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    Witchfan08

    [221]Dec 9, 2006
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    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

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    2wingo

    [222]Dec 9, 2006
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    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    Zuko has chosen his destiny. Even if his story isn't over, we all know how it's gonna go. It actually, in a weird, indirect way, confirms that Zutara is about the chemistry, not love. Because Zuko is so unstable.

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    Eyes_Only61646

    [223]Dec 9, 2006
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    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    NEW FAVORITE PERSON!!!!!!!!!! ^_^
    ((Zuko has to be good, how else will Zutara happen??))
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    2wingo

    [224]Dec 9, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    NEW FAVORITE PERSON!!!!!!!!!! ^_^ ((Zuko has to be good, how else will Zutara happen??))

    It's easy: Zutara WON'T happen. Don't get me wrong, I love Zutara. I was probably one of the first Zutara fans. But I have to admit, Zutara isn't about love. It's about chemistry. Would I love for it to happen? Of course! Is it likely to happen? Nope. Of course, Katara could also turn evil, too . . .

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    BrainMan820

    [225]Dec 9, 2006
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    You can't make the assumption that Zuko is 100% evil with no redemption. He still doubted his path he chose, and hasn't whole-heartedly committed to evil. He simply chose one because he has to.

    Azula, however, is characterized by her abject lack of emotion. She's really aloof. She's really more of a "mission, mission, always the mission" person. Think about it, after Zuko escaped from her in "The Avatar State" and "The Chase" she didn't persue him. She went for Ba Sing Se. Plus, she denied chasing Zuko to get the Avatar. For being given the mission of eliminating her brother and uncle, she's quite willing to put it off and wait.
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    2wingo

    [226]Dec 10, 2006
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    BrainMan820 wrote:
    You can't make the assumption that Zuko is 100% evil with no redemption. He still doubted his path he chose, and hasn't wholeheartedly committed to evil. He simply chose one because he has to.

    Azula, however, is characterized by her abject lack of emotion. She's really aloof. She's really more of a "mission, mission, always the mission" person. Think about it, after Zuko escaped from her in "The Avatar State" and "The Chase" she didn't pursue him. She went for Ba Sing Se. Plus, she denied chasing Zuko to get the Avatar. For being given the mission of eliminating her brother and uncle, she's quite willing to put it off and wait.

    I never said that he was 100% evil. No one is 100% evil. I'm just saying that he has sealed his own destiny. Whatever happens to him now he has brought upon himself. There is no fate but what we make for ourselves, and Zuko has made his fate.

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    andreitayehp

    [227]Dec 12, 2006
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    andreitayehp wrote:

    I think Zuko will betray his sister, I thibk Ozai hates him because Aunt Wu Told him his son was about to deadthrone him, and will be the most powerfull firebender.

    Azula: I think she is not evil, really, I think she is being controlled by those two crones we saw in return to omashu and the avatar state, I think they controled her because since she was a 10 years old girl they realised she was a firebender prodigy, and they want to control the wolrd, or some crap like that, and I think that's the reason her flames are blue. Why?: Ursa wondered what was grong with her daughter, so she wasn't like that before, I don't think she has evilness in her blood, Ursa wasn't evil, it seems that in zuko alone Ozai was sad when her wife disapered, Iroh is not evil, Zuko remembered playing with her in the storm chapter, as a good memory, I just think the royal family is being controlled, Azula maybe is a firebending prodigy, but maybe was emotionaly weak, maybe Iroh is not evil because he is stronger that ozai and the crones weren't able to controll him, and Ursa doesn't seem to be the I love an evil guy type.

    I think Zuko has a plan to obtain the dai lee cobntrol, so the gang will know, he'll tell them all azula's plan as the blue spirit and will obtain mai and ty lee's trust, Zutara will happen, until toph tells zuko: "I'm sick of those 5 b1tches" "they are 3, toph", "no! they are 5!, but just the 3 youngers fight, the other just look at us", so he'll discover wath the crones have done with his sister, and he will remind she was good... he'll try to set her free, but the crones will realise zuko is stronger than ever, even than his father and sister, because he opened his chakras or some crap like that, and they'll set free Azula to gain controll over Zuko, making him the most evil character we've seen in AVATAR. So he'll lock the 3 ex b1tches, and Azula will cry, and she'll suffer, for his loved brother, and for her mother, and will ask for forgivennes to her now real friends, and it will be as she had woken up for a nightmare, she'll scape, and will go to the gang, and she'll be a nun, and she'll be katara's best friend and will finish Aang's training, because she had killed Iroh, and Katara and she will suffer, because Zuzu is now evil.

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    ardron

    [228]Dec 12, 2006
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    Why does there have to be a different side to Azula? It is pretty plain that she is very evil.
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    dafrogg

    [229]Dec 12, 2006
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    while an intresting debate, the thing is it isn't real life. It's a show following a script/storyboard. All the same things don't seemingly apply. Just something to keep in mind.
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    2wingo

    [230]Dec 13, 2006
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    ardron wrote:
    Why does there have to be a different side to Azula? It is pretty plain that she is very evil.

    But that's not the only side to her. It's just the only side we ever see.

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    Eyes_Only61646

    [231]Dec 14, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    NEW FAVORITE PERSON!!!!!!!!!! ^_^ ((Zuko has to be good, how else will Zutara happen??))

