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Sozin's Comet (Series Finale) Official Discussion Thread - (*Major Spoilers*)

Rate the finale! How was it?

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    LondonParisNYC

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    Ucha_Nekome wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Every time I get a good Idia for fan fictions someone else aready comes up with it. *sigh* It's a vicous ciycle...

    god, fanfics. I remember that stage of my life. It's hard to find a good fanfic because they all suck, clich?? to the max, an horrible plots with these convientent OC's that are just so freaking perfectly imperfect and so deep for no apparent reason. Leave writing to the writer's =/

    I'm aiming to become a writer.... =>^

    same, but lemme tell you that fanfics arn't the way. I know from expiernence. Just come up with original story lines or you'll never develope the abaility to stretch a story the lengh of a novel. AND TRUST ME I KNOW.

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    Ucha_Nekome

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    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Ucha_Nekome wrote:
    Hay they cut off my kitty! =>^

    Hay they did it again! =>.

    Why does this keep happening! =@.@=

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    Kram021

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    BradyBannister5 wrote:

    After watching the finale, I immediately looked up book spoiler to compare them to the finale. And guess what: Exactly the same.

    Now that I have seen this, I now understand the severity of putting out that book months before the finale even aired. It just ruins the fun and suprise for everyone.

    Actually you are mostly right...the only difference is that in the book, Aang entered the avatar state by thinking of how he had given everything for Katara and how he first meet her. Then he sees all of the other avatars and enters the avatar state. It's pretty insignificant/confusing...and i agree that they shouldn't have released the book before. I felt horrible because I read the book before the movie.

    P.S. I'm sure that Aang didn't return to the avatar state by hitting a rock in the book.

    The evidence! : http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm179/xxoojulesooxx/

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    Ucha_Nekome

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    I never got to read the book but I'd like to point me to the book store!
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    Ucha_Nekome

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Every time I get a good Idia for fan fictions someone else aready comes up with it. *sigh* It's a vicous ciycle...

    god, fanfics. I remember that stage of my life. It's hard to find a good fanfic because they all suck, clich?? to the max, an horrible plots with these convientent OC's that are just so freaking perfectly imperfect and so deep for no apparent reason. Leave writing to the writer's =/

    I'm aiming to become a writer.... =>^

    same, but lemme tell you that fanfics arn't the way. I know from expiernence. Just come up with original story lines or you'll never develope the abaility to stretch a story the lengh of a novel. AND TRUST ME I KNOW.

    Oh I have no trouble comming up with origanal concepts. Fan Fics are just hobbies of mine I don't take them too seriously like some people do, and I always add my own style of writting into the mix so...But you are right Fan Fics aren't a good way to start writting they will make you copy other peoples work for so long you won't have a single origanal idia in your head.

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    Kram021

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    Athias09 wrote:
    The series finale was awesome and disappointing at the same time. The battle was epic, but what I don't understand is that if they can kill off Princess Yue, Jet, Kya, not to mention the genocide of the air nomads, why didn't they kill off someone this time? I mean, this is supposed to be the battle of all battles, and no one dies. And the ending was so generic--he meets a giant lion turtle who teaches him how to bend energy instead of the elements, how CONVENIENT! Not to say that Aang becomes a fully realized Avatar(I assume) and Zuko becomes the new Fire Lord. I mean it was pretty much expected but giv e us something more substantive. Oh and what happened to Ursa and Azula? Did they just completely disappear? And what about this whole Aang and Katara ending? In the Ember Island Players, she confused about her feelings and then when the War is over she finally realizes that she loves Aang? Give me a break. Are you telling me that her feelings were completely based on the outcome of the war? Sokka and Suki managed as well as Zuko and Mei, for whatever time it was worth. Now if I was a writer for Sozin's Comet I would've ended it like this: 1. I would've killed off Iroh, Bumi, Jeong Jeong, Hakoda, Pakku and the other guy(sword master), because they represented the old generation. The new Generation would take over like Sokka becoming the Chief of the southern water tribe, and Zuko continuing not only his position as the new Fire Lord but continuing the order of the white lotus. 2. I would've introduced [Fire Lady] Ursa as a hooded wanderer in the beginning. At the end of the Battle between Zuko, Katara, and Azula, just when Zuko is about to give the final blow (my version) deeming Azula too dangerous, Ursa makes an appearance by saving Azula (preferably through fire bending), both resolving Zuko's search for his mother and Azula's sense of abandonment by her. 3. When Aang was removing the Fire Lord's bending, I would've given insight into Ozai's psyche. It's been hinted that Ozai's relationship with his father, Azulon, is similar to his relationship with Zuko. I would've done something similar to how Smallville had Clark go into Lex's mind. Then after having Aang relieve him of his rage, anger, and resentment, Ozai would've lost his fire bending in a similar way that Zuko did during the the Fire Bending Masters. 4. One of my grievances is Ozai's fire bending. I would've had Ozai be able to control purple fire(hottest in the spectrum). I mean if Azula can use blue fire bending, which is technically stronger than orange-yellow fire bending, then her father should be able to step it up a notch. 5. Even without all the changes I previously mentioned, one thing I would've changed for sure was the last seven minutes! Instead of that generic ending, I would've done a 10-12 year time-skip! Aang, being 25 years old or 125 years old depending on how you see it, would've been in an air temple, with the restored Air Nomad nation, teaching what I would call blanks (those with no affiliation to any nation) air bending. Zuko, being 29, would be leading the Fire Nation with Fire Lady Mai(2, Azula(27) being the ambassador of the Fire Nation, and Ursa and Ozai living on Ember Island(where they were once truly happy.) Toph(25) would have become the new Earth Queen, since she's one of the most powerful Earth Benders. Sokka(2 as the Chief of the Southern Water Tribe as well as Suki(2 with her visible betrothal necklace are teaching young fighters. Katara(27) teaching young girls and young boys how to water bend. Aang leaves the air temple on Appa, with Momo joining them. Katara rides a canoe (similar to the first episode), while thinking of her past adventures with Aang. She is then greeted by Momo. She deducts that Aang must be close by. She finds Aang with a recreated version of the Iceberg from which she freed him from. They talk, they admit their love for each other, they kiss, then scene changes. After my final 150 year time-skip, a 16 year old water bender, a girl named Kota, was just told she was the avatar. She is told to go in to a room where she'll "meet someone who'll guide her." She sees the statues of Yangchen, Kuruk, Kyoshi, Roku, and that of a monk. The eyes of the statue(monk) glows, as well as hers, taking her to a spiritual plane. An old Air Nomad appears before her. The Air Nomad speaks the final words of the series, saying "Hello there Kota, I'm Avatar Aang!" Now that would've been an awesome and dramatic ending.

