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    MarryLarry

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    acr64 wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    You have no suspension of disbelief. You can't be fun to go to the movies with.
    You know, even though I still disagree with a lot of what you've said, I have to say, you're not petty and you're arguments aren't too bad. Much better than the trolls they normally feed us. That said, even though this is a heated debate, did a pointless thread such as this one need to go on to be so long?

    It's the Domino Effect. One person says one thing, another person retorts, then a re-retort by someone else and it keeps going on and on and lasts forever...unlike dominos. I guess Cause and Effect would be a better analogy.

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    uchia2000

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    Spacerac wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    acr64 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    SilverFlames wrote:
    let's talk about another issue that Naruto has: TIME. What's up with them long-ass speeches. I mean, in Real World Time, the villain would've accomplished whatever he done by the time one of Naruto's speeches was done.

    This. See Crossroads of Destiny. Azula is smart and kills Aang while he's entering the avatar state-the only real instance of powering up in the show, might I add. Lucky us I can't give an example of a villain attacking during the middle of a speech, because in Avatar there aren't speeched that long

    Not to mention the fact that it doesn't take a SEASON to kill one enemy in ONE fight.

    Oh, and not all our non-fighting episodes are filler!
    It took you guys 3 season to kill the Firelord, and most of the Fire Nation Army. But ya it's still up and running as if Aang didn't attack at all.
    It's kind of what the whole show is about. And they did attack, and they failed. You obviously ignored Day of Black Sun.
    He said "as if" yes Aang attacked but he didn't really get much done.
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    MaddoKos

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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    Naruto's aren't really all that long, and plus they have revelant to the plot.


    His mindless, macho posturing is relevant to the plot? Some plot.
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    PerfectAgent96

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    acr64 wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.

    You have no suspension of disbelief.

    You can't be fun to go to the movies with.

    You know, even though I still disagree with a lot of what you've said, I have to say, you're not petty and you're arguments aren't too bad.
    Much better than the trolls they normally feed us.
    That said, even though this is a heated debate, did a pointless thread such as this one need to go on to be so long?
    But hey BOTH sides had fun did they not? It's always fun to have a debate to see opinions and you counter them and vice versa.
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    zukofangirl2006

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    avalame122 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    You have no suspension of disbelief. You can't be fun to go to the movies with.

    I have suspension of disbelief. When in fiction, I accept the world in it and whatever goes with that. I do not enjoy when it's set in the world that people can make explosions with a few hand signs, then monologue for two minutes without being struck. It's one thing to make an intimidating speech to the enemy before the fight or while both are panting and trying to rest. It's another to make an intimidating speech to the enemy during a pause that has no explanation besides the speech.

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    DrAvatar

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    Spacerac wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    acr64 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    SilverFlames wrote:
    let's talk about another issue that Naruto has: TIME. What's up with them long-ass speeches. I mean, in Real World Time, the villain would've accomplished whatever he done by the time one of Naruto's speeches was done.

    This. See Crossroads of Destiny. Azula is smart and kills Aang while he's entering the avatar state-the only real instance of powering up in the show, might I add. Lucky us I can't give an example of a villain attacking during the middle of a speech, because in Avatar there aren't speeched that long

    Not to mention the fact that it doesn't take a SEASON to kill one enemy in ONE fight.

    Oh, and not all our non-fighting episodes are filler!
    It took you guys 3 season to kill the Firelord, and most of the Fire Nation Army. But ya it's still up and running as if Aang didn't attack at all.
    It's kind of what the whole show is about. And they did attack, and they failed. You obviously ignored Day of Black Sun.
    At least their is a set time limit so we know when the series will end whereas Naruto will end whenever the creator feels like ending it.
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    avalame122

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    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?

    I don't like unnecessary flashbacks. There's some other things, but I need to think on what they are.
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    Spacerac

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    acr64 wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    You have no suspension of disbelief. You can't be fun to go to the movies with.
    You know, even though I still disagree with a lot of what you've said, I have to say, you're not petty and you're arguments aren't too bad. Much better than the trolls they normally feed us. That said, even though this is a heated debate, did a pointless thread such as this one need to go on to be so long?
    But hey BOTH sides had fun did they not? It's always fun to have a debate to see opinions and you counter them and vice versa.
    Agreed and it was done with relatively little flaming. (At least compared to normal)
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    uchia2000

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    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.
    The majority of Naruto isn't filler. Also I read the manga so ya.
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    avalame122

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    Naruto's aren't really all that long, and plus they have revelant to the plot.


