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    SilverFlames

    [201]Jun 20, 2008
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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    NAruto ain't even real ninjas.

    When I was a child I thought Ninjas were silent people that achieved their mission for good or bad.

    Not dudes in jumpsuits and spandex and massive fangirls.
    There take on Ninja's is actually ORIGINAL unlike Avatar who pretty much STEALS from other Anime shows


    LOOK MAN, YOU'VE BEEN SAYIN THAT SAME **** for 3 times now.

    OKAY PERFECTAGENT! NAME SOME STUFF THAT AVATAR STEALS FROM.
    OR ELSE, I DUB YOU AN IDIOT!
    It Steals from Naruto, Bleach, , DBZ, Xiaolin Showdown, and much more.


    Wha!? * sighs * Name reasons. Cause Avatar and Bleach got nothin alike. DBZ and Avatar definitely got nothin alike. And Xiaolin Showdown?

    Are you on cactus juice?
    Are you that blind

    Xiaolin Showdown:The four elements are EXACTLY the same and they can create it without said element being their. And the fact that they have a "Chosen One"

    DBZ:A Character who's more powerful then the others that always comes out on top.

    Bleach:Main guy is overpowered but doesn't know how to even use his powers. NAruto:Took the whole 4 nations from it, Elemental attacks, General fighting style, infact the entire fighting is ripped of Naruto except they basterdized it.


    Just so you know, DBZ ain't the 1st show with that idea, as I recall Speed Racer, he was the fastest, he ALWAYS came out on top.
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    Spacerac

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
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    Eddy654

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    SweetnesS_34 wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    SweetnesS_34 wrote:
    But to tell the truth, both Naruto and Avatar kinda suck. I mean, there's nothing amazing about any of these series, they're just kids cartoons
    Who cares about that its just a opinion a dumb one at that, dont you have something better to do than spamming.
    lol, you're the one spamming. You're on the Naruto forums 24/7, what else could you be doing on the avatar forums, other then spamming?
    At least I got a reason but whatever Im not gonna ague with you because you dont no me so you dont know what I do in my leisure.
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    Eddy654

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    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    But its the truth.
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    MaddoKos

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.


    Aang's entire culture was ethnically cleansed. I don't think it gets much harder than that.
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    SilverFlames

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    Eman5805 wrote:
    *sigh* Once again, I have to save the day. And I don't get even get a corny intro tagline like "Up in the sky...". Da well. Anyways, before tackling all the shots at bending and giving my personal explanation(next post), let me just say what pulls me, a 20 year old black male from the south, into a show like this. I won't even mention Aang, Zuko, or any main character's name after this point to give a lil showing of how deep Avatar's rabbit hole goes:

    Avatar brings strong writing into a fantasy adventure story that can get rather drab. Instead of just having Sozin start the war after killing the Avatar somehow, they had them grow up friends, but differences in philosophies and mindsets drives them apart. Until both men are in the twilight of their life and the other kills the only man that is holding back his ambitions. After thousands of years of story telling, there's nothing new under the sun, so being fresh is all about how you put your own twist on the classic friends become enemies plot. Avatar did that. And this is only a background story.

    A storyline more to the forefront but still smaller is Jet's arc. A boy with a warped sense of justice and duty. His family and home were ripped away from him as a child and was forced to raise himself. He grew up hating the Fire Nation and wanted nothing more than to make them pay, even if it meant killing non threatening FN civilians. He eventually sees the err in his ways and tries to reform. Heading to Ba Sing Se for "a new beginning" and all that, but it quickly turns sour as his old ways resurface, eventually leading to his arrest and subsequent brainwashing(yup, Avatar has brainwashing) by a third party character named, Long Feng who had his own goals in mind. Jet makes a final noble act in defying Long Feng's control on his mind, but in the end is killed by him.

    Long Feng is a character only appearing in roughly 4 episodes, but he had one of the largest impacts on the overall plot of any minor character. "The man behind the man" was controlling the Earth King along with his Dai Li agents. His tentacles if you will single handedly prevented the Earth Kingdom from doing any real fighting back against the war and made the Earth King into nothing more than a figurehead. He manipulated Jet to keep a certain main character from breaking up his little "utopia" in Ba Sing Se and would even stoop so far as to make a deal with the Fire Nation to keep everything peaches and cream. However, in the end everything came crashing down as his agents betrayed him and Ba Sing Se fell to the Fire Nation.

    Let's see, I've written quite the lil overview of what, 2 characters a few plotlines, and a bit of background on the current plot, none of which directly mentioning any main character's name. I'm not challenging ANYONE to match this with their own, but all I'm saying is there's alot there for those who care about this sort of thing in Avatar. Next, I'll get on bending and how that's expertly done in the show and even try to offer an explaination based on how info on bending is given in the show.


