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Top 10 reasons why Zutara will never happen

Which couple do you think will happen? (Not which you like)

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    haru_is_a_horse

    [101]Sep 30, 2007
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    Hey, im new.Does anyone else think they jumped into a relationship with Zuko and Mai. (We're talking about shipping right? So please don't flame me!)
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    Atu_1

    [102]Sep 30, 2007
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    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    ....the creators are trying to trick everytime..so we can't be sure
    so i guess all we have to do is stick to our ship and hope for the best
    Exactly. It is fun and passes the time to talk about it though. Really, I kind of put myself on to Katara and Aang because I know what it's like to not get that older girl you really like so that's one of my invalid reasons I want to see Aang get with Katara.
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    CoconutHead07

    [103]Sep 30, 2007
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    Atu_1 wrote:
    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    ....the creators are trying to trick everytime..so we can't be sure
    so i guess all we have to do is stick to our ship and hope for the best
    Exactly. It is fun and passes the time to talk about it though. Really, I kind of put myself on to Katara and Aang because I know what it's like to not get that older girl you really like so that's one of my invalid reasons I want to see Aang get with Katara.
    ....i'm glad that we all know that from this point on is purely out fun ...for me i would love to see zuko and katara mainly becuase everyone says that it won't happen, least likely, and katara and aang are going to be together.....and because of that i LOVE ZUTARA ..
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    Hiei1314

    [104]Sep 30, 2007
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    adam1018 wrote:
    Animecookie123 wrote:

    1. Zuko and Katara do not like each other

    2. Katara has obviously showed very strong feelings toward Aang (This meaning not of a friendship or of what you Zutarians try to say in your state of denial)

    3. Zuko is in a relationship with Mai

    4. Katara and Aang had most likely kissed in Cave of two lovers

    5. There have been about I don't know like 100 hints of Kataang and 0 hints of Zutara

    6. Oh and for that time in the cave where Katara was going to heal Zuko's scar this is not a shipping part it is that of showing thatKatara is way too forgiving.

    7. Aunt wu said Katara was gonna marry a powerful bender Aang+being avatar= Powerful bender

    8. The creators have made fun of the "Zutara" couple (Check out the question and answer session on one of the 1st season dvds)

    9. The creators had planned the couple of Aang and Katara (Kataang) before the begining of the show. (See one of the interviews with the creatorscan't remember which one)

    10. Katara wanted to kiss Aang in the cave of two lovers Note she sugested it.

    I decided to put this up because I see too many Zutarians talking up a storm about "Zutara is gonna happen no no Kataang, we're pretty much blind to the fact that there has been about 100 Kataang moments and 0 Zutara moments" blah blah etc. etc. I just decided to put that up because of that... and because I'm really bored.

    KATAANG FOREVA!!!!!!!!!

    1.When Zuko betrays the fire nation, frees Iroh, and kills azula, He's gonna get praise from Katara

    2.What feelings? When they were dancing? That was called being emberrased. You would too if you were dancing in the middle of a acadomy of future enimies, When the person you were dancing with is supposed to be your mother.

    3. Wow, this is tough.

    *Thinks for a second*

    Got it! read one, It'll have more negative things to mai's alredy negative attitude. She'll be super emo!

    4.They were despirate. It was kiss or death. Which would you choose.

    5. What do you call Crossroads of destiny? Do you know all the surprise relationships? How 'bout Suki and sokka in "the kyosi warriors"

    6. Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.

    7.You think Zuko is not a powerful bender? See his battle in crossroads.

    8-9. Do you belive nick?

    10.Because it was kiss or die.

    1. Praise does not equal love.

    2. If it would cause embarassment then why do it? Would you rather dance with someone that would make you embarassed...or better yet, ask someone who you have feelings for to dance? ...Yeah. That's what I thought.

    3. I personally don't think Maiko will last, but who says that Zuko will go running to Katara? Are you forgetting Jin, or are you ruling out the possibility that there are other females left in the world?