    His mindless, macho posturing is relevant to the plot? Some plot.

    That made no sense. Naruto isn't the macho type. He's the type who does anything for those he cares about. Also, it does have relevance. You just need to understand the plot first.

    Anyway, I'm not gonna tell you what to do.
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    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    You have no suspension of disbelief. You can't be fun to go to the movies with.

    I have suspension of disbelief. When in fiction, I accept the world in it and whatever goes with that. I do not enjoy when it's set in the world that people can make explosions with a few hand signs, then monologue for two minutes without being struck. It's one thing to make an intimidating speech to the enemy before the fight or while both are panting and trying to rest. It's another to make an intimidating speech to the enemy during a pause that has no explanation besides the speech.
    and some people don't like the fact that only one person can bend all 4 elements and the other millions of benders can only bend their native one, face it: diffrent people have diffrent views
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    avalame122 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    I don't like unnecessary flashbacks. There's some other things, but I need to think on what they are.
    Both Avatar and Naruto use flashbacks. Both shows are pretty even in that category.
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    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Naruto: the friendship speeches, sasuke, orochimaru, and the worst thing ever created the 160 episodes of filler we call "hell"

    Bleach: aizen and fillers

    now what about what you hate about avatar?

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    I think we should discuss our own show's flaws now, it's a good idea I really hate some of Iroh's humor, which despite being 'purposefully unfunny' humor you don't laugh at ANY part of it because it's just a sad attempt. of course some of Iroh's stuff is funny.

    WHAT IS VERY FUNNY is Zuko's impersonations =3 But one of them is pretty corny.

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    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.

    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?


    "The Great Divide" the ultimate low point in an awesome show. If I'm showing every episode of season 1 to someone, I skip that one. Also, seasons 1's pacing. It really chugs along early. But, I can forgive it because the guys working on the show were finding their legs. A few early episodes were great, but some drug on. "Warriors of Kyoshi", "The King of Omashu", and even "The Waterbending Scroll" had this *meh* feel even though all of them have important characters that appear later.
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    Juushiro86 wrote:

    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Naruto: the friendship speeches, sasuke, orochimaru, and the worst thing ever created the 160 episodes of filler we call "hell"

    Bleach: aizen and fillers

    now what about what you hate about avatar?


    Naruto only had 85 episodes of filler.

    Anyways, I hated unnecessary flashbacks, Orochimaru's insanity, the girls being relatively weak.
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    zukofangirl2006

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    dantedones wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    zukofangirl2006 wrote:

    I only really like a few shows. FMA is a favorite of mine. Oh, Ed doesn't wait for his opponents to draw their circle most of the time, he USES his advantage. Although it's not completely free of speeches in fights, they're a lot less unbelievable.

    But back to Avatar, I don't like any show with rediculously long monologues.
    You have no suspension of disbelief. You can't be fun to go to the movies with.

    I have suspension of disbelief. When in fiction, I accept the world in it and whatever goes with that. I do not enjoy when it's set in the world that people can make explosions with a few hand signs, then monologue for two minutes without being struck. It's one thing to make an intimidating speech to the enemy before the fight or while both are panting and trying to rest. It's another to make an intimidating speech to the enemy during a pause that has no explanation besides the speech.
    and some people don't like the fact that only one person can bend all 4 elements and the other millions of benders can only bend their native one, face it: diffrent people have diffrent views

    I'm fine with that opinion, but I don't understand why you'd feel that way. Anyway I have to leave now. I'll probably end up reading this whole thread tomorrow. It's pretty funny XD Adios Avatards and Narutards!

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    uchia2000

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    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Eman5805 wrote:
    Here's a change of pace, how about we hear the Naruto and Bleach people talk about what they DON'T like with their show? I'm not afraid to say what sounds corny, nonsensical, or whatever in Avatar. Are the other fans real enough with themselves to do the same to their beloved shows?
    Personally I don't like friendship speeches and fillers. What about you?
    One of the points of Avatar is friendship, and since you don't like fillers you don't like the majority of Naruto.

    Less than half, if not less than a quarter, of Naruto is filler.
    I generally skip most of the filler but I hate how they waste time.
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