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The REAL Truth about Azula.

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    KikitheFiend

    [1301]Jun 20, 2008
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    I'm fairly inactive as I went to boarding school (but I finished today)!
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    ThoughtBender

    [1302]Jun 20, 2008
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    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.
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    MaddoKos

    [1303]Jun 20, 2008
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    ThoughtBender wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.


    And I'm from the school of thought that says she's rotten to the core, as evil as they come, and makes Caligula look nice by comparison (okay, maybe that's pushing it a little) and needs to get pwned (am I using that term correctly?)
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    KikitheFiend

    [1304]Jun 20, 2008
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    yes!
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    Pumpkinhead1870

    [1305]Jun 20, 2008
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    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.

    Oh please, you're giving her way more credit than is really due. She's nohing more than a pyscho biotch that needs to be stopped. I love Avatar and all, but not all the characters really have that much depth to them (Although, I was happily surprised by Mai).

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    MaddoKos

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    Pumpkinhead1870 wrote:

    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.

    Oh please, you're giving her way more credit than is really due. She's nohing more than a pyscho biotch that needs to be stopped. I love Avatar and all, but not all the characters really have that much depth to them (Although, I was happily surprised by Mai).



    Wow. The Narutards are crawlin' outta the woodwork tonight!
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    Glitterstrar

    [1308]Jun 25, 2008
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    Who cares about Azula. It's Zuko that needs the hug people!
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    Maylene

    [1309]Aug 17, 2008
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    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.


    It's scary that this turned out to be true. She needed a hug from her mommy.
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    speechless8582

    [1310]Aug 17, 2008
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    Maylene wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.


    It's scary that this turned out to be true. She needed a hug from her mommy.
    lol! that person was totally right. i'm sure he/she was watching the finale all "i knew it!"
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    TitanPredator

    [1311]Aug 17, 2008
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    dumbTVnut wrote:
    qweasdzse, I don't think I have ever seen her ass in the show, a picture would be nice... very nice. Azula could someday become good, you know like vageta or something, It woudl be nice, but its not likely.

    I don't agree. Vegeta can be better compared to Zuko, not Azula. Vegeta actually cared about his people, Azula doesn't. She only cares about herself.

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    SalKing2

    [1312]Aug 17, 2008
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    speechless8582 wrote:
    Maylene wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.
    It's scary that this turned out to be true. She needed a hug from her mommy.
    lol! that person was totally right. i'm sure he/she was watching the finale all "i knew it!"

    Azula always showed signs of insanity and mental unstability, but that all stems from her lack of affection from her mother. The creator of this thread is right, Ursa loved and adored Zuko, but she never showed similar signs of that love to Azula. Is it not all of Ursa's fault for what Azula became?

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    isabelwhatx

    [1313]Aug 31, 2008
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    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.

    Wow, even two years before this question was answered you still got it right. Kudos But Ursa was not cruel to Azula, she just simply ignored her. That's your only flaw.
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    Axrendale

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    Wow... I remember this thread from a long, long time ago.

    I too congratulate the maker - you turned out to be spot on, after all.

    Azula's main problem (in my opinion) is that she has absolutley no clue how to interact with people in a healthy way. All she knows how to do is manipulate and/or dominate them. She needs to learn how to show and return affection. Based on what we have seen, it seems almost incontrivertible that Ursa was the person mainly at fault for this.

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    Bluefiremaster

    [1315]Sep 1, 2008
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    Axrendale wrote:

    Wow... I remember this thread from a long, long time ago.

    I too congratulate the maker - you turned out to be spot on, after all.

    Azula's main problem (in my opinion) is that she has absolutley no clue how to interact with people in a healthy way. All she knows how to do is manipulate and/or dominate them. She needs to learn how to show and return affection. Based on what we have seen, it seems almost incontrivertible that Ursa was the person mainly at fault for this.

    u can also blame ozai. he shut her up in that damn palace all her life. so she only learned to interact with servents and we all no how that ended.

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    gilvatar

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.

    Wow, even two years before this question was answered you still got it right. Kudos But Ursa was not cruel to Azula, she just simply ignored her. That's your only flaw.
    I think Ursa was "stren and diciplining" to Azula so she'd get "Oh, this is wrong" and stop it.
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    isabelwhatx

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    She wasn't any more stern to Azula than Zuko. The real basis of Azula's insanity was the fact that Ursa didn't spend enough time with her as a child.
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    PsychoPass

    [1318]Sep 2, 2008
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    We'll never know the "real" truth, *in Forrest Gump's voice* and that's all I have to say about that.
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    Axrendale

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    The thing is that the "real truth", as Psychpass put it, is actually irrelevant, It doesn't matter whether Ursa was a good mother or not - the point is that Azula clearly thought she was rejecting her, and that was what did the damage; Azula's interpretation of what happened.
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