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Official Episode Discussion: Tales of Ba Sing Se (9/29)

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    Colonel_Brian

    [261]Sep 30, 2006
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    lilykt7 wrote:
    Colonel_Brian wrote:

    lilykt7 wrote:
    maybe they were special monkeys.....like they could memorize complicated dance moves or something. Luten was pretty cute, he'd probably look even better animated

    I bet he'll stir all kinds of unholy things in you're thoughts cause it's your turn! Anyway I'm excited Iroh's past is getting closer to being revealed.

    Probably but he's dead....so thats not gonna happen. EW brian your a pervert for even thinking like that

    Wow it backfired Well I'll get you to slip Lily soon

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    sadist_activst

    [262]Sep 30, 2006
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    Ahhhhh!

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    lilykt7

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    sadist_activst wrote:

    Ahhhhh!



    OMG I SQUEALED LIKE A TEENAGE GIRL (which I am) DURING THAT SCENE! It was insane. Especially when he kissed her back I was like "he's going for it,no he's not, yes he is! Omg he ran away! YOU MORON!"


    and btw Brian I so do NOT have any unholy thoughts. Therefore I couldn't posably, how you say, "slip"
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    Raikiri1103

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    DeathandDoom wrote:
    One thing that's confirmed - actually several things, but we'll foucs on this one - Koh's face at the end definitly wasn't Lu Ten, as that picture looked nothing like that face.

    Other things confirmed - Aang does shave his head, Sokka shaves with his machette, Zuko has no clue about women, and Momo is a smart, sad little monkey.


    Hes a lemur.
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    sadist_activst

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    Raikiri1103 wrote:
    DeathandDoom wrote:
    One thing that's confirmed - actually several things, but we'll foucs on this one - Koh's face at the end definitly wasn't Lu Ten, as that picture looked nothing like that face.

    Other things confirmed - Aang does shave his head, Sokka shaves with his machette, Zuko has no clue about women, and Momo is a smart, sad little monkey.
    Hes a lemur.

    Aang isn't the only who misses Appa.

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    Colonel_Brian

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    lilykt7 wrote:
    sadist_activst wrote:

    Ahhhhh!

    OMG I SQUEALED LIKE A TEENAGE GIRL (which I am) DURING THAT SCENE! It was insane. Especially when he kissed her back I was like "he's going for it,no he's not, yes he is! Omg he ran away! YOU MORON!" and btw Brian I so do NOT have any unholy thoughts. Therefore I couldn't posably, how you say, "slip"

    Very Well but don't speak of this anymore?

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    Lame-O

    [267]Sep 30, 2006
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    I don't know if anyone else did this but I kinda wrote down what haiku's Sokka was making

    Sokka: I am so sorry
    Something struck me in the rear
    I just wand up here

    Sokka: They call me Sokka
    That is in the water tribe
    I am not an oaf

    Sokka: You think you're so smart
    With your fancy little words
    This is not so hard

    Sokka: I calls it easy
    Like I peddle my canoe
    I'll peddle yours too

    Sokka: Squish, squash, sling that slang
    Am always right back at ya
    Like my boomerang

    Sokka: That's right I'm Sokka
    It's pronounced with an okka
    Young ladies, I rock ya
    [starts counting his fingers]
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    metalcurtainrod

    [268]Sep 30, 2006
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    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    lilykt7 wrote:
    sadist_activst wrote:

    Ahhhhh!

    OMG I SQUEALED LIKE A TEENAGE GIRL (which I am) DURING THAT SCENE! It was insane. Especially when he kissed her back I was like "he's going for it,no he's not, yes he is! Omg he ran away! YOU MORON!" and btw Brian I so do NOT have any unholy thoughts. Therefore I couldn't posably, how you say, "slip"

    Very Well but don't speak of this anymore?



    Awwwww I love that picture (and I "squeeled like a teenage girl" too, lily )
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    lilykt7

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    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    lilykt7 wrote:
    sadist_activst wrote:

    Ahhhhh!

    OMG I SQUEALED LIKE A TEENAGE GIRL (which I am) DURING THAT SCENE! It was insane. Especially when he kissed her back I was like "he's going for it,no he's not, yes he is! Omg he ran away! YOU MORON!" and btw Brian I so do NOT have any unholy thoughts. Therefore I couldn't posably, how you say, "slip"

    Very Well but don't speak of this anymore?