    4. It wasn't kiss or death. Think a little.

    5. I call the Crossroads of Destiny a huge turning point, and even more proof of Kataang, and not Zutara.

    6. And you keep telling yourself that every kind and forgiving gesture between a girl and a guy is sexual.

    7. Yeah, Zuko's strong. Azula's way stronger. Wow, I am now shipping Kazula! Who's with me? But seriously: Dude, everyone knows the Avatar as the most powerful bender. Who's the Avatar again? Oh yeah, Aang!

    8-9. No, but I do believe the creators of Avatar.

    10. Ahem. NOT kiss or die. It was put out the torches or die. And Katara suggested that it was kiss or die. Thank you for proving our point.

    KATAANG!!!

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    avrurakinninami

    [105]Sep 30, 2007
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    technicly he's not only a simple bender, you cant say he is. He's THE AVATAR not just a SIMPLE POWERFULL BENDER, so ITs all the way Zuko, nobody else, just Zuko, he will become the most powerfull bender, because he dont need any training at all (see his progress in CoD). So Aang is not just a bender, he's the avatar, big difference between those words, lady.
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    CoconutHead07

    [106]Sep 30, 2007
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    yea basically ZUTARA ZUTARA!!......i would boo kataang but i'd get booed back
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    shamp00h

    [107]Sep 30, 2007
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    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    i just came to say i don't care about all your reasons for zutara not happening i could clearly name all of reasons about kataang not happening but i choose not to......because obviously you wouldn't care to hear my opinion........you're sooo narrow minded


    I wouldn't mind taking a look at what you have to say about Kataang. One of the main and common reasons you Zutarians come up with on why Kataang ain't going to happen usually concerns about their age difference. Come on, age differences are a grain of salt and doesn't hold much importance in relationships. The recent episode(The Headband) goes to show that Katara does harbor feelings for Aang, seeing how sour her retort was to Sokka when he suggested that Aang and Onji looked pretty good together. Or put simply, she was jealous, which eliminates the possibility that Katara only cares for Aang as her son or younger brother.

    Now, you might say that one measly episode isn't going to determine who's going to end up with who. But most of the Zutarians also used 'The Waterbending Scroll' and 'The Crossroads of Destiny' as back-ups.

    adam1018 wrote:
    2.What feelings? When they were dancing? That was called being emberrased. You would too if you were dancing in the middle of a acadomy of future enimies, When the person you were dancing with is supposed to be your mother.


    I beg to differ. When you are being sandwiched between your enemies, you either get nervous or break out in cold sweat, not embarrassed. Unless you happen to fart and the whole cohort heard it, then yeah, I have no qualms about them blushing madly. And I suppose that only the headmaster knows that Katara is playing as Aang's mother, knowing that Aang only brought Sokka and Katara to the school AFTER lessons when everyone has gone home, unless I've heard wrongly. But at the end of the day, whether Kataang or Zutara happens or not, we shall still continue shipping our own ship and dedicate fanfics, etc. Since that is what shipping is all about in the first place.
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    pottergurl17

    [108]Sep 30, 2007
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    As a supporter of Kataang, I can say that there is a possibility of a Zutura. Now don't jump all over me before a state my reason. While I believe that the romantic ship will be Kataang, Zutara will flourish in the form of a friendship. We all can agree that Zuko is good (troubled and confused but good) and that he will ultimately be the next Fire Lord. It is possible that after everything is all said and done, Katara will be part of his regular correspondence. The possibility of being friends has my support more than being attracted to each other.
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    StorminNorman23

    [109]Oct 1, 2007
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    Wanna know why it can never happen ? Let me tell you, because Aang/Azula will kill him, I'm betting on the Avatar doing it though. He has to die, look at Roku's failure, The avatar must kill the son of the fire lord.

    He's insane, he's a crybaby. You think he'll turn over a new leaf again ? Look at what happen in season 2, not that I didn't see it coming. He's tried to kill Katara, he's tried to kill the Avatar a lot more then once and he hired a hitman to take him out just last episode, yet these people think "well, I think he'll be a good guy!"

    No, it's Aang Vs Zuko, until death. In the end, the people that need to die will be killed, the hero will get the girl, the world would be saved. Although one more way to go would be Katara getting killed 3 episodes before the last episode and then Aang giving his life to save the world but, yeah.

