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    MaddoKos

    [161]Jul 3, 2008
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    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    Wow. I didn't get hit nearly as hard as I expected. Two flamers offset by two in agreement. Nice.

    Vxiel: 0_o Dude, if you really look like your new icon, I think we're going to have to make out.

    MarryLarry: The vast majority of the indigenous populations of North and South American were killed either by disease introduced by the Europeans or by being killed over the course of several centuries of "warfare" (read: massacres). The scattered remnants were relocated to reservations. That's f*cking genocide in my book.
    Well that's your book. There is no question that what happened to the native americans was wrong, but genocide wasn't the intent of the immigrants from Europe. They took their land and killed them when they resisted, and I'm sure some of them wished the NA would just disappear. It's a little naive to compare that to baking people in ovens systematically.


    The U.S. government DID have a policy of systematically exterminating the NA. They paid bounties for people to go out and kill them.
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    carlsonem

    [162]Jul 3, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    fatsomama wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    carlsonem wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    Alpha1Niner wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    speechless8582 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    Here's the list.

    And that's only up to 1999.

    Just out of curiosity, do you live in the U.S.? And if you could vote, who would you vote for?


    I do live in the U.S., I CAN vote and I'll vote for Barack Obama. Not because I particularly like him, but in order to help prevent John McCain from being elected.

    (Sorry Alpha1Niner)

    It's okay because whoever does become president will be picked on by everyone and I enjoy it either way. But what is it that you don't like about McCain.


    No, I've made everyone mad enough at me already.

    Aw, I enjoy intelligent political discussions! lol, but thats okay. I personally wanted Mitt Romney to win. But thats obviously not happening.
    Romney would have made a good president but he wasn't a big time candidate like McCain

    Unfortunately true. I couldnt vote in the primaries because i wasnt 18 yet. So i never got to vote for him. Ah, well.
    Psshh, Ron Paul was crazy, but he was moving in the right direction. Romney seemed too much like a salesman to me. He wouldn't stand up for his beliefs with a clear voice, just kinda worked around the hard questions.

    He would have been good for the economy and such. I did a report about him for a class, I would recall what exactly the report was about, but I dont remember as it was last November, but all I remember was thinking that I really wanted to vote for Romney. But, thats that. Also, everyone in my class in November thought Guliani would win the election. Funny how that worked.
    The problem with Ron Paul is that he is an independent like Nadar and Bob Barr. These independents don't believe they can win they just want to steal votes from democrats and republicans. They don't have the big time support from the head honchos in Washington.
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    fatsomama

    [163]Jul 3, 2008
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    MaddoKos wrote:
    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    Wow. I didn't get hit nearly as hard as I expected. Two flamers offset by two in agreement. Nice.

    Vxiel: 0_o Dude, if you really look like your new icon, I think we're going to have to make out.

    MarryLarry: The vast majority of the indigenous populations of North and South American were killed either by disease introduced by the Europeans or by being killed over the course of several centuries of "warfare" (read: massacres). The scattered remnants were relocated to reservations. That's f*cking genocide in my book.
    Well that's your book. There is no question that what happened to the native americans was wrong, but genocide wasn't the intent of the immigrants from Europe. They took their land and killed them when they resisted, and I'm sure some of them wished the NA would just disappear. It's a little naive to compare that to baking people in ovens systematically.


    The U.S. government DID have a policy of systematically exterminating the NA. They paid bounties for people to go out and kill them.
    The purpose being to push them off their lands, not wipe them out. A dead NA was a NA that couldn't attack settlers, etc. Sure there was racism involved as in any conflict. But Hitler wanted every Jew in existence to be dead, not just relocated. He didn't want their houses or land, or their money. He wanted them dead. I'm trying not to be insensitive here, I am part NA.
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    fatsomama

    [164]Jul 3, 2008
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    carlsonem wrote:
    The problem with Ron Paul is that he is an independent like Nadar and Bob Barr. These independents don't believe they can win they just want to steal votes from democrats and republicans. They don't have the big time support from the head honchos in Washington.
    Ron Paul wasn't running as an independent though, he was running as a republican nominee. He didn't steal votes from anyone, unless nominee votes count (of which I think he had a whooping 5% or something small like that).
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    carlsonem

    [165]Jul 3, 2008
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    MaddoKos wrote:
    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    Wow. I didn't get hit nearly as hard as I expected. Two flamers offset by two in agreement. Nice.