    It's easy: Zutara WON'T happen. Don't get me wrong, I love Zutara. I was probably one of the first Zutara fans. But I have to admit, Zutara isn't about love. It's about chemistry. Would I love for it to happen? Of course! Is it likely to happen? Nope. Of course, Katara could also turn evil, too . . .

    True...**Watches the seas boil away**
    I'm a ((somewhat overly)) loyal member of the Zutarian empire. I would be f*ing ECSTATIC if they made Zutara happen. However, based on the current course the shows been taking, I don't see the necissary changes to bring on Zutara-ness happening soon. However, just as Rae/Rob and Dramione shippers haven't given up, neither should Zutara!!!((**Is all three**))
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    2wingo

    [232]Dec 16, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    NEW FAVORITE PERSON!!!!!!!!!! ^_^ ((Zuko has to be good, how else will Zutara happen??))

    It's easy: Zutara WON'T happen. Don't get me wrong, I love Zutara. I was probably one of the first Zutara fans. But I have to admit, Zutara isn't about love. It's about chemistry. Would I love for it to happen? Of course! Is it likely to happen? Nope. Of course, Katara could also turn evil, too . . .

    True...**Watches the seas boil away**
    I'm a ((somewhat overly)) loyal member of the Zutarian empire. I would be f*ing ECSTATIC if they made Zutara happen. However, based on the current course the shows been taking, I don't see the necessary changes to bring on Zutara-ness happening soon. However, just as Rae/Rob and Dramione shippers haven't given up, neither should Zutara!!!((**Is all three**))

    Even though I happen to be both a RobStar and Ronmione shipper, what you say makes sense. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT!!!???!!!

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    Eyes_Only61646

    [233]Dec 17, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    NEW FAVORITE PERSON!!!!!!!!!! ^_^ ((Zuko has to be good, how else will Zutara happen??))

    It's easy: Zutara WON'T happen. Don't get me wrong, I love Zutara. I was probably one of the first Zutara fans. But I have to admit, Zutara isn't about love. It's about chemistry. Would I love for it to happen? Of course! Is it likely to happen? Nope. Of course, Katara could also turn evil, too . . .

    True...**Watches the seas boil away**
    I'm a ((somewhat overly)) loyal member of the Zutarian empire. I would be f*ing ECSTATIC if they made Zutara happen. However, based on the current course the shows been taking, I don't see the necessary changes to bring on Zutara-ness happening soon. However, just as Rae/Rob and Dramione shippers haven't given up, neither should Zutara!!!((**Is all three**))

    Even though I happen to be both a RobStar and Ronmione shipper, what you say makes sense. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT!!!???!!!

    **Looks around**.....WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ((You're weird...))
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    dumb_person1

    [234]Dec 17, 2006
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    she's the evilest character yet appeared, I think the Fire Lord is even more eviler.
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    2wingo

    [235]Dec 17, 2006
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    dumb_person1 wrote:
    she's the evilest character yet appeared, I think the Fire Lord is even more eviler.

    Neither "evilest" nor "eviler" are real words. The proper terms are "Most Evil" and "More Evil."

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    2wingo

    [236]Dec 17, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    Witchfan08 wrote:

    ???? Just because she's never had love from her mother doesn't make her evil, her choices make her evil. I know you're not supposed to look at people in black and white, but at some point you have to think to yourself: "Girl, where do you get the idea that its okay to be like that?"

    You're evil Azula- end of story.

    But Zuko-I don't think his story is quite finished yet.

    NEW FAVORITE PERSON!!!!!!!!!! ^_^ ((Zuko has to be good, how else will Zutara happen??))

    It's easy: Zutara WON'T happen. Don't get me wrong, I love Zutara. I was probably one of the first Zutara fans. But I have to admit, Zutara isn't about love. It's about chemistry. Would I love for it to happen? Of course! Is it likely to happen? Nope. Of course, Katara could also turn evil, too . . .

    True...**Watches the seas boil away**
    I'm a ((somewhat overly)) loyal member of the Zutarian empire. I would be f*ing ECSTATIC if they made Zutara happen. However, based on the current course the shows been taking, I don't see the necessary changes to bring on Zutara-ness happening soon. However, just as Rae/Rob and Dramione shippers haven't given up, neither should Zutara!!!((**Is all three**))

    Even though I happen to be both a RobStar and Ronmione shipper, what you say makes sense. WHAT'S UP WITH THAT!!!???!!!

    **Looks around**.....WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! ((You're weird...))

    Omnia mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis.

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    Eyes_Only61646

    [237]Dec 17, 2006
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    dafrogg wrote:
    while an intresting debate, the thing is it isn't real life. It's a show following a script/storyboard. All the same things don't seemingly apply. Just something to keep in mind.
    You must not have met the Avatar Fangirls...NEVER say that to one of them...Us.
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    5Cartooner9

    [238]Dec 17, 2006
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    Azula is not good and needing a hug, she's EVIL!!!
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    2wingo

    [239]Dec 17, 2006
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    5Cartooner9 wrote:
    Azula is not good and needing a hug, she's EVIL!!!

    Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.

    Edited on 12/17/2006 6:14pm
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    Eyes_Only61646

    [240]Dec 18, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:

    5Cartooner9 wrote:
    Azula is not good and needing a hug, she's EVIL!!!

    Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus.

    Plagerism!!
    And I'd be glad to let a sword 'tickle' Azula's heart out. Literally. ((I just found out that I'm a very mean person...Why not take it out on Azula??))
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