    Edit: "We all can agree that Zuko is good (troubled and confused but good) and that he will ultimately be the next Fire Lord." No, we can't, he's crazy and needs to be taken out, just like his sister. Only thing I agree on is that he will be the next Fire Lord and looking at Roku failure, one thing the avatar knows is that he can't be soft and hope for the best, he's got to kill him.

    Edited on 10/01/2007 12:51am
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    weird0_

    [110]Oct 1, 2007
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    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    yea basically ZUTARA ZUTARA!!......i would boo kataang but i'd get booed back


    LOL. I bet. It's the war against pairings. Like for example, the NarutoSakura vs. SasukeSakura vs. NarutoHinata etc.

    Or the IchigoRukia vs. IchigoOrihime vs. IshidaOrihime. It's how it is. Every pairing has a chance, as long as there is time. Anything can happen. I'm neutral most pairings, but in the end, either someone will end with someone, or end up with no one at all.

    -
    And I don't think Zuko will die. Why? Because he has fans. A lot of fans at that. The creators usually hate killing off popular characters unless they FOR SURE know that they won't kill off a large fanbase with it.

    And there's my reasoning.

    Moral? Anything can happen. Kataang or Zutara.
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    MaryS-NJ

    [111]Oct 1, 2007
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    StorminNorman23 wrote:

    Wanna know why it can never happen ? Let me tell you, because Aang/Azula will kill him,

    I'm betting on the Avatar doing it though. He has to die, look at Roku's failure, The avatar must kill the son of the fire lord.

    He's insane, he's a crybaby. You think he'll turn over a new leaf again ? Look at what happen in season 2, not that I didn't see it coming. He's tried to kill Katara, he's tried to kill the Avatar a lot more then once and he hired a hitman to take him out just last episode, yet these people think "well, I think he'll be a good guy!"

    No, it's Aang Vs Zuko, until death. In the end, the people that need to die will be killed, the hero will get the girl, the world would be saved. Although one more way to go would be Katara getting killed 3 episodes before the last episode and then Aang giving his life to save the world but, yeah.

    Edit: "We all can agree that Zuko is good (troubled and confused but good) and that he will ultimately be the next Fire Lord." No, we can't, he's crazy and needs to be taken out, just like his sister. Only thing I agree on is that he will be the next Fire Lord and looking at Roku failure, one thing the avatar knows is that he can't be soft and hope for the best, he's got to kill him.

    As someone pointed out upthread, it's a kids' show on a kids' network. Do you really think they will kill off one of the most popular characters on the show - even if he was/is the anti-hero?

    They haven't killed Iroh, who is called a "tratior" by the Fire Lord. Many countries execute traitors but Iroh's still alive - in prison, and will remain there until somebody frees him.

    And assuming Zuko does get killed, can you see the Avatar doing it? Aang is about balance and has a respect for life. He doesn't even eat meat. He battles defensively, not offensively. The only way I think Aang would kill anyone is if it were absolutely necessary to save the lives of others who are directly being targeted.

    The reason Zuko was banished in the first place is because he objected to using soldiers in a way that lead to their unnecessary deaths. Zuko would have to be deliberately targeting innocent people, which he hasn't shown any interest in doing so far - well, except the Avatar and his friends (for very specific reasons), and he didn't necessarily want Aang dead, just captured.

    As for Zutara, I think it's a lot more compelling a prospect than Kataang for a whole bunch of reasons, but the writers apparently don't want to go there, except of course, to use Zutara shippers by luring them with bait and switch teasers, then giving no payoff. I'll live with the fact that they may envision and plan a Kataang ending (meh), but if the writers really don't want to encourage the Zutara aspect, they should stop toying with us, because it's disrespectful to a loyal sub-set of fans.

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    avrurakinninami

    [112]Oct 1, 2007
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    weird0_ wrote:
    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    yea basically ZUTARA ZUTARA!!......i would boo kataang but i'd get booed back


    LOL. I bet. It's the war against pairings. Like for example, the NarutoSakura vs. SasukeSakura vs. NarutoHinata etc.