    I totally agree with the epilogue...not word for word but something like tha would have been okay.

    As for Katara in the EIP : 1MMfan states, "And btw, I would say that though I'm a Kataanger, I agree with Katara. Though she possibly likes Aang back, she knows he needs to defeat Ozai first. He was being too desperate. When he forced the kiss I'm suprised he didn't grab her and yell "BE WITH ME PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I think the better episode to have Kataang is the end of Sozin's Comet, if they save the world." As DrAvatar states, "She has clearly been confused since the Day of Black Sun. Confusion is a common emotion early on in a relationship and I'm glad the creators put it in. Just having Katara say "I love you too" would be WAY to easy."

    P.S. this is from the EIP forum...and I have no idea how to quote from another forum. Plz don't get angry....just quoting ppl

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    Eman5805

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    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Oh I have no trouble comming up with origanal concepts. Fan Fics are just hobbies of mine I don't take them too seriously like some people do, and I always add my own style of writting into the mix so...But you are right Fan Fics aren't a good way to start writting they will make you copy other peoples work for so long you won't have a single origanal idia in your head.

    That's why I'm not even going to read anyone elses fanfic. That way, I can't bite ideas unintentionally, and be completely honest in saying it's coincidence that something is similar. Though I can already see I might run into that issue cuz I know the title of another fanfic is CSI: Omashu. I never read it, but if it's like the title suggests, one chapter of mine will have some similarities.

    Back on topic, anyone else notice that the Fire Nation general that Zuko challenged the last time he was at a war council was still there?

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    Kram021

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    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Here's something everyone should understand. Aniken and Padme were like 5 years appart but they still got married and no one made a big deal out of it. So why make a big deal out of the 3 year differance that Katara and Aang have?

    Uhh...pretty sure its only 2 years apart. Aang was 12 when the show started and Katara was 14. At sozin's comet Aang said 1 year ago this started. Meaning Aang is now 13 and Katara is 15. (correct me if I'm wrong with that info...)

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    Kram021 wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Here's something everyone should understand. Aniken and Padme were like 5 years appart but they still got married and no one made a big deal out of it. So why make a big deal out of the 3 year differance that Katara and Aang have?

    Uhh...pretty sure its only 2 years apart. Aang was 12 when the show started and Katara was 14. At sozin's comet Aang said 1 year ago this started. Meaning Aang is now 13 and Katara is 15. (correct me if I'm wrong with that info...)

    it's just weird. Trust me, I know from real life experience. My best friend is 16, and she's dating someone who is 14 (actually he turns 15 next week) but regardless, she's like real sexual and he's like real sweet and it freaks me out lol.

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    Kram021 wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Here's something everyone should understand. Aniken and Padme were like 5 years appart but they still got married and no one made a big deal out of it. So why make a big deal out of the 3 year differance that Katara and Aang have?