    Awwwww I love that picture (and I "squeeled like a teenage girl" too, lily )


    lol thank you metal im glad I wasnt alone. And yes brian lets put this horrible argument behind us.
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    Hokai

    [270]Sep 30, 2006
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    uhh dont knw if any1 posted this yet, but i heard a request for Iroh's touching song...

    Leaves from the vine--Falling so slow,

    Like fragile, tiny shells--drifting in the fall,

    Brave, soldier boy--come marching home,

    Brave, soldier, boy--he comes marching home

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    DarkJediJCer

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    Ah, what a very unique (and strange) episode. I enjoyed Iroh's and Zuko's story the best. I didn't know who Mako was until I read some of the posts here...may he RIP.

    This episode was emotional, I must say. And in very different kinds of emotion too.
    Humor, cuteness, sorrow...Amazing.

    But am I the only one that thinks Sokka deserved something better than his hiaku story?
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    metalcurtainrod

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    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Ah, what a very unique (and strange) episode. I enjoyed Iroh's and Zuko's story the best. I didn't know who Mako was until I read some of the posts here...may he RIP.

    This episode was emotional, I must say. And in very different kinds of emotion too.
    Humor, cuteness, sorrow...Amazing.

    But am I the only one that thinks Sokka deserved something better than his hiaku story?


    I dunno, it showed one of Sokka's fascinating skills
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    DarkJediJCer

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    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Ah, what a very unique (and strange) episode. I enjoyed Iroh's and Zuko's story the best. I didn't know who Mako was until I read some of the posts here...may he RIP.

    This episode was emotional, I must say. And in very different kinds of emotion too.
    Humor, cuteness, sorrow...Amazing.

    But am I the only one that thinks Sokka deserved something better than his hiaku story?


    I dunno, it showed one of Sokka's fascinating skills


    Yeah. Uh-huh. Right up until he messed up a syllable and got thrown out. ??
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    Colonel_Brian

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    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Ah, what a very unique (and strange) episode. I enjoyed Iroh's and Zuko's story the best. I didn't know who Mako was until I read some of the posts here...may he RIP. This episode was emotional, I must say. And in very different kinds of emotion too. Humor, cuteness, sorrow...Amazing. But am I the only one that thinks Sokka deserved something better than his hiaku story?
    I dunno, it showed one of Sokka's fascinating skills
    Yeah. Uh-huh. Right up until he messed up a syllable and got thrown out. ??

    Wellcause that's Sokka not many of the endings where happy.

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    DarkJediJCer

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    Colonel_Brian wrote:

    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    metalcurtainrod wrote:
    DarkJediJCer wrote:
    Ah, what a very unique (and strange) episode. I enjoyed Iroh's and Zuko's story the best. I didn't know who Mako was until I read some of the posts here...may he RIP. This episode was emotional, I must say. And in very different kinds of emotion too. Humor, cuteness, sorrow...Amazing. But am I the only one that thinks Sokka deserved something better than his hiaku story?
    I dunno, it showed one of Sokka's fascinating skills
    Yeah. Uh-huh. Right up until he messed up a syllable and got thrown out.

    Wellcause that's Sokka not many of the endings where happy.



    Oh yes, I forgot: Bad things always happen to Sokka.
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    UGamer08

    [276]Sep 30, 2006
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    someone198 wrote:

    Great as a filler episode but a terrible place for it in the time line. It would make much more sense if this took place before their revelation at the end of the last episode. The "Previously on Avatar" made it sound like they're still waiting to speak to the Earth King (as if that's ever going to happen or if it would do any good if they did) and are just killing time. Major plot hole.

    About the sketches, I didn't watch Momo's or Sokka's (I'm not a pure comedy fan), but I thought Katara's and Toph's was stupid and highly out of character. Shouldn't radical feminist/activist/action girl Katara be more concerned with their mission than getting a make-over? And what happened to Toph hating proper society life? Not to mention the group of snobby girls is my least favorite overly used Western trope that has to go!

    Aang's sketch was weird, but the return of the drop-in cabbage merchant was cool, and my college is an agricultural/zoo science oriented school, so I naturally found creating a zoo in less than a minute very cool. Not cool enough to disregard the discontinuity with how the bison whistle works and Aang's lack of concern about Appa.

    Iroh's sketch was sad and revealing, all right. I guess this is why he was so eager to get to Ba Sing Se so quickly, for this day. I sure wasn't expecting that with all the light-hearted nonsense in the other stories.

