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Sozin's Comet (Series Finale) Official Discussion Thread - (*Major Spoilers*)

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    isabelwhatx

    [2881]Jul 20, 2008
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    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!


    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.


    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt

    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
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    code_yumi

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    Ok, so even if the other avatars weren't "worthy" what about the other air nomads who had achieved a state of inner enlightenment or whatever the Air Avatar said? They were more spiritually enlightened than Aang and yet the turtle didn't appear to them. Also, the turtle didn't "reveal" himself to Aang, Aang had to 1. swim onto him, 2. spend (2?) days just wondering what he was doing, and 3. swim around to find its head.
    The turtle might've appeared to past Avatars. We only went back four generations. Aang was possessed. He didn't know where he was. The turtle brought him there.

    maybe he went to the turtle subconciously cuz he was so stressed about if he should kill the firelord or not....

    Then his body wouldn't have left the house.

    Yes it would. Subconciously and spiritually are two very different things.
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    And although this isn't in the actual story, I would have to imagine they did have the same conflict when the fire nation invaded them and started slaughtering. Should they defend themselves and kill the fire nationers? Wouldn't that basically be the same conflict?
    No, because Aang was the Avatar at that time. He was frozen during that period.
    I believe he was referring to the monks conflict.
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    DrAvatar

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!


    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.


    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt

    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    When you get really really old things start to grow on you.
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    code_yumi

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!

    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.
    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt
    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    What Aang was standing on was part of the turtle lion's shell.
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    isabelwhatx

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    MaddoKos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    pengufile wrote:
    I read somewhere that by Aang hitting his back against the rock released one of his Chakras or something, and that was how he was able to go into the Avatar state.


    His wound (where Azula has blasted him) was struck. If I remember correctly that wound was about even with his solar plexus. The yellow solar plexus chakra, Manipura, controls power and will. Rather appropriate, then, that its blockage would have blocked the Avatar State. Although I suppose if any of the chakras had been blocked, it would have inhibited AS.

    Sorry, just thought I'd throw that in.

    Lmao. And I thought I was obsessed.


    Well, Religious Studies (mainly Hinduism and Buddhism) is one of my majors, so whenever chakras, third eyes, gurus etc. are mentioned on these boards, I just start spewing information.

    That must SERIOUSLY come in handy with this show. Ahahahaa.
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    WowBowSon

    [2886]Jul 20, 2008
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    code_yumi wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!

    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.
    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt
    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    What Aang was standing on was part of the turtle lion's shell.


    ya, so does anyone have any idea who the fire nation man was in the picture?
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    code_yumi

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    WowBowSon wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!

    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.
    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt
    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    What Aang was standing on was part of the turtle lion's shell.
    ya, so does anyone have any idea who the fire nation man was in the picture?
    I don't think it was anyone we've met, and it might not've been a Fire Nation man.
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    suss2it

    [2888]Jul 20, 2008
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    Does anyone want me to post the Bryke interview in the book & the updated flier?
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    simsfreak098968

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    suss2it wrote:
    Does anyone want me to post the Bryke interview in the book & the updated flier?

    YES!!!!
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    xdarkdudex

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    code_yumi wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    Ok, so even if the other avatars weren't "worthy" what about the other air nomads who had achieved a state of inner enlightenment or whatever the Air Avatar said? They were more spiritually enlightened than Aang and yet the turtle didn't appear to them. Also, the turtle didn't "reveal" himself to Aang, Aang had to 1. swim onto him, 2. spend (2?) days just wondering what he was doing, and 3. swim around to find its head.
    The turtle might've appeared to past Avatars. We only went back four generations. Aang was possessed. He didn't know where he was. The turtle brought him there.

    maybe he went to the turtle subconciously cuz he was so stressed about if he should kill the firelord or not....

    Then his body wouldn't have left the house.

    Yes it would've. Subconciously means he was in a trance which he was. The turtle lion did somewhat appear to Aang, and it drew him to it through a force Aang wasn't aware of.

    I'm not really sure about this, but can you do something subconciously when you're not awake? Because I don't think Aang was really all there when he swam to the turtle.

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    picaboomman

    [2891]Jul 20, 2008
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    wow. the book was exactly the same
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    MaddoKos

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    MaddoKos wrote:
    pengufile wrote:
    I read somewhere that by Aang hitting his back against the rock released one of his Chakras or something, and that was how he was able to go into the Avatar state.


    His wound (where Azula has blasted him) was struck. If I remember correctly that wound was about even with his solar plexus. The yellow solar plexus chakra, Manipura, controls power and will. Rather appropriate, then, that its blockage would have blocked the Avatar State. Although I suppose if any of the chakras had been blocked, it would have inhibited AS.

