Ok, this one has been buggin me for awhile, how would win,
Azula, Mai and Ty Lee verse
Aang, Sokka, Katara, and Toph.
Normally I would say Team Avatar, but Azula's gang proved they can keep up with them in a fight.
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Ok, this one has been buggin me for awhile, how would win,
Azula, Mai and Ty Lee verse
Aang, Sokka, Katara, and Toph.
Normally I would say Team Avatar, but Azula's gang proved they can keep up with them in a fight.
What would happen:
Sokka, who is a swordmaster, would fight against Ty Lee, but Ty Lee being agile would take him down. Toph could make Maii try and lose her footing, but Maii would be too slick for her. Ty Lee would take away Zuko's bending. Aang, Katara, and Azula, squaring off, Azula would lose. Ty Lee would be no match for Aang, therefore, while Katara could slice Maii's weapons using Waterbending. So, basically, I think Team Avatar would win.
| libraman_92 wrote: |
| What would happen: Sokka, who is a swordmaster, would fight against Ty Lee, but Ty Lee being agile would take him down. Toph could make Maii try and lose her footing, but Maii would be too slick for her. Ty Lee would take away Zuko's bending. Aang, Katara, and Azula, squaring off, Azula would lose. Ty Lee would be no match for Aang, therefore, while Katara could slice Maii's weapons using Waterbending. So, basically, I think Team Avatar would win. |
good job.
say, i never seen aang fight with ty lee.
| ger5632 wrote: |
| Well, honestly, because of Mai and her "super pointy finger" skills, i think Azula's team would win. But if its only Azula, Team Avatar wins hands down. My opinion |
well you forgot the AVATAR!
master of all 4 elements?
and mai cant even bend, she just throws pointy stuff, even if aang or anyone else gets hit, they can be healed by katara.
| IrohtheTea wrote: | ||
well you forgot the AVATAR! and mai cant even bend, she just throws pointy stuff, even if aang or anyone else gets hit, they can be healed by katara.
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| IrohtheTea wrote: | ||
good job. say, i never seen aang fight with ty lee. |
I wouldn't say Azula pwned Aang everytime they encountered each other. The 1st time Aang was simply trying to run away with Bumi, so no one won that fight. The 2nd Azula did own, but Aang hadn't slept in 2 days. Most people wouldn't be able to put up much of a fight after that much sleep deprivation.
The 3rd time was close, but Aang won since he sent her flying 10 football fields. The 4th time she sent him flying. He was down but not out. When he got back on his feet, he was charging her and Zuko with a look on his face that said "it's on now." Unfortunately, the Dai Li made an entrance forcing Aang to use his trump card. Then Azula does a sneak attack and wins that fight.
In short, Azula was more wins under her belt, but they weren't easy.
| laurenmoo78 wrote: |
| Azula has a history of taking cheap shots and fighting dirty. In a dishonorable fight, yes, she would win (at least b4 Aang mastered the Avatar State). In a fair fight, where she isn't attacking after surrendering or shooting lightning at someone else, she would get pwned. |
Watch Season Two again. There was nothing dishonorable about the way Azula beat Aang and/or Zuko, in The Avatar State, The Chase, The Drill, Suki in Appa's Lost Days, and The Crossroads of destiny. She easily overpowered her opponents in all of these, usually with gigantic fireballs that her opponents couldn'thave missed, but were unable to block. Fights like the one in DoBS showed that she's also a very smart fighter, just in case we hadn't already figured that out. There were only two times in all of season two when Azula was at a disadvantage for fighting; when she was surrounded at the end of The Chase (which was when her "dishonorable moves" came into play), and when Katara got the drop on her in CoD, shortly after which Azula got her revenge by snashing Katara into a crystal stalagmite. It should be remembered that none of the moves she pulled were "dishonorable" in that she was cheating - there were rules for her to break. Aang has actually used far more "dishonorable" moves to defeat his opponents than Azula has over the course of the series.