    Or the IchigoRukia vs. IchigoOrihime vs. IshidaOrihime. It's how it is. Every pairing has a chance, as long as there is time. Anything can happen. I'm neutral most pairings, but in the end, either someone will end with someone, or end up with no one at all.

    -
    And I don't think Zuko will die. Why? Because he has fans. A lot of fans at that. The creators usually hate killing off popular characters unless they FOR SURE know that they won't kill off a large fanbase with it.

    And there's my reasoning.

    Moral? Anything can happen. Kataang or Zutara.


    YEs
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    blackfire_bird

    [113]Oct 1, 2007
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    avrurakinninami wrote:
    weird0_ wrote:
    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    yea basically ZUTARA ZUTARA!!......i would boo kataang but i'd get booed back


    LOL. I bet. It's the war against pairings. Like for example, the NarutoSakura vs. SasukeSakura vs. NarutoHinata etc.

    Or the IchigoRukia vs. IchigoOrihime vs. IshidaOrihime. It's how it is. Every pairing has a chance, as long as there is time. Anything can happen. I'm neutral most pairings, but in the end, either someone will end with someone, or end up with no one at all.

    -
    And I don't think Zuko will die. Why? Because he has fans. A lot of fans at that. The creators usually hate killing off popular characters unless they FOR SURE know that they won't kill off a large fanbase with it.

    And there's my reasoning.

    Moral? Anything can happen. Kataang or Zutara.


    YEs


    Yes.
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    avrurakinninami

    [114]Oct 1, 2007
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    Why are saying the same thing ? ($?%&)
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    StorminNorman23

    [115]Oct 1, 2007
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    MaryS-NJ wrote:
    StorminNorman23 wrote:

    Wanna know why it can never happen ? Let me tell you, because Aang/Azula will kill him,

    I'm betting on the Avatar doing it though. He has to die, look at Roku's failure, The avatar must kill the son of the fire lord.

    He's insane, he's a crybaby. You think he'll turn over a new leaf again ? Look at what happen in season 2, not that I didn't see it coming. He's tried to kill Katara, he's tried to kill the Avatar a lot more then once and he hired a hitman to take him out just last episode, yet these people think "well, I think he'll be a good guy!"

    No, it's Aang Vs Zuko, until death. In the end, the people that need to die will be killed, the hero will get the girl, the world would be saved. Although one more way to go would be Katara getting killed 3 episodes before the last episode and then Aang giving his life to save the world but, yeah.

    Edit: "We all can agree that Zuko is good (troubled and confused but good) and that he will ultimately be the next Fire Lord." No, we can't, he's crazy and needs to be taken out, just like his sister. Only thing I agree on is that he will be the next Fire Lord and looking at Roku failure, one thing the avatar knows is that he can't be soft and hope for the best, he's got to kill him.

    As someone pointed out upthread, it's a kids' show on a kids' network. Do you really think they will kill off one of the most popular characters on the show - even if he was/is the anti-hero?

    They haven't killed Iroh, who is called a "tratior" by the Fire Lord. Many countries execute traitors but Iroh's still alive - in prison, and will remain there until somebody frees him.

    And assuming Zuko does get killed, can you see the Avatar doing it? Aang is about balance and has a respect for life. He doesn't even eat meat. He battles defensively, not offensively. The only way I think Aang would kill anyone is if it were absolutely necessary to save the lives of others who are directly being targeted.

    The reason Zuko was banished in the first place is because he objected to using soldiers in a way that lead to their unnecessary deaths. Zuko would have to be deliberately targeting innocent people, which he hasn't shown any interest in doing so far - well, except the Avatar and his friends (for very specific reasons), and he didn't necessarily want Aang dead, just captured.

    As for Zutara, I think it's a lot more compelling a prospect than Kataang for a whole bunch of reasons, but the writers apparently don't want to go there, except of course, to use Zutara shippers by luring them with bait and switch teasers, then giving no payoff. I'll live with the fact that they may envision and plan a Kataang ending (meh), but if the writers really don't want to encourage the Zutara aspect, they should stop toying with us, because it's disrespectful to a loyal sub-set of fans.

    Kids show, yes, maybe, but it isn't like people haven't died in Avatar, A popular character will die in S3, bet on it.