    Sorry, just thought I'd throw that in.

    Lmao. And I thought I was obsessed.


    Well, Religious Studies (mainly Hinduism and Buddhism) is one of my majors, so whenever chakras, third eyes, gurus etc. are mentioned on these boards, I just start spewing information.

    That must SERIOUSLY come in handy with this show. Ahahahaa.


    Yeah, sometimes. But there is a lot of Tao and Shinto influence in the show and I don't have that much experience with them.
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    isabelwhatx

    [2893]Jul 20, 2008
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    code_yumi wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!

    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.
    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt
    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    What Aang was standing on was part of the turtle lion's shell.

    I know. That was really the only part where plant life hadn't started growing on it.
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    MaddoKos

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!

    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.
    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt
    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    What Aang was standing on was part of the turtle lion's shell.

    I know. That was really the only part where plant life hadn't started growing on it.


    You mean that place he was meditating with the strange pattern on it?
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    code_yumi

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    xdarkdudex wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    Ok, so even if the other avatars weren't "worthy" what about the other air nomads who had achieved a state of inner enlightenment or whatever the Air Avatar said? They were more spiritually enlightened than Aang and yet the turtle didn't appear to them. Also, the turtle didn't "reveal" himself to Aang, Aang had to 1. swim onto him, 2. spend (2?) days just wondering what he was doing, and 3. swim around to find its head.
    The turtle might've appeared to past Avatars. We only went back four generations. Aang was possessed. He didn't know where he was. The turtle brought him there.

    maybe he went to the turtle subconciously cuz he was so stressed about if he should kill the firelord or not....

    Then his body wouldn't have left the house.

    Yes it would've. Subconciously means he was in a trance which he was. The turtle lion did somewhat appear to Aang, and it drew him to it through a force Aang wasn't aware of.

    I'm not really sure about this, but can you do something subconciously when you're not awake? Because I don't think Aang was really all there when he swam to the turtle.
    Yes, your subconcious works without you being aware of it, like sleepwalking, or when you're in a trance like Aang was.
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    WowBowSon

    [2896]Jul 20, 2008
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    ok i found some really interesting pictures, but for some reason firefox wont let me past the link or attach the picture, but there are statues of turtle lions. so there not singaled out just for avatar. its pretty interesting. they look alot like the drawings
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    code_yumi

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    isabelwhatx wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    WowBowSon wrote:
    isabelwhatx wrote:
    DrAvatar wrote:

    I found the foreshadowing from The Library.

    Mike and Bryan sure are sneaky!

    Wow, that's amazing. We had the answer right under our noses! Ahahaha.
    ya but where do the trees come into play? i thought there was no rock/dirt
    No, there was. The weird platform Aang had stood on wasn't made of Earth. Everything else was.
    What Aang was standing on was part of the turtle lion's shell.
    I know. That was really the only part where plant life hadn't started growing on it.
    Oh, I wasn't really replying to you, I was just clarifying for others.
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    code_yumi

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    WowBowSon wrote:
    ok i found some really interesting pictures, but for some reason firefox wont let me past the link or attach the picture, but there are statues of turtle lions. so there not singaled out just for avatar. its pretty interesting. they look alot like the drawings
    You have to be at level three to post pictures.
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    isabelwhatx

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    xdarkdudex wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    avataraang113 wrote:

    isabelwhatx wrote:
    xdarkdudex wrote:
    Ok, so even if the other avatars weren't "worthy" what about the other air nomads who had achieved a state of inner enlightenment or whatever the Air Avatar said? They were more spiritually enlightened than Aang and yet the turtle didn't appear to them. Also, the turtle didn't "reveal" himself to Aang, Aang had to 1. swim onto him, 2. spend (2?) days just wondering what he was doing, and 3. swim around to find its head.
    The turtle might've appeared to past Avatars. We only went back four generations. Aang was possessed. He didn't know where he was. The turtle brought him there.

    maybe he went to the turtle subconciously cuz he was so stressed about if he should kill the firelord or not....

    Then his body wouldn't have left the house.

    Yes it would've. Subconciously means he was in a trance which he was. The turtle lion did somewhat appear to Aang, and it drew him to it through a force Aang wasn't aware of.

    I'm not really sure about this, but can you do something subconciously when you're not awake? Because I don't think Aang was really all there when he swam to the turtle.

    You can do something subconciously when you're not awake. Dream, sleep walk, or in this case go to giant lion-turtles =D
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    CrystalBeam

    [2900]Jul 20, 2008
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    Sorry to come in late...but WILL WE EVER KNOW ABOUT URSA?
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