    Yall just got Eman'd.
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    edmasterchaos

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    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    PerfectAgent96 wrote:
    SilverFlames wrote:
    NAruto ain't even real ninjas. When I was a child I thought Ninjas were silent people that achieved their mission for good or bad. Not dudes in jumpsuits and spandex and massive fangirls.
    There take on Ninja's is actually ORIGINAL unlike Avatar who pretty much STEALS from other Anime shows
    LOOK MAN, YOU'VE BEEN SAYIN THAT SAME **** for 3 times now. OKAY PERFECTAGENT! NAME SOME STUFF THAT AVATAR STEALS FROM. OR ELSE, I DUB YOU AN IDIOT!
    It Steals from Naruto, Bleach, , DBZ, Xiaolin Showdown, and much more.
    Wha!? * sighs * Name reasons. Cause Avatar and Bleach got nothin alike. DBZ and Avatar definitely got nothin alike. And Xiaolin Showdown? Are you on cactus juice?
    Are you that blind Xiaolin Showdown:The four elements are EXACTLY the same and they can create it without said element being their. And the fact that they have a "Chosen One" DBZ:A Character who's more powerful then the others that always comes out on top. Bleach:Main guy is overpowered but doesn't know how to even use his powers. NAruto:Took the whole 4 nations from it, Elemental attacks, General fighting style, infact the entire fighting is ripped of Naruto except they basterdized it.
    Element control has been used since the 40s, you can't use that, plust, that also works againts Naruto.
    Uh, that's simple logic, someone more powerful than someone else would win.
    Bleach: again, uber spirit is a bit overused, plust, if anything you should complain about Ichigo ripping of Naruto, uber spirit inside of them, their name is a food, their hair is oddly similar.
    ok, now that's BS, Avatar scripping began before the manga was released, there are about 6 nations in naruto, 8 if you count the filles, elemental attacks, again that's anceint, you should've thought harder on that, you just contradicted yourself with Xiaolin Showdown, and the martial arts are based on not-as popular real martial arts.
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    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    Care to prove me otherwise? Give me a character from Avatar who you think had a hard past and I can find a character in Naruto who had a past 10 times worse.
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    uchia2000

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.


    Aang's entire culture was ethnically cleansed. I don't think it gets much harder than that.
    Sasukes entire clan was killed BY his brother who ended up torturing him and making him see it for 72 hours over and over again. He then had to live his life as an avenger for 11 years.
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    MaddoKos wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.


    Aang's entire culture was ethnically cleansed. I don't think it gets much harder than that.
    Naruto had no family and the village hated him he had no family memebers hidden in the leaf.
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    SilverFlames

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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    Care to prove me otherwise? Give me a character from Avatar who you think had a hard past and I can find a character in Naruto who had a past 10 times worse.


    Aang. And you're gonna say Sasuke I know it!

    Well Aang and Sasuke is tied. So what you gonna do about that.
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    Eddy654 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    But its the truth.
    That's bull.
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    SweetnesS_34

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    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.


    Aang's entire culture was ethnically cleansed. I don't think it gets much harder than that.
    Naruto had no family and the village hated him he had no family memebers hidden in the leaf.
    So what, Ash was thrown out of his house at the age of 12, and was sent off to violently hunt down dangerous monsters for a living
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    avalame122

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    Spacerac wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    But its the truth.
    That's bull.

    Okay, Naruto, Gaara, Haku, and Sasuke all had worse pasts than anyone in Avatar.
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    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.
    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate. Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable. And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    Care to prove me otherwise? Give me a character from Avatar who you think had a hard past and I can find a character in Naruto who had a past 10 times worse.

    Aang learned he was the Avatar early because the monks expected war, then ran away because they were going to send him to another Air Temple away from his beloved mentor Monk Gyatso. He then got frozen in the iceberg while running away, and then his entire race was genocide'd. Wakes up to find a girl who tells him the air nomads are extinct, later at his former home he finds the skeleton of Gyatso.

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    uchia2000

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    SilverFlames wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    Care to prove me otherwise? Give me a character from Avatar who you think had a hard past and I can find a character in Naruto who had a past 10 times worse.


    Aang. And you're gonna say Sasuke I know it!

    Well Aang and Sasuke is tied. So what you gonna do about that.
    How are they tied? Sasukes is way worse. If im not mistaken Aang still had friends from other nations. Once Sasukes family was murdered he had no1. Plus Sasuke had to witness it and it must have been harder because it was his brother that did it.
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    Eddy654

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    Spacerac wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.
    That's according to your opinion.
    But its the truth.
    That's bull.
    Really I guess you dont realize true pain.
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    avalame122

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    SweetnesS_34 wrote:
    Eddy654 wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    avalame122 wrote:
    Spacerac wrote:
    uchia2000 wrote:
    Naruto is way more mature which is why it probably attracts a larger audience then they targeted.
    I now see the light. Naruto is way more mature.

    You're obviously not up to date. Plus, a chibi doesn't prove any point except that you're desperate.

    Naruto is far more mature as there's actually character death, emotion, an actual storyline that's not one tracked, and plenty of other stuff I won't bother to list.
    So more characters dead equals a better story. Your logic is undeniable.

    And I'd call you guys desperate for tying to tell us Avatar isn't better than Naruto.
    They have much harder pasts and they are faced with much tougher choices.


    Aang's entire culture was ethnically cleansed. I don't think it gets much harder than that.
    Naruto had no family and the village hated him he had no family memebers hidden in the leaf.
    So what, Ash was thrown out of his house at the age of 12, and was sent off to violently hunt down dangerous monsters for a living

    Ash was 10.

    Plus, why are we bringing a kodomo into this?
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