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Sokka ship?

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    code_yumi

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:

    Chairunisa wrote:
    Is there possibility that all gang members know about how Aang's feeling toward katara especialy after TEIP

    um we know, can you not randomly change the subject

    might as well put this in so its not a wasted post

    Kuro-TheNinthSon

    I don't think Katara would kiss Aang like that

    What you did is far more changing the subject than Chair. In fact, Chair didn't change the subject at all, just started a new one, to which I reply, I don't think they found out then if they hadn't already realized it.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:

    Chairunisa wrote:
    Is there possibility that all gang members know about how Aang's feeling toward katara especialy after TEIP

    um we know, can you not randomly change the subject

    might as well put this in so its not a wasted post

    Kuro-TheNinthSon

    I don't think Katara would kiss Aang like that

    What you did is far more changing the subject than Chair. In fact, Chair didn't change the subject at all, just started a new one, to which I reply, I don't think they found out then if they hadn't already realized it.

    love that pic xD

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    doomed_soul89

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    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    It's the general idea that counts - based on what we saw of him from Season two, the most likely reaction from Zuko would be to thank Katara immensly for what she had just done for him. That done, they are both practical enough that they would focus their attentions on escaping to stop Azula. Based on what happend with Song and Jin, I would say that Zuko seems unlikely to start anything up with a girl just for the heck of it, and Katara demonstrate her own attraction towards Aang several times throughout that season.

    No Zuko would try and reject the help (like he always does) and Katara would keep pushing for it, and something would happen between them before they even healed his scar

    Oh yeah, he was definitely trying to reject her help.
    not her, her help, he would have said like "You should save the water for something that matters"
    He was going to let her use it right then, without a word about saving it for something else.

    I don't agree. It's Zuko's nature to reject help, like he did when his uncle was hurt and Katara offered to help, him saying saving it for someone else, would be more of an excuse then a sacrifice though.
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    code_yumi

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    It's the general idea that counts - based on what we saw of him from Season two, the most likely reaction from Zuko would be to thank Katara immensly for what she had just done for him. That done, they are both practical enough that they would focus their attentions on escaping to stop Azula. Based on what happend with Song and Jin, I would say that Zuko seems unlikely to start anything up with a girl just for the heck of it, and Katara demonstrate her own attraction towards Aang several times throughout that season.

    No Zuko would try and reject the help (like he always does) and Katara would keep pushing for it, and something would happen between them before they even healed his scar

    Oh yeah, he was definitely trying to reject her help.
    not her, her help, he would have said like "You should save the water for something that matters"
    He was going to let her use it right then, without a word about saving it for something else.
    I don't agree. It's Zuko's nature to reject help, like he did when his uncle was hurt and Katara offered to help, him saying saving it for someone else, would be more of an excuse then a sacrifice though.
    I agree that it's in Zuko's nature to reject help, but he was going to accept it right then, probably because he was trying to change.
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    doomed_soul89

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    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    It's the general idea that counts - based on what we saw of him from Season two, the most likely reaction from Zuko would be to thank Katara immensly for what she had just done for him. That done, they are both practical enough that they would focus their attentions on escaping to stop Azula. Based on what happend with Song and Jin, I would say that Zuko seems unlikely to start anything up with a girl just for the heck of it, and Katara demonstrate her own attraction towards Aang several times throughout that season.

    No Zuko would try and reject the help (like he always does) and Katara would keep pushing for it, and something would happen between them before they even healed his scar

    Oh yeah, he was definitely trying to reject her help.
    not her, her help, he would have said like "You should save the water for something that matters"
    He was going to let her use it right then, without a word about saving it for something else.
    I don't agree. It's Zuko's nature to reject help, like he did when his uncle was hurt and Katara offered to help, him saying saving it for someone else, would be more of an excuse then a sacrifice though.
    I agree that it's in Zuko's nature to reject help, but he was going to accept it right then, probably because he was trying to change.