    Vxiel: 0_o Dude, if you really look like your new icon, I think we're going to have to make out.

    MarryLarry: The vast majority of the indigenous populations of North and South American were killed either by disease introduced by the Europeans or by being killed over the course of several centuries of "warfare" (read: massacres). The scattered remnants were relocated to reservations. That's f*cking genocide in my book.
    Well that's your book. There is no question that what happened to the native americans was wrong, but genocide wasn't the intent of the immigrants from Europe. They took their land and killed them when they resisted, and I'm sure some of them wished the NA would just disappear. It's a little naive to compare that to baking people in ovens systematically.


    The U.S. government DID have a policy of systematically exterminating the NA. They paid bounties for people to go out and kill them.
    The US used the idea of Manifest Destiny for the justification for taking Na's land and putting them on reservations. It was just more government propaganda.
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    carlsonem

    [166]Jul 3, 2008
    • member since: 12/23/06
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    fatsomama wrote:
    carlsonem wrote:
    The problem with Ron Paul is that he is an independent like Nadar and Bob Barr. These independents don't believe they can win they just want to steal votes from democrats and republicans. They don't have the big time support from the head honchos in Washington.
    Ron Paul wasn't running as an independent though, he was running as a republican nominee. He didn't steal votes from anyone, unless nominee votes count (of which I think he had a whooping 5% or something small like that).
    Yeah i mixed him up with Bob Barr. I mentioned both of them. It was Barr would would take away votes from McCain in the general election. Barr used to be a republican before he switched to libertarianism which is very similar to republican views. It is just another form of conservatism. And we all know conservatives are better than liberals
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    MaddoKos

    [167]Jul 3, 2008
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    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    Wow. I didn't get hit nearly as hard as I expected. Two flamers offset by two in agreement. Nice.

    Vxiel: 0_o Dude, if you really look like your new icon, I think we're going to have to make out.

    MarryLarry: The vast majority of the indigenous populations of North and South American were killed either by disease introduced by the Europeans or by being killed over the course of several centuries of "warfare" (read: massacres). The scattered remnants were relocated to reservations. That's f*cking genocide in my book.
    Well that's your book. There is no question that what happened to the native americans was wrong, but genocide wasn't the intent of the immigrants from Europe. They took their land and killed them when they resisted, and I'm sure some of them wished the NA would just disappear. It's a little naive to compare that to baking people in ovens systematically.


    The U.S. government DID have a policy of systematically exterminating the NA. They paid bounties for people to go out and kill them.
    The purpose being to push them off their lands, not wipe them out. A dead NA was a NA that couldn't attack settlers, etc. Sure there was racism involved as in any conflict. But Hitler wanted every Jew in existence to be dead, not just relocated. He didn't want their houses or land, or their money. He wanted them dead. I'm trying not to be insensitive here, I am part NA.


    And there we LOTS of Americans who wanted ALL the NA dead. The fact of the matter is that Hitler's atrocities lasted less than a decade. The near-extermination of the NA lasted several centuries and a whole lot more than 6 million of them died.

    But this is silly. I think we can both agree that both instances of ethnic cleansing were horrible. It's pointless to argue which was worse.

    As far as the current Iraq war being the only war in which the U.S. was the aggressor...that's sort of true, I guess. If you discount the wars that America involved itself in after a provoking incident that may or may not have been falsified (Spanish-American war, Vietnam war), wars that America involved itself in that were none of its business, and wars that it started to overthrow foreign leaders via the C.I.A. (a ton of those).
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    toosmooth

    [168]Jul 3, 2008
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    Ugh. I just threw up. There must be a stench of politics in here. Gross. *Leaves*
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    MaddoKos

    [169]Jul 3, 2008
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    toosmooth wrote:
    Ugh. I just threw up. There must be a stench of politics in here. Gross. *Leaves*


    Yeah, I agree.

    *leaves*
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    carlsonem

    [170]Jul 3, 2008
    • member since: 12/23/06
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    MaddoKos wrote:
    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    fatsomama wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    Wow. I didn't get hit nearly as hard as I expected. Two flamers offset by two in agreement. Nice.

