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The REAL Truth about Azula.

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    mblizzow

    [201]Nov 30, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:
    Am I TRULY the only one on this topic??with a??soul that's enlightened enough to??look beyond what I have seen and allow my heart to go out to someone who sincerely needs it? Because that's the message I'm getting from most of you.


    that is the kind of attitude that will get you killed in that place, where survival is key, normally one doesnt walk into the lion's den with flowers and a smile.
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    Eyes_Only61646

    [202]Nov 30, 2006
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    mblizzow wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    Am I TRULY the only one on this topic??with a??soul that's enlightened enough to??look beyond what I have seen and allow my heart to go out to someone who sincerely needs it? Because that's the message I'm getting from most of you.


    that is the kind of attitude that will get you killed in that place, where survival is key, normally one doesnt walk into the lion's den with flowers and a smile.
    I'd walk in with a smile, flowers, and a shotgun for 'just in case'. I'm all for optimism, but caution is a good thing.
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    masterofaeons

    [203]Nov 30, 2006
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    To me safe sex means knowing where the door is for a quick escape should things take a turn for the "crazy b****".
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    StarWarsGuru66

    [204]Nov 30, 2006
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    ardron wrote:
    The REAL Truth about Azula is that she is an insecure femal with a black heart, too much talent, and no common sence........

    yes she has a heart a black as coal and her talent and lack of common sence will probley be the cause of her defeat.she is to confident in her abilty's.

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    2wingo

    [205]Nov 30, 2006
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    To me safe sex means knowing where the door is for a quick escape should things take a turn for the "crazy b****".

    I agree. This is probably the first and last time you and I will ever agree on a subject.

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    mblizzow

    [206]Nov 30, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    To me safe sex means knowing where the door is for a quick escape should things take a turn for the "crazy b****".

    I agree. This is probably the first and last time you and I will ever agree on a subject.


    i thought we were talking about a 14 year old cartoon character, not some bar fly with a bad attitude.
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    ardron

    [207]Nov 30, 2006
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    mblizzow wrote:
    2wingo wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    To me safe means knowing where the door is for a quick escape should things take a turn for the "crazy b****".

    I agree. This is probably the first and last time you and I will ever agree on a subject.
    i thought we were talking about a 14 year old cartoon character, not some bar fly with a bad attitude.

    Ya seriously.

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    2wingo

    [208]Nov 30, 2006
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    ardron wrote:
    mblizzow wrote:
    2wingo wrote:

    masterofaeons wrote:
    To me safe means knowing where the door is for a quick escape should things take a turn for the "crazy b****".

    I agree. This is probably the first and last time you and I will ever agree on a subject.
    i thought we were talking about a 14 year old cartoon character, not some bar fly with a bad attitude.

    Ya seriously.

    We are, it's just that masterofaeons and I never agree on anything, and now we have something that we agree completely on.

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    masterofaeons

    [209]Nov 30, 2006
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    Hey...was I the barfly with a bad attitude in that remark?

    *drinks an ale and broods*
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    Eyes_Only61646

    [210]Dec 1, 2006
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    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hey...was I the barfly with a bad attitude in that remark?

    *drinks an ale and broods*
    NO, moa, what'd make you think THAT?!?
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    2wingo

    [211]Dec 3, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    masterofaeons wrote:
    Hey...was I the barfly with a bad attitude in that remark? *drinks an ale and broods*
    NO, moa, what'd make you think THAT?!?

    And we're back to square one, ladies and gentlemen.

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    2wingo

    [212]Dec 3, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    2wingo wrote:

    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    ardron wrote:
    The REAL Truth about Azula is that she is an insecure femal with a black heart, too much talent, and no common sence........
    ...I'll go with that!

    This reminds me of an old Chinese proverb "The Fires of Tribulation may forge a will of iron, but they may also warp a heart of gold." Although that one may be better applied to Zuko, now that I think about.
    ...Do you come with subtitles??

    Only if you pay extra.

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    Law20

    [213]Dec 3, 2006
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    gunswordfist wrote:
    Nalesnik wrote:
    gunswordfist wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    I am of a decidedly rare school of thought, one that would benefit you all to hear: Azula is not truly evil. She is mental unstable from one of life's most soul-crushing pains: Perceived lack of maternal love. When she was a little girl (as we saw in "Zuko Alone"), Fire-Lady Ursa was hardly ever anything but stern and disciplining toward Azula, while Zuko was given the full force of her love all the time. Because of this, she chose her father's way, and thus became like him. But that is not who she is on the inside. Deep, deep down in her heart, Azula is just a sad little girl who's crying and lashing out at the world because she doesn't believe that her Mommy loved her. In short, Ladies and Gentlemen, all Azula needs is a HUG.
    I seriously doubt that Azula is anything more than an evil Ozai puppet. There's no real evidence in the show showing that she is feeling pain inside.
    i dont think azula is ozai's puppet.. i think she knows she will be given thr throne, so she's determined to do what she feels is right. i think she has a personal vendetta against the avatar, because her only failure in life in not being able to capture him. The avatar is the only thing that is keeping her from becoming... perfect (at least in her own mind)
    But that makes her said like an even more cliched villain. Revenge and wanting to kill you father. It just doesn't get anymore been there done that thn that.