    Zuko's sketch I found the most interesting (good thing, too, since it's the only one I recorded). My worst fear before this aired was that he would be out of character, which only intensified after seeing the first few sketches (Zuko is not a good character for strict comedy). I was pleased to find Zuko very in-character: still a terrible liar like in COTL, quiet and blunt like in "Zuko Alone." Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it seemed like he relaxed after he lit the lamps and they were surrounded by fire, when he was "in his element." I like how the kiss was executed, too. Every meaningful kiss has to start out awkward, of course. They can end awkwardly or sweetly, and this one soon turned romantic and sweet. Since we know he enjoyed it, I think he broke away because he felt guilty, about having to lie about his name, who he was, etc, so it didn't feel right to kiss her/let her kiss him.

    My overall conclusion about this episode: the truly well-written episodes leave me breathless at the end, feeling WOW all over, all I want to do is watch it over and over again and again. I just didn't get that feeling from this episode. Placing a filler episode directly after the major plot twist= awkward. Plus, I liked how they were gradually turning Aang's personality and story darker and more mature this season, but this ep took a serious U-Turn back to the days of "Return to Omashu" when only Zuko's side of the story interested me. It could have been much better.

    (For the sake of decency I've??divided this up )

    Let me just start out by saying that it freaks the crap out of me when I find some who shares similar thought process with me. The whole minds think alike just, anyway I think I almost completely agree with your impression, save a few points-

    First off, what is going on with Avatar? When did they feel the need to use all these ???elements??? (yeah, yeah no pun intended ). I mean one of the main reasons I got hooked onto this show is because it tried not what basically everyone else is doing, it tried to stay unique. Yes we???re all aware that they borrowed a bunch of stuff from Miyazaki and Asian culture, but they did it in a creative way, and it wasn???t nearly as obvious as some of the stuff they???ve been doing these last couple of eps. You know what I???m talking about: giving the guy with glasses (at least I think they were supposed to be) a nasally voice, having a trio of mean spirited girls (thank God they can???t use blondes on this show, they would whipped that one out in a second), random testosterone-induced big huge guys with deep voices, the stupid getting thrown out the door sequence (that part almost made me puke, and I can???t even remember if he said ??? and stay out??? or not. If he did???.). Since when did Avatar really need all this crap? M???kay now onto the episode themselves.

    Toph and Katara- It was nice but it really wasn???t all that. They really seem to be forcing those two to be girlfriends. I also didn???t care for that rebuttal (add that to the list) they gave to the girls. What does that truly prove? And latest blind joke, as usually it could???ve have been better if they had said it in a slightly different way. It was obvious that they were trying to get the characters back with that friendly punch at the end, but I kinda liked that.

    ??

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    Colonel_Brian

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    It was a damn filler and that glasses guy served no importance he just had a few lines and there he's gone but I see you're point but it's not really a matter where you have to puke
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    DarkJediJCer

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    The big dude who throws you out of a building has been used too many times, huh? Might of been better if some normal-looking guy asked Sokka to leave, Sokka protests, the guy pulls out a giant sword out of nowhere, and THEN Sokka leaves. Just saying.
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    UGamer08

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    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    It was a damn filler and that glasses guy served no importance he just had a few lines and there he's gone but I see you're point but it's not really a matter where you have to puke

    That wasn't the part that made me want to and I wish I could've used a better word. Least I didn't bring out fecal matter like another would. I was really just pointing out stuff I'm not saying its gonna be the thing to kill the show or something.??Not out load anyway Oh, and "filler" (gonna be hearing that one for awhile)??or not an episode's an episode and can be inferred like any other.

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    Colonel_Brian

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    UGamer08 wrote:

    Colonel_Brian wrote:
    It was a damn filler and that glasses guy served no importance he just had a few lines and there he's gone but I see you're point but it's not really a matter where you have to puke

    That wasn't the part that made me want to and I wish I could've used a better word. Least I didn't bring out fecal matter like another would. I was really just pointing out stuff I'm not saying its gonna be the thing to kill the show or something.??Not out load anyway Oh, and "filler" (gonna be hearing that one for awhile)??or not an episode's an episode and can be inferred like any other.

    Well epiosde 17 is where the season??builds up to ??it's climax, 16 is just a follow up on the whereabouts for Appa and 18-20 will be the climax.

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