    Vxiel: 0_o Dude, if you really look like your new icon, I think we're going to have to make out.

    MarryLarry: The vast majority of the indigenous populations of North and South American were killed either by disease introduced by the Europeans or by being killed over the course of several centuries of "warfare" (read: massacres). The scattered remnants were relocated to reservations. That's f*cking genocide in my book.
    Well that's your book. There is no question that what happened to the native americans was wrong, but genocide wasn't the intent of the immigrants from Europe. They took their land and killed them when they resisted, and I'm sure some of them wished the NA would just disappear. It's a little naive to compare that to baking people in ovens systematically.


    The U.S. government DID have a policy of systematically exterminating the NA. They paid bounties for people to go out and kill them.
    The purpose being to push them off their lands, not wipe them out. A dead NA was a NA that couldn't attack settlers, etc. Sure there was racism involved as in any conflict. But Hitler wanted every Jew in existence to be dead, not just relocated. He didn't want their houses or land, or their money. He wanted them dead. I'm trying not to be insensitive here, I am part NA.


    And there we LOTS of Americans who wanted ALL the NA dead. The fact of the matter is that Hitler's atrocities lasted less than a decade. The near-extermination of the NA lasted several centuries and a whole lot more than 6 million of them died.

    But this is silly. I think we can both agree that both instances of ethnic cleansing were horrible. It's pointless to argue which was worse.

    As far as the current Iraq war being the only war in which the U.S. was the aggressor...that's sort of true, I guess. If you discount the wars that America involved itself in after a provoking incident that may or may not have been falsified (Spanish-American war, Vietnam war), wars that America involved itself in that were none of its business, and wars that it started to overthrow foreign leaders via the C.I.A. (a ton of those).
    If we had just listened to George Washington's words in his farewell address. He specifically told us not to get involved in foreign affairs. Because it leads to this, pointless wars with no end in sight. Also he said that multiple political parties is also a problem. when all you have is Repubs and Dems shouting at each other nothing will ever get done. If only we had listened, but noooo, and now look were we are. The economy is dead and the rest of world hates us. Also we are controlled by nations like Saudi Arabia because they control oil production and thus control our transportation industry and thus control America.
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    jakeman3025

    [171]Jul 3, 2008
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    ron paul was probably the most intelligent republican. he had the best voting recored that corresponded with the constitution but the republican party has been distorted in my opionen and u could tell during the debates they did not like his bring are troops home polices lol.now mcbush and them junkies want to attack iran now and steal there black gold lol.
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    carlsonem

    [172]Jul 3, 2008
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    jakeman3025 wrote:
    ron paul was probably the most intelligent republican. he had the best voting recored that corresponded with the constitution but the republican party has been distorted in my opionen and u could tell during the debates they did not like his bring are troops home polices lol.now mcbush and them junkies want to attack iran now and steal there black gold lol.
    Stop listening to Barack Obama. McCain is not bush. McCain has denounced serval Bush policies. Secondly you cant just take all of your troops out now. We have already gotten to far to quit. Leaving now would be like droping out of school the day before you graduate. it doesn't make sense. On the issue of oil, the democrats would rather have us pay 10 dollars a gallon and 200 dollars a barrel in order to save the polar bears and keep their environmental supports happy. oh those environmentalists are the ones who give the dems their money and power. How can the dems say their primaries are democratic when the dems super-delegates could secure more than 20 percent of the votes for the candidates in their party they like. That is really democratic. Watch this and you'll see..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKc0iQ4jnUY
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    Vxiel

    [173]Jul 3, 2008
    • member since: 06/05/08
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    MaddoKos wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:

    I always interpreted it as:

    Ozai = Bush

    Fire Nation = U.S.

    Extermination of the Air Nomads = Extermination of the Native Americans

    Invasion of the rest of the world = well...uh...invasion of the rest of the world.

    and

    The Gaang = Al-Qaeda

    *dives into bunker to hide from flamers*

    Wow. I didn't get hit nearly as hard as I expected. Two flamers offset by two in agreement. Nice.

    Vxiel: 0_o Dude, if you really look like your new icon, I think we're going to have to make out.

    She's a Japanese Pr0n star & since I'm a guy I don't look like her unfortunately. Though I must say I am a beautiful man

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