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    CrystalCoconut

    [201]Sep 13, 2009
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    imverybasic wrote:

    I think that a lot of this information is/are just errors and mistakes on the writers' parts.

    1. Harold wasn't scored for his dish, Courtney was, so it's assumed that Harold gets a 0.

    What really happened was that Chris gave Harold a smile and a "your antipasto passed the testo," while he gave Courtney and Duncan a "meh" and they scored with a 6. So Harold wins this one.

    2. Another error was that Chris promised to award triple points to the Bass team if Courtney jumped into the jello. My theory is that the writers probably meant to make the score 7/4 or 7/5 instead of 7/3, but they made that mistake. So if Courtney would have jumped, The Bass would have had tied with the Gophers, or they would have won the challenge. Courtney did get Duncan to face his fear, although I think that it was just for the sake of the Duncan/Courtney factor. He liked her and therefore felt confident. Courtney first said "you can do it" but later, it changed to "it's okay if you CAN'T do it". Duncan still faced his fear. DJ faced his fear, because of Courtney, but it was more of a team effort. The rest of the team tried to encourage him, while Courtney yelled at him and told him to suck it up. DJ faced his fear. Whether it was because of Courtney (it was at the last minute) or a team effort (majority sometimes rules), we could only assume.

    3. The Paintball Deer Hunt challenge. Credit definitely goes to Harold for this. Courtney wasn't shot, but only because no one went after her -which seems unfair- while Duncan and surprisingly Sadie, were hunted and they still managed to avoid their hunters.

    4. The dodgeball challenge. Courtney did get out more people, but definitely not singlehandedly. It was because of Duncan's strategy that she ended up eliminating more of the opposing players. Yes, she had the idea of getting Duncan in the game. The sad part is that although it was her idea, she didn't even come through with it. It ended up to be a team effort and even thought of using Harold as bait, so about little or no credit goes to her. She just took credit as the leader. The only person that she managed to eliminate was Cody. She even got out twice, which doesn't make her out to be such a good player.

    I hope that clears things up.



    I didnt read this whole post but as for the cooking thing

    HAROLD DIDNT GIVE HIS TEAM ANY POINTS

    he didnt help his team at all

    He did have a better dish but he still didnt help. courtney did she wins
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    CrystalCoconut

    [202]Sep 13, 2009
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    Courtney did her job and Harold did his.

    Besides not one deer on the bass was shot.

    Geoff and Bridgette could have shot at least one deer and they would have one.

    It would have made no difference if Harold was in the game. I dont see why he deserves any credit

    If Courtney wasnt in the game they still would have won.

    It may be unfair that no one went after Courtney but a win is a win.
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    CrystalCoconut

    [203]Sep 13, 2009
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    Courtney got Cody out by herself

    She got 4 ppl out with Duncan's "rush the new guy" And she got Duncan in

    Harold just got Owen out.

    Courtney contributed MORE then Harold even though it was just a little bit. She still helped the team worse.
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    n5d25d90

    [204]Sep 13, 2009
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    If I remember correctly, the dodgeball competition was still down to one last member, and if Harold didn't catch the ball, the Bass wouldn't have won anyway, no matter how well Courtney did.
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    Riankg

    [206]Sep 14, 2009
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    Something I agree is that in the shooting challenge...Courtney had something to do and Harold another thing.

    Courtney's goal was not being shot by someone of the other team. Harold's goal was shooting someone from the other team..so.. if Courtney wasnt shot..well she wins a point. If Harold shooted in someone well he wins a point too..DOESNT metter if he was the shotter so he was more important..NO..he did what he had to do and Courtney too.

    I'm not contributing for this discussion I onnly want to end it. In other side we have a new season now and we can start comparing HXC points in each episode..let's see who is the best between them in this season.
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    Brodoin15

    [207]Sep 14, 2009
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    CrystalCoconut wrote:
    imverybasic wrote:

    I think that a lot of this information is/are just errors and mistakes on the writers' parts.

    1. Harold wasn't scored for his dish, Courtney was, so it's assumed that Harold gets a 0.

    What really happened was that Chris gave Harold a smile and a "your antipasto passed the testo," while he gave Courtney and Duncan a "meh" and they scored with a 6. So Harold wins this one.

    2. Another error was that Chris promised to award triple points to the Bass team if Courtney jumped into the jello. My theory is that the writers probably meant to make the score 7/4 or 7/5 instead of 7/3, but they made that mistake. So if Courtney would have jumped, The Bass would have had tied with the Gophers, or they would have won the challenge. Courtney did get Duncan to face his fear, although I think that it was just for the sake of the Duncan/Courtney factor. He liked her and therefore felt confident. Courtney first said "you can do it" but later, it changed to "it's okay if you CAN'T do it". Duncan still faced his fear. DJ faced his fear, because of Courtney, but it was more of a team effort. The rest of the team tried to encourage him, while Courtney yelled at him and told him to suck it up. DJ faced his fear. Whether it was because of Courtney (it was at the last minute) or a team effort (majority sometimes rules), we could only assume.