    I think he would come around, but he would need more encouragement from Katara
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    LondonParisNYC

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    code_yumi wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    Axrendale wrote:

    It's the general idea that counts - based on what we saw of him from Season two, the most likely reaction from Zuko would be to thank Katara immensly for what she had just done for him. That done, they are both practical enough that they would focus their attentions on escaping to stop Azula. Based on what happend with Song and Jin, I would say that Zuko seems unlikely to start anything up with a girl just for the heck of it, and Katara demonstrate her own attraction towards Aang several times throughout that season.

    No Zuko would try and reject the help (like he always does) and Katara would keep pushing for it, and something would happen between them before they even healed his scar

    Oh yeah, he was definitely trying to reject her help.
    not her, her help, he would have said like "You should save the water for something that matters"
    He was going to let her use it right then, without a word about saving it for something else.
    I don't agree. It's Zuko's nature to reject help, like he did when his uncle was hurt and Katara offered to help, him saying saving it for someone else, would be more of an excuse then a sacrifice though.
    I agree that it's in Zuko's nature to reject help, but he was going to accept it right then, probably because he was trying to change.
    I think he would come around, but he would need more encouragement from Katara

    I agree with all ^

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    TheGreatBishop

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't.

    So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko.

    What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.
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    Chairunisa

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    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.
    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?
    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't. So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko. What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    The end-up pairing absolutly up to creators, there are no rooms for arguementation but we can discuss about the flow story, why we choose kataang or why choose zutara..base on the flow of stroy..

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    isabelwhatx

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    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in

    Zuko chose to go out with Mai for a reason. He didn't like anyone else at the time, including Katara.
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    caseybocook

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    The reason Katara didn't date Zuko, well, its called good taste.
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    LondonParisNYC

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    caseybocook wrote:
    The reason Katara didn't date Zuko, well, its called good taste.

    Elaborate

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    caseybocook wrote:
    The reason Katara didn't date Zuko, well, its called good taste.
    Zuko, do you want some ice for that burn?
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    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't.

    So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko.

    What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    ^ This. The point is, it didn't happen, so you can't base a ship on 'what if'. Zuko didn't choose Katara (and vice versa) simply because the creators didn't agree with the ship and for no other reason. It has nothing to do with censorship issues.

    caseybocook: Whoa, burn much to Zuko? xD
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    mangafreak5000

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    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.
    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?
    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't. So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko. What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    If Ozai had killed Zuko, then Avatar would have lost one of its hottest guys and been an EPIC FAILURE!

    But, thats not just because I'm a fangirl. Zuko is by far one of the most deep characters in the whole show. And one of the most interesting. And he also causes A LOT of the shipping arguments. Who knows, if it weren't for Zuko we might not even have this thread. Kataang would only have to argue with Jetara and Hatara supporters. And George vs. Tokka. But thats it.

    *the fangirl rant is over*

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    mangafreak5000

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    Jackson5050 wrote:
    caseybocook wrote:
    The reason Katara didn't date Zuko, well, its called good taste.
    Zuko, do you want some ice for that burn?

    Well, if doomed_soul's theory is right, then he will probably refuse your offer.

    .... Or he'll just try to kill caseybocook.

    .....And if he doesn't then the fangirls will. *shudder shudder*

    *flees so that she doesn't catch the rabidness of the fanbase*

    Edited on 08/13/2008 1:55pm
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    death_soul89

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    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't.

    So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko.

    What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    ^ This. The point is, it didn't happen, so you can't base a ship on 'what if'. Zuko didn't choose Katara (and vice versa) simply because the creators didn't agree with the ship and for no other reason. It has nothing to do with censorship issues.

    caseybocook: Whoa, burn much to Zuko? xD

    Um let's c a Kattang kiss is a hug and a kiss at most, a Zutara kiss would be a grope kiss at the least, so personally i think cencorship issues had somethign to do with it, and kids are its main target audiance so the main relationship has to be in a kiddy relationship instead of a passionate one (Sukka was for the teens) but that's just my opinion
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    death_soul89 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't.

    So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko.