    Aang is about balance and has a respect for life ? True enough. He's also the Avatar, he has to do what must be done to save the world, that means in some cases, kill. Have you watched the video with the flashback to Roku's days as Avatar ?


    ***SPOILER***


    What do you think he'll do to the Fire lord ? Put him in Prison ? No, the avatar will kill him.

    didn't necessarily want Aang dead, just captured. - What ? You mean he wasn't trying to kill the Avatar at the end of S2 ? You mean he didn't hire a "hitman" to "end" Aang in "The Headband" ? Why did you think he wanted to capture him ? For some tea ? To shoot some hoops ? He was going to kill him/let his father kill him.

    Because when I see things like that I tend to believe he's trying to have him killed. He turned his back on the only person that ever cared for him, he's tried to kill the 1 person that can save the world and stop his father.

    I can understand this troubled teen, tryingto get his father's respect BS but what it boils down to is the fact he's the son of the Fire lord, he will stay true to the Fire lord and if he gets in the way of Aang trying to defeat the Fire lord, then yes, there is a chance he will die.

    He battles defensively, not offensively. - You're right about this, what did it lead to ? The Fall of Ba Sing Se, his failure. So I don't expect he'll be like that in S3.

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    Human04

    [116]Oct 1, 2007
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    Ahhh shipping wars... I live for these! Kattaang all the way!! Yeah! Kataang has doughnuts and pie. Zutara has burt pieces of coal! oh! Ok.. thats besides the point. Zutara woould be fine if it acctually happened, but there has been no progress and a ton of hints at Kataang. So Kataang wins! What now?! oh!
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    Animecookie123

    [118]Oct 1, 2007
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    *sigh* denial, denial, denial *shakes head* (O.O I'm still wondering why this is on 6 pages) Though we have no proof that either couple will happenwho knows maybe there will be no couple will happen... LOL! Let's get serious! It is up to the creators to decide which couple will happen! The creators have made fun of Zutara on the question and answer session on the first season dvds: "Will Zuko and Katara ever get together" "I think you should be more worried about the momo and appa couple *giggles*" with the response of Katara and Aang "Will Katara and Aang ever be more than just friends?" "You're just gonna have to wait and find out", listen people you can rant about all your fantasies about Zuko and Katara, hell you can even make a relgion about this if you wanty to. But the fact is it is up to the creators, and they even had said they have been plotting the relationship between Aang and Katara to the response of about people saying they persuaded the creators to make the couple happen. Why don't you just listen to the creators point of view and get outof your Zutara la la land of denial. But on a side note I love debating so keep shooting your stuff out there! This is so much fun!
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    avrurakinninami

    [119]Oct 1, 2007
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    You will need more that only 10 reasons to prove it, make a thesis about it.

    And dont call that a fantaisies lady, like they said i the mag, if the creators are making a scene just to show Katara and Zuko together, its more that only a fantasy, they wanted to make it, still Zutara can happen.

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    CoconutHead07

    [120]Oct 1, 2007
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    [QUOTE="shamp00h"]
    CoconutHead07 wrote:
    i just came to say i don't care about all your reasons for zutara not happening i could clearly name all of reasons about kataang not happening but i choose not to......because obviously you wouldn't care to hear my opinion........you're sooo narrow minded


    I wouldn't mind taking a look at what you have to say about Kataang. One of the main and common reasons you Zutarians come up with on why Kataang ain't going to happen usually concerns about their age difference. Come on, age differences are a grain of salt and doesn't hold much importance in relationships. The recent episode(The Headband) goes to show that Katara does harbor feelings for Aang, seeing how sour her retort was to Sokka when he suggested that Aang and Onji looked pretty good together. Or put simply, she was jealous, which eliminates the possibility that Katara only cares for Aang as her son or younger brother.

    Now, you might say that one measly episode isn't going to determine who's going to end up with who. But most of the Zutarians also used 'The Waterbending Scroll' and 'The Crossroads of Destiny' as back-ups.

    [QUOTE] yea you kind read my mind there but i wouldn't mention them becuase i would assume that you and everybody else know therefore making the argument pointless and making go in circle.....thanks for saying that you would listen ...much appreciated
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