    3. The Paintball Deer Hunt challenge. Credit definitely goes to Harold for this. Courtney wasn't shot, but only because no one went after her -which seems unfair- while Duncan and surprisingly Sadie, were hunted and they still managed to avoid their hunters.

    4. The dodgeball challenge. Courtney did get out more people, but definitely not singlehandedly. It was because of Duncan's strategy that she ended up eliminating more of the opposing players. Yes, she had the idea of getting Duncan in the game. The sad part is that although it was her idea, she didn't even come through with it. It ended up to be a team effort and even thought of using Harold as bait, so about little or no credit goes to her. She just took credit as the leader. The only person that she managed to eliminate was Cody. She even got out twice, which doesn't make her out to be such a good player.

    I hope that clears things up.

    I didnt read this whole post but as for the cooking thing HAROLD DIDNT GIVE HIS TEAM ANY POINTS he didnt help his team at all He did have a better dish but he still didnt help. courtney did she wins

    Yes, Courtney got points for her team and it is a mistake that Harold didn't.

    But on a better or worse chart, it does not make Courtney better.

    Look at it this way: If you and another person took a test, and you got more questions correct, but your teacher accidently gave you a C or D instead of the B or A you should have got, and the other person who took the test accidently got the A or B instead of you, would that make the other person better?

    No, it obviously wouldn't, as it was a mistake.

    You can't give Courtney credit for a mistake the writers made.

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    HaydenAvery

    [208]Sep 14, 2009
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    yes cc so no matter how hard you try to yurn chris's words around or make courtney seem like the best player ever when he isnt. ok lets say courtney is better in challenges. and compare the mpersonality wise.

    Harold:

    Challenges: 8

    Kindness:9

    Alliance: 10

    Total: 27

    Courtney:

    Challenges: 9

    Kindness: 3

    Alliance: 4

    Total: 16

    so yea courtney did deserve to leave whether or not she was just barely better then harold. as for TDA harolds doing just as good if not better then courtney.
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    Riankg

    [209]Sep 14, 2009
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    HaydenAvery wrote:
    yes cc so no matter how hard you try to yurn chris's words around or make courtney seem like the best player ever when he isnt. ok lets say courtney is better in challenges. and compare the mpersonality wise.

    Harold:

    Challenges: 8

    Kindness:9

    Alliance: 10

    Total: 27

    Courtney:

    Challenges: 9

    Kindness: 3

    Alliance: 4

    Total: 16

    so yea courtney did deserve to leave whether or not she was just barely better then harold. as for TDA harolds doing just as good if not better then courtney.


    Hey Hey..we werent talking about TDI? If you start talking about TDA..is a completely opposite story. Because if we talking about TDA we have toi change somethings...

    HAROLD

    Challenges - 7

    Kindness - 5 ..he isnt the most friendly player in his team.. during the season almost everyone hated him

    Alliance - 5.. he was hated by Duncan and Heather through all last season and he still fights with Duncan..plus even Leshawna sayed bad things about him...

    Total: 17

    COURTNEY

    Challenges - 9..since she came back she made her team win almost all challenges.. despite they lose in episode 13..they won the challenges from episode 14 and 15...and the individual challenges she always ..until now won.

    Kindness - 4..ok with this I agree... But through the last episode we can see how they didnt hate her much as they hated her in episode 14. And she plays fairly..

    Alliance - 4...like Harold she isnt the most lovely person of her team..

    Total: 17

    I think that they are equal.. remembering that she came back in episode 13 and we are in episode 15.
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    HaydenAvery

    [210]Sep 14, 2009
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    no by alliance i mean shed easily betray you in a heart beat! and no harold has been kind but duncan and heather havent. hes also done way better in TDA than courtney who is still a (censored). ok so for TDA.

    Harold:

    Challenges: 9.5 (second best player after duncan)

    Kindness: 9 (he only gets mean when harassed first)

    Alliance: 10 (guaranteed he wont betray you)

    Total: 28.5 (definite improvement from last season along with his comedy even better!)

    Courtney: (so far)

    Challenges: 9

    Kindness: 4 (yea agreed but in boxing she yelled at lindsay)

    Alliance: 3 (poor chances of her sticking in the alliance. being full of herself once she got the strong players out shed kick you out asap)

    Total: 16 (hasnt changed one bit besides being even bossier which should lower her score actually)
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    Diddy_2000

    [211]Sep 14, 2009
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    I thought we were comparing Courtney and Harold in challenges and not kindness.

    If we are comparing kindness then Harold wins by a longshot. But in the words of Ezekiel. "He's a traitor eh."
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    Riankg

    [212]Sep 14, 2009
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    HaydenAvery wrote:
    no by alliance i mean shed easily betray you in a heart beat! and no harold has been kind but duncan and heather havent. hes also done way better in TDA than courtney who is still a (censored). ok so for TDA.