    Uhh...pretty sure its only 2 years apart. Aang was 12 when the show started and Katara was 14. At sozin's comet Aang said 1 year ago this started. Meaning Aang is now 13 and Katara is 15. (correct me if I'm wrong with that info...)

    it's just weird. Trust me, I know from real life experience. My best friend is 16, and she's dating someone who is 14 (actually he turns 15 next week) but regardless, she's like real sexual and he's like real sweet and it freaks me out lol.

    O.k. I read on wikipidia that most water benders have birthdays in the winter, and for airbenders it's fall. So since Aang came out of the Iceburg in midwinter. You can diduce that Aang is almost 13 but not quite and Katara is 15 it said so on wikipidia. Look it up.

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    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    Kram021 wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Here's something everyone should understand. Aniken and Padme were like 5 years appart but they still got married and no one made a big deal out of it. So why make a big deal out of the 3 year differance that Katara and Aang have?

    Uhh...pretty sure its only 2 years apart. Aang was 12 when the show started and Katara was 14. At sozin's comet Aang said 1 year ago this started. Meaning Aang is now 13 and Katara is 15. (correct me if I'm wrong with that info...)

    it's just weird. Trust me, I know from real life experience. My best friend is 16, and she's dating someone who is 14 (actually he turns 15 next week) but regardless, she's like real sexual and he's like real sweet and it freaks me out lol.

    Yeah i understand that...but then again everyone is different and we could go on arguing about this for a year thinking of the different aspects (and I really don't want to explain it in essay form...especially since i just finished biology) But would you rather have Aang and Katara hug and the endings pop up in your face without anyone having a relationship? I mean think about it...you are talking about 2 people who have different experiences, memories, background, etc. and may have been taught through these things that being sweet is how he is accepted into society/his class...Also Aang and Katara have been together for a year and have bonded very closely.

    P.S. im not trying to be mean or start an argument... = P just stating my opinion

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    Ucha_Nekome wrote:
    LondonParisNYC wrote:
    Kram021 wrote:
    Ucha_Nekome wrote:

    Here's something everyone should understand. Aniken and Padme were like 5 years appart but they still got married and no one made a big deal out of it. So why make a big deal out of the 3 year differance that Katara and Aang have?

    Uhh...pretty sure its only 2 years apart. Aang was 12 when the show started and Katara was 14. At sozin's comet Aang said 1 year ago this started. Meaning Aang is now 13 and Katara is 15. (correct me if I'm wrong with that info...)

    it's just weird. Trust me, I know from real life experience. My best friend is 16, and she's dating someone who is 14 (actually he turns 15 next week) but regardless, she's like real sexual and he's like real sweet and it freaks me out lol.

    O.k. I read on wikipidia that most water benders have birthdays in the winter, and for airbenders it's fall. So since Aang came out of the Iceburg in midwinter. You can diduce that Aang is almost 13 but not quite and Katara is 15 it said so on wikipidia. Look it up.

    Idk...kind of confusing...either way its assuming so no real answer because you said Most have those kinds of birthdays. Maybe some one going to SDCC can ask

    P.S. does anyone know where to find the Q&A during the NYCC..been searching for 3 days and the most i can get is a horrible audio quality youtube video. The NYCC with the season finale trailer or something like that...

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    will there be any new avatar on our tv's any time soon, Beside the movies

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    SubZero8855 wrote:

    will there be any new avatar on our tv's any time soon, Beside the movies

    wont know anything for sure until SDCC this Saturday

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    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SubZero8855 wrote:

    will there be any new avatar on our tv's any time soon, Beside the movies

    wont know anything for sure until SDCC this Saturday

    whats SDCC

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    SubZero8855 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SubZero8855 wrote:

    will there be any new avatar on our tv's any time soon, Beside the movies

    wont know anything for sure until SDCC this Saturday

    whats SDCC



    San Diego Comic Convention. See the front page thread...
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    Fingerz91 wrote:
    SubZero8855 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SubZero8855 wrote:

    will there be any new avatar on our tv's any time soon, Beside the movies

    wont know anything for sure until SDCC this Saturday

    whats SDCC

    San Diego Comic Convention. See the front page thread...

    so after San Diego Comic Convention will we know 100% if theres going to be anything new to do with avatar beside the movies

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    SubZero8855 wrote:
    Fingerz91 wrote:
    SubZero8855 wrote:
    hkulka2974 wrote:
    SubZero8855 wrote:

    will there be any new avatar on our tv's any time soon, Beside the movies

    wont know anything for sure until SDCC this Saturday

    whats SDCC

    San Diego Comic Convention. See the front page thread...

    so after San Diego Comic Convention will we know 100% if theres going to be anything new to do with avatar beside the movies



    One can only hope my friend, one can only hope
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