Ozai will blow him self up like hitler and then the war will end. What do you think? Avatar WW and WWII have so much in common!

    this is a really far fetched idea. it is true that ozai wants to take over the world but hitler wasnt the only personin human history who sought world domination. also why would bryke base it off WWII ? the next thing youve got to back up your idea is the genocide of jews and a genocide of the air nomads. but i seriously cant think why bryke would base the show off WWII, considering of what a dramatic event that was for many families, knowing that their main audience would be kids?

    So once again i'll say that i think that bryke would probably not have based ATLA after such a tragic event in american history
    You do know that it didn't just change the USA's history, right?
    and it wasn't as much a tragic event in america as it was in european countries. WWII helped pull America out of the Great Depression.

    I partially disagree. World War 2 mad the depression irrelevent. People started to give large amounts of money to the US government via War Bonds, which the government used to beef up US industry.

    It wasn't so much as WW2 itself ended the Great Depression, but how the government managed its money that got us out.

    Besides, the Great Depression wasn't going to last forever. FDR and his New Deal began the climb out of it. WW2 just provided the means of which to fully get out of it. WW2 was a catylist, not the driving force itself.

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    Glitterstrar

    [119]Jul 2, 2008
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    I sometimes feel that watching Avatar. But it would be interesting in real life that a 12 year old had stop Hitler
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    maximusgh

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    Yes and not to mention we would be speaking German or Japanese!
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