    What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    ^ This. The point is, it didn't happen, so you can't base a ship on 'what if'. Zuko didn't choose Katara (and vice versa) simply because the creators didn't agree with the ship and for no other reason. It has nothing to do with censorship issues.

    caseybocook: Whoa, burn much to Zuko? xD

    Um let's c a Kattang kiss is a hug and a kiss at most, a Zutara kiss would be a grope kiss at the least, so personally i think cencorship issues had somethign to do with it, and kids are its main target audiance so the main relationship has to be in a kiddy relationship instead of a passionate one (Sukka was for the teens) but that's just my opinion


    your usrname is oddly similar to doomed_soul89. Perhaps, closer than I think?
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    libraman_92 wrote:
    death_soul89 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.
    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?
    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't. So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko. What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.
    ^ This. The point is, it didn't happen, so you can't base a ship on 'what if'. Zuko didn't choose Katara (and vice versa) simply because the creators didn't agree with the ship and for no other reason. It has nothing to do with censorship issues. caseybocook: Whoa, burn much to Zuko? xD
    Um let's c a Kattang kiss is a hug and a kiss at most, a Zutara kiss would be a grope kiss at the least, so personally i think cencorship issues had somethign to do with it, and kids are its main target audiance so the main relationship has to be in a kiddy relationship instead of a passionate one (Sukka was for the teens) but that's just my opinion
    your usrname is oddly similar to doomed_soul89. Perhaps, closer than I think?
    maybe it's just a kawinky-dink... OR maybe not o_O
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    EmoHaruno

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    libraman_92 wrote:
    death_soul89 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't.

    So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko.

    What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    ^ This. The point is, it didn't happen, so you can't base a ship on 'what if'. Zuko didn't choose Katara (and vice versa) simply because the creators didn't agree with the ship and for no other reason. It has nothing to do with censorship issues.

    caseybocook: Whoa, burn much to Zuko? xD

    Um let's c a Kattang kiss is a hug and a kiss at most, a Zutara kiss would be a grope kiss at the least, so personally i think cencorship issues had somethign to do with it, and kids are its main target audiance so the main relationship has to be in a kiddy relationship instead of a passionate one (Sukka was for the teens) but that's just my opinion


    your usrname is oddly similar to doomed_soul89. Perhaps, closer than I think?

    HE'S RETURNED! DUN, DUN, DUN!
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    isabelwhatx

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    death_soul89 wrote:
    DeeDuck33 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    doomed_soul89 wrote:
    TheGreatBishop wrote:
    I don't understand what the argument is about, it doesn't matter what could've happened, what matters is what did happen, and that my friends is Kataang.

    what did happen is Zuko started dating Mai and Katara never had the option
    Nor did she express interest. What is the point of arguing what ifs?

    The one chance they were alone, not fighting, and Zuko wasn't dating Mai was in the earth cave, and they had a whole 30 seconds were they were getting pretty close extremely fast before Aang crashed in
    OK sure, they got close, they could have been together, but hey they weren't. Toph and Sokka could have gotten together, but they didn't. Aang & Zuko could have gotten together but they didn't. Katara & Zuko could have gotten together, but guess what, they didn't.

    So I suggest you get over it, and realize all you're arguing is a what if. Anybody could argue what ifs. What if Ozai never had an Agni Kai with Zuko and he stayed in the Fire Nation, would he have gotten with Katara? Probably not. What if instead of simply burning his face, Ozai killed Zuko.

    What ifs are good for speculation, but you can't use them as arguments, because guess what, they simply don't work.

    ^ This. The point is, it didn't happen, so you can't base a ship on 'what if'. Zuko didn't choose Katara (and vice versa) simply because the creators didn't agree with the ship and for no other reason. It has nothing to do with censorship issues.

    caseybocook: Whoa, burn much to Zuko? xD

    Um let's c a Kattang kiss is a hug and a kiss at most, a Zutara kiss would be a grope kiss at the least, so personally i think cencorship issues had somethign to do with it, and kids are its main target audiance so the main relationship has to be in a kiddy relationship instead of a passionate one (Sukka was for the teens) but that's just my opinion

    But wasn't. Plus, a loving kiss isn't always the most passionate kiss.
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