| Axrendale wrote: | ||
Watch Season Two again. There was nothing dishonorable about the way Azula beat Aang and/or Zuko, in The Avatar State, The Chase, The Drill, Suki in Appa's Lost Days, and The Crossroads of destiny. She easily overpowered her opponents in all of these, usually with gigantic fireballs that her opponents couldn'thave missed, but were unable to block. Fights like the one in DoBS showed that she's also a very smart fighter, just in case we hadn't already figured that out. There were only two times in all of season two when Azula was at a disadvantage for fighting; when she was surrounded at the end of The Chase (which was when her "dishonorable moves" came into play), and when Katara got the drop on her in CoD, shortly after which Azula got her revenge by snashing Katara into a crystal stalagmite. It should be remembered that none of the moves she pulled were "dishonorable" in that she was cheating - there were rules for her to break. Aang has actually used far more "dishonorable" moves to defeat his opponents than Azula has over the course of the series. |
| laurenmoo78 wrote: | ||||
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The Avatar State:
Azula easily defeated Zuko in this one - by the end of it he was slumped on the deck with Azula about to hurl a gigantic lightning bolt at him. If Iroh hadn't snuck up on Azula while she was looking the other way and kicked her off the boat (a dishonorable move, incidently), Zuko would have been toast - literally.
The Chase:
She easily defeated Aang and Zuko without needing to resort to tricks of any kind. In the end though she was thwarted when the rest of the gaang showed up and she was cornered. True, her fireblast at Iroh after she had "surrendered" was a bit devious, but I wouldn't label it as dishonorable, more as smart. I say again that there are no rules in the fights of Avatar, the only time when tricks like that are "dishonorable" is when you use them in an Agni Kai.
The Drill:
Aang was easily defeated with a massive fireball to the face in a one on one fight, about as honorable as you can get.
Appa's Lost Days:
Once again, no tricks. Suki and the other Kyoshi Warriors were simply brutally overpowered.
The Crossroads of Destiny:
When I mentioned this fight in my above post, I was not referring to Azula's lightning bolt at the end, I was refering to the brief one on one fight that Azula had with Aang while Zuko was fighting Katara. The fight was brief because Aang was taken out and across the cavern by Azula's first shot, again to the face.
Whether Azula is honorable or simply smart is irrelevant, the point (as per the subject of this thread), is that when Azula is fighting what you deem "honorable" fights, she has a history of winning easily, usually by brutally overpowering her enemies. so to get back to the original subject, it seems fairly likely that if Aang were at his season two level of skill when this hypothetical fight takes place, chances are that he's going to lose badly to Azula.
| laurenmoo78 wrote: |
| Oh, well, yeah, s2 level, sure, Azula has the upper hand, and in the tradition of great martial arts movies, she's such a baddie that it takes several good guys to bring her down. And I wasn't thinking of Zuko/Azula battles (yeah, before she lost her mind she could kick Zuko's butt easily). But you have to admit, when backed into a corner she will lash out in dishonorable ways. I still contend, though, that we didn't really see the end of the "Appa's Lost Days" fight and don't know how that really went down. If I were to compare Azula to either a samurai or a ninja, Azula would definitely be a ninja. Ninjas, traditionally, are (as you say) smart and cunning, but in Japanese lore they lacked honor because of their sneaky ways. Zuko/Azula=Samurai/Ninja |
No one is denying that Azula is about as evil as evil can get (whether she will remain that way after the finale is debatable), and she is definitely not above being sneaky, but my main point is that she is perfectly capable of holding her own when the fight is honorable, as opposed to your original post. We'll have to agree to diasgree about Appa's Lost Days, I maintain that we didn't need to see that fight's ending; it was obvious that Suki had nothing on Azula; she and her friends were getting their butts kicked.
Nice catch about the ninjas - that probably comes into the story where in "Lake Laogai", Zuko decides to stop being the blue spirit (a ninja if there ever was one), and makes major progress on his journey to regain his honor. You should put that in the Historical Comparisons thread.
Either way, I think that we've established pretty well that Azula is a force to be reckoned with, which is why I maintain that a fight in the daylight is going to end badlly for the gaang.
