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    PerfectAgent96

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    Maria93 wrote:

    OMG !!! I bet all of this people haven't even watched avatar

    Quoting Lisa31468 : Avatar. We're not a fanbase. We're a religion. Prepare to be PWNED.
    Um....yes we have watched Avatar we just think it's inferior to naruto while the others think it's superior. We are debating our reasons why.
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    uchia2000

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    MarryLarry wrote:

    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.

    So what? Time between episodes should have no factor in how good you perceive a show to be. Take your time, you get a masterpiece; rush and you get useless filler that adds quantity but subtracts quality of the overall show.
    You don't have to watch the filler at all if you don't want to. It just gives you the option.

    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    Again, that's the fault of Nickelodeon.
    Yes but its still a fault.
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    PerfectAgent96

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    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Um...no Each naruto episode costs about 2 million. The reason it gets away with such a stagering cost is because the fanbase makes up for it, and the studio has TONS AND TONS of money, plus they have the manga that offsets costs.
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    uchia2000

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    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Ok regardless of whose fault it is its a fault..
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    MaddoKos

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.

    So what? Time between episodes should have no factor in how good you perceive a show to be. Take your time, you get a masterpiece; rush and you get useless filler that adds quantity but subtracts quality of the overall show.
    You don't have to watch the filler at all if you don't want to. It just gives you the option.

    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    Again, that's the fault of Nickelodeon.
    Yes but its still a fault.


    I think it's kind of unfair to fault a show based on the fact it got stuck with a retarded network.
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    avalame122

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    Eman5805 wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.


    Each Avatar episode costs about $1 million. I don't know what they spend on Naruto(can't be that much, IMO) each episode, but when you drop a 7 digit amount per eppy, with Nickelodeon footing the bill, you can't afford time fillers. Though we did get three funny chibi style episodes.

    Anime costs a LOT. It's just that the animation studios in Japan have plenty of cash to spend.
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    uchia2000

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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Um...no Each naruto episode costs about 2 million. The reason it gets away with such a stagering cost is because the fanbase makes up for it, and the studio has TONS AND TONS of money, plus they have the manga that offsets costs.
    Damn I didn't know it costs so much to make 1 episode!! Wonder how much a anime movie costs then.
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    Juushiro86

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    ***SPOILER***
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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Um...no Each naruto episode costs about 2 million. The reason it gets away with such a stagering cost is because the fanbase makes up for it, and the studio has TONS AND TONS of money, plus they have the manga that offsets costs.
    Its a bigger industry in Japan then.

    Quality>Quantity

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    LadyLaura26

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Ok regardless of whose fault it is its a fault..

    Avatar and Naruto both have good and bad aspects to them. Avatar starts out "ok" but gets way better and Naruto has fillers. *still laughing*

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    uchia2000

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.

    So what? Time between episodes should have no factor in how good you perceive a show to be. Take your time, you get a masterpiece; rush and you get useless filler that adds quantity but subtracts quality of the overall show.
    You don't have to watch the filler at all if you don't want to. It just gives you the option.

    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    Again, that's the fault of Nickelodeon.
    Yes but its still a fault.


    I think it's kind of unfair to fault a show based on the fact it got stuck with a retarded network.
    Well sorry but thats how it works. Their retarded network not releasing episodes really hurts the series IMO.
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    Maria93

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Maria93 wrote:

    OMG !!! I bet all of this people haven't even watched avatar

    Quoting Lisa31468 : Avatar. We're not a fanbase. We're a religion. Prepare to be PWNED.
    Your really late..

    yeah I know I was having dinner

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    PerfectAgent96

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Um...no Each naruto episode costs about 2 million. The reason it gets away with such a stagering cost is because the fanbase makes up for it, and the studio has TONS AND TONS of money, plus they have the manga that offsets costs.
    Damn I didn't know it costs so much to make 1 episode!! Wonder how much a anime movie costs then.
    Movies are 10 million. Bleach movies are a stagering 25 million.
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    Eman5805

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    avalame122 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.


    Each Avatar episode costs about $1 million. I don't know what they spend on Naruto(can't be that much, IMO) each episode, but when you drop a 7 digit amount per eppy, with Nickelodeon footing the bill, you can't afford time fillers. Though we did get three funny chibi style episodes.

    Anime costs a LOT. It's just that the animation studios in Japan have plenty of cash to spend.


    Then there's a completely different can of worms. Animation is just simply a bigger industry in Japan than in America. Like football is huge in America and not so in Japan.
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    uchia2000

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    LadyLaura26 wrote:

    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Ok regardless of whose fault it is its a fault..

    Avatar and Naruto both have good and bad aspects to them. Avatar starts out "ok" but gets way better and Naruto has fillers. *still laughing*
    Yes Naruto has fillers but Avatar episodes take forever to be released. Personally I would like the OPTION of watching an episode even if it is filler than nothing at all.
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    LadyLaura26

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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Um...no Each naruto episode costs about 2 million. The reason it gets away with such a stagering cost is because the fanbase makes up for it, and the studio has TONS AND TONS of money, plus they have the manga that offsets costs.
    Damn I didn't know it costs so much to make 1 episode!! Wonder how much a anime movie costs then.
    Movies are 10 million. Bleach movies are a stagering 25 million.

    Now we are disscusing Bleach as well? man this is fast!

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    Spacerac

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Well sorry but thats how it works. Their retarded network not releasing episodes really hurts the series IMO.
    And that's why Nickelodeon sucks, not why the show itself sucks.
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    PerfectAgent96

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    DrAvatar wrote:

    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    And Avatar has only about 2 episodes in the entire series that are total filler.
    Ok but Avatar takes forever to release episodes. At least Naruto releases episodes even if they are filler.
    The episodes were done long ago, Nickelodeon just isn't airing them b/c the executives are stupid. Also, Avatar doesnt have a manga or previous source so all the episodes need a script first. Thirdly, each episode of Avatar is its own piece of work. Animation is also more popular in Japan and its probably cheaper to produce an episode.
    Um...no Each naruto episode costs about 2 million. The reason it gets away with such a stagering cost is because the fanbase makes up for it, and the studio has TONS AND TONS of money, plus they have the manga that offsets costs.
    Its a bigger industry in Japan then.

    Quality>Quantity

    Ya large quanities of money produces the quality that is Naruto.
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    Eman5805

    [599]Jun 20, 2008
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    Coulda sworn we were discussing Avatar vs. any anime you care to compare it to.
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    MarryLarry

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    MarryLarry wrote:

    So what? Time between episodes should have no factor in how good you perceive a show to be. Take your time, you get a masterpiece; rush and you get useless filler that adds quantity but subtracts quality of the overall show.
    You don't have to watch the filler at all if you don't want to. It just gives you the option.

    This goes back to my earlier post (which most people didn't read) on how Naruto fans block out the ugly. That's like saying I can kick out all the bad parts of Avatar. If I did that, then of course it would be the best show ever (in mind only). Like it or not, those fillers are apart of the Naruto show. And technically you don't have to watch any episode since they're all optional by choice.

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