    Harold:

    Challenges: 9.5 (second best player after duncan)

    Kindness: 9 (he only gets mean when harassed first)

    Alliance: 10 (guaranteed he wont betray you)

    Total: 28.5 (definite improvement from last season along with his comedy even better!)

    Courtney: (so far)

    Challenges: 9

    Kindness: 4 (yea agreed but in boxing she yelled at lindsay)

    Alliance: 3 (poor chances of her sticking in the alliance. being full of herself once she got the strong players out shed kick you out asap)

    Total: 16 (hasnt changed one bit besides being even bossier which should lower her score actually)


    Ok I wont discuss with you because you're getting worse than Crystal Coconut in this aspect..no offense CC. What I agree now is that you're making what Coconut say you do and it's true..only because I raised Courtney's points but giving my oppinion you added almost 10 points do Harold by saying his is trustful.

    AND YES..we're talking about the one who is the best in challenges between both, not how they have friends and how trustful they are. We cant count until episode 13..i'm not trying to give an advantage to Courtney..but we cant compare something that she didnt done..am i wrong?

    Let's see episode 13:

    Harold - His team won..but he didnt much..he just tried to open the safe..even they left Leshawna in there.

    Courtney - She appeared in the middle of the episode and she made her team almost cross the finish line. But she didnt.

    Gaffer won...Point to Harold

    Harold 1x0 Courtney

    EPISODE 14: Harold - Didnt help much in the first part of the challenge. He was only chased by "beavers". In the second part he made Justin fall, but he fell too..so he didnt helped.

    Courtney - Lindsay won the first partt of making fire..not Courtney. But she won the fight against Duncan soo..point for Courtney.

    Harold 1x1 Courtney

    EPISODE 15:

    Harold - He won his part of the challenge against Lindsay, but he was considered with Lindsay the worse in the conditioning challenge. His team lose the final challenge so his team voted Heather off.

    Courtney - She won her fight against Duncan and the Grips won the cherring challenge. Point for Courtney.

    Harold 1x2 Courtney
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    HaydenAvery

    [213]Sep 15, 2009
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    even though harold was supposedly the biggest gaffer loser againt lindsay he still won his challenge like courtney. your as bad as coconut. so right now its a tie.
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    somewierdkid

    [214]Sep 15, 2009
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    can we at least agree about Heather having one of the most fair elimination? her TDA elimination, of course!
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    Brodoin15

    [215]Sep 15, 2009
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    I do think Heather was off in a fair way. (And it's about time.)

    I hated how she had to have a final rude remark to LeShawna though. Heather did all those bad things to everyone, and it seemed LeShawna finally tried to tell Heather that things were ok between them, and Heather goes and pulls of a remark.

    I admit, though, I expected her elimination to be a little different, like everyone cheering and stuff. But oh well, can't get what you want all the time.

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    HaydenAvery

    [216]Sep 15, 2009
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    nah leshawna deserved to go! she got lucky with that cheer and heather hadnt been doing anything bad! it was leshawnas fault for making fun of beth with more brady is fake comments which caused to beth to get mad and more confident.
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    Riankg

    [217]Sep 15, 2009
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    Ohh thanks to caall me as bad as coconut...now i see why u two are always fighting... Ohh...and yes he won his part of the challenge..but he also was in the cherring challenge -- what did he do? NOTHING...

    In the condetioning challenge, he was the worst with Lindsay..Chris even said that.. and that's why both had to fight against each other.

    EPISODE 15:

    Harold x Courtney

    conditioning challenge: 0x1
    solo challenge (against Lindsay and Duncan): 1x2
    cheering challenge: 1x3
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    imverybasic

    [218]Sep 15, 2009
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    HaydenAvery wrote:
    nah leshawna deserved to go! she got lucky with that cheer and heather hadnt been doing anything bad! it was leshawnas fault for making fun of beth with more brady is fake comments which caused to beth to get mad and more confident.

    Yep. I agree. Leshawna was the one who deserved to go, not Heather. She goes talking behind everyone's back and then all of a sudden, one cheer saves her and she's safe once again. I really hope that she goes next episode. She's been having too much luck on her side. Granted, I hope Courtney also gets what's coming to her. I hope Duncan gets back at her with something so wicked, so nasty, that she'll never even think to cross him again.

    Edited on 09/15/2009 5:08pm
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    imverybasic

    [219]Sep 15, 2009
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    And where does Leshawna get off calling Beth a liar? She's supposed to be her friend and she goes and mocks her.

    Sorry for the double post.

    Edited on 09/15/2009 5:12pm
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    imverybasic

    [220]Sep 15, 2009
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    It's funny how characters like Gwen and Leshawna are able to get away with things such as gossip and double- crossing their team mates, whereas someone as Harold just stood up for himself, and got punished for it. How is it that when someone talks behind a person's back or breaks-up with their boyfriend and then pulls an act of betrayal forgiven the next day? I need an explanation for that, because I really can't bring myself to understand it.

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