    Azula may come off as your standard cliche evil, but there is far more depth to her. She didn't hesitate to repeal her hatred of Zuko, because she needed a powerful ally. She knew that in order to get what she wanted, she needed her brother. She only hates when it benefits her. The sign of a true sociopath. A major difference between Psychopaths and Sociopaths is the former has some bizzare fetish or quirk that usually means they cannot function in society. Sociopaths have no human empathy, and usually act on impulses to achieve their goals. In Azula's case, she has the patience to go with the ruthlessness.
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    Eyes_Only61646

    [214]Dec 4, 2006
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    As of the season finale, I say screw all this.

    She's an evil, cold-hearted, manipulative, conniving, demon b*tch.

    End of story. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

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    2wingo

    [215]Dec 4, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:

    As of the season finale, I say screw all this.

    She's an evil, cold-hearted, manipulative, conniving, demon b*tch.

    End of story. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

    Yeah, I have to admit that I was wrong. There is no hope for her now. And there's no hope for Zuko either. He has chosen his destiny, he has cast the die, he has crossed the Rubicon, and many other analogies for he's crossed the line and there's no turning back. Ever.

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    Eyes_Only61646

    [216]Dec 4, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:

    As of the season finale, I say screw all this.

    She's an evil, cold-hearted, manipulative, conniving, demon b*tch.

    End of story. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

    Yeah, I have to admit that I was wrong. There is no hope for her now. And there's no hope for Zuko either. He has chosen his destiny, he has cast the die, he has crossed the Rubicon, and many other analogies for he's crossed the line and there's no turning back. Ever.
    **Bursts into tears along with millions of other fangirs** DON'T DISS ZUKO!!!!!!! He's got a plan...Simple as that....
    We should make a board about"The reall truth about Zuko"...We have an Azula one...Ooh, let's do one for ALL the characters...Except Jin and Song...**Roasts Jin and Song over a volcanoe and feeds them to Azula's lizard thingy**
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    2wingo

    [217]Dec 4, 2006
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    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:
    2wingo wrote:
    Eyes_Only61646 wrote:

    As of the season finale, I say screw all this.

    She's an evil, cold-hearted, manipulative, conniving, demon b*tch.

    End of story. Do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.

    Yeah, I have to admit that I was wrong. There is no hope for her now. And there's no hope for Zuko either. He has chosen his destiny, he has cast the die, he has crossed the Rubicon, and many other analogies for he's crossed the line and there's no turning back. Ever.
    **Bursts into tears along with millions of other fangirls** DON'T DISS ZUKO!!!!!!! He's got a plan...Simple as that.... We should make a board about"The real truth about Zuko"...We have an Azula one...Ooh, let's do one for ALL the characters...Except Jin and Song...**Roasts Jin and Song over a volcano and feeds them to Azula's lizard thingy**

    You can deny it all you want, but it'll do you no good. All the euphemisms I could use for Zuko becoming just as evil as Azula would be redundant. Because he's evil now. Really, he is his father's son. If you can't tell by now, I'm baiting you.

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    2wingo

    [218]Dec 9, 2006
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    And guess what, Eyes_Only61646???No amount of tears from you??or??any other fangirl can change the fact that??Zuko??has chosen the dark side and??he's gonna go down??just as hard as Azula, Ozai, and??all the other evil characters.??He made his choice, and??now,??he has to abide by it.??
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    Spike815

    [219]Dec 9, 2006
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    2wingo wrote:
    And guess what, Eyes_Only61646???No amount of tears from you??or??any other fangirl can change the fact that??Zuko??has chosen the dark side and??he's gonna go down??just as hard as Azula, Ozai, and??all the other evil characters.??He made his choice, and??now,??he has to abide by it.??

    The only thing that I can see redeeming Zuko is him sacrificing himself to save Aang, killing Azula, and killing Ozia. Nothing short of this will redeem him and truly make him a halfway decent person. And I can only hope the fangirls are watching when it happens...

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    2wingo

    [220]Dec 9, 2006
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    Spike815 wrote:

    2wingo wrote:
    And guess what, Eyes_Only61646???No amount of tears from you??or??any other fangirl can change the fact that??Zuko??has chosen the dark side and??he's gonna go down??just as hard as Azula, Ozai, and??all the other evil characters.??He made his choice, and??now,??he has to abide by it.??

    The only thing that I can see redeeming Zuko is him sacrificing himself to save Aang, killing Azula, and killing Ozai. Nothing short of this will redeem him and truly make him a halfway decent person. And I can only hope the fangirls are watching when it happens...

    Yeah, and even that's a stretch.

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