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How was this episode?

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    suss2it

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    snowprincess456 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    No one, not even the creators, specified that Aang had died. Prove that he had, otherwise give it up.
    Direct quote from The Awakening

    Aang: I went down. I didn't just get hurt, did I? It was worse than that. I was gone! But you brought me back.
    Katara: I just used the Spirit Water from the North Pole; I don't know what I did exactly.

    gone can mean many things...it doesn't have to be death...
    So what do you think he was talking about then?
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    Bullwinkle520

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    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
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    suss2it

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    I still don't think he was dead. Even in last night's episode, he mentioned that his chakra was still blocked, therefore he still couldn't enter the avatar state. That doesn't sound like the avatar cycle had been destroyed.
    I never said the cycle was destroyed. If he died and came back, would the cycle not too?
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    DarkJediJCer

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.


    Oh yes it does. It only took a pillar of rock to kill Jet.
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    suss2it

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?
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    Bullwinkle520

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    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    Iroh. -stares- But not too many gaping holes in this particular series. You're gonna have to look into anime.
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    Spike815

    [767]Jul 18, 2008
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    Look, he had to have died there for a while. The Avatar spirit was only damaged because he DIED. If he was only in a coma or whatever you claim, the Avatar spirit would be fine and the Spirit world trip/fused 7th chakra wouldn't exist.
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    Bullwinkle520

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    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    It's ridiculous to compare a character's injuries to those of another character. A person will die when the creators want them to.
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    snowprincess456

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    suss2it wrote:
    snowprincess456 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    No one, not even the creators, specified that Aang had died. Prove that he had, otherwise give it up.
    Direct quote from The Awakening

    Aang: I went down. I didn't just get hurt, did I? It was worse than that. I was gone! But you brought me back.
    Katara: I just used the Spirit Water from the North Pole; I don't know what I did exactly.

    gone can mean many things...it doesn't have to be death...
    So what do you think he was talking about then?

    Well..he could have ALMOST died..but Katara acted fast enough with her special water to keep him alive...
    Like at an ICU at a hospital....patients get very close to passing away..but doctors are able to prevent it for sometime...but in this case...Katara has her spirit water so she saved Aang from dying...
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    Bullwinkle520

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    Spike815 wrote:
    Look, he had to have died there for a while. The Avatar spirit was only damaged because he DIED. If he was only in a coma or whatever you claim, the Avatar spirit would be fine and the Spirit world trip/fused 7th chakra wouldn't exist.

    Wrong. He had a problem ever since he refused to let go of Katara.
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    DarkJediJCer

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    It's ridiculous to compare a character's injuries to those of another character. A person will die when the creators want them to.


    Which they did want Aang to at the moment, just to make everyone go "WTF AANG JUST DIED AUUGH NOW WHAT?!?!? =O"
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    suss2it

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    It's ridiculous to compare a character's injuries to those of another character. A person will die when the creators want them to.
    And that's what they did with Aang.

    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    Iroh. -stares- But not too many gaping holes in this particular series. You're gonna have to look into anime.
    Iroh was burnt not hit by lightning.
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    snowprincess456

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    Maybe we should drop the subject...there is no way to prove either side...
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    Bullwinkle520

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    It's pointless to continue arguing. I think we've clarified that the avatar state most likely wasn't destoyed when Aang died/almost-died/whatever.
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    Spike815

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    Spike815 wrote:
    Look, he had to have died there for a while. The Avatar spirit was only damaged because he DIED. If he was only in a coma or whatever you claim, the Avatar spirit would be fine and the Spirit world trip/fused 7th chakra wouldn't exist.

    Wrong. He had a problem ever since he refused to let go of Katara.


    The Avatar State was never damaged by that, he was just unable to accesss it. Roku clearly said dying in the Avatar State would screw it up, hence why Aang had to go on a Spirit world trip to patch it up.
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    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    It's ridiculous to compare a character's injuries to those of another character. A person will die when the creators want them to.
    And that's what they did with Aang.

    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    suss2it wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    He. Did. Not. Die.


    Then what was he? Certainly not unconscious.


    Why not unconscious?


    Because he was hit by lightning and got a gaping wound in his back. No-one could have possibly survived that. Even the Avatar is only human.


    You can survive a snapped neck if you must. A gaping hole doesn't mean much in the avatar world.
    When has another character received a gaping hole and survived?


    Iroh. -stares- But not too many gaping holes in this particular series. You're gonna have to look into anime.
    Iroh was burnt not hit by lightning.


    Actually, I believe Azula struck him with lightening, not that this matters/has a point.
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    suss2it

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    Bullwinkle520 wrote:
    It's pointless to continue arguing. I think we've clarified that the avatar state most likely wasn't destroyed when Aang died/almost-died/whatever.
    Just simply locked.
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    snowprincess456

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    so..uh..EIP...funny episode....
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    Bullwinkle520

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    So, shall we get back to shipping wars? Who favors what?
    Me:
    Zutara
    Taang
    Maiko
    Any of these (especially Taang) will make me vurry happy.
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