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| Still, KATAANG!!!! |
Edited on 04/05/2008 10:34am
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| Still, KATAANG!!!! |
| daveshanFromGMU wrote: | ||
Do you people just enjoy seeing me type the same stuff over and over again? If Aang can go into the AS and still have Katara, every problem they faced since CoD was completely meaningless since Aang could have just glowed it up and PWNED everyone and everything. What do you expect to happen? Aang goes AS, finds that he can still have Katara, goes back to the guru and says, "Hey, it turns out I can have the AS and love Katara. Didn't you say I couldn't?" to which the guru replies, "Actually, no. You missinterepretted what I said. All you had to do was give her up for those moments that you were in the AS. I probably should have clarified that, since the fate of the world was hanging in the balance, but I guess it slipped my mind. Oh well, I guess Ba Sing Se falling and your DoBS invasion failing was all for nothing. Have some onion and banana juice." ? As for the other avatars: 1. Kuruk met his fiance long after he became a full avatar. 2. Roku didn't talk to Ta Min for over 12 years while he was becoming a full avatar. Before that, he barely, if ever, talked to her. Remember this quote: "Hey, it's that girl that didn't even know you existed." There's no way that she was his attachment. |
| Spike815 wrote: | ||||
You seem to enjoy using the same 2 arguements... Aang didn't misunderstand anything. YOU did. Aang sees that one thing in his life will have to come before the other, the Avatar State or Katara. That is a big deal for Aang, he does see Katara as more important than the fate of the world. If/when Aang mans up and gets his priorities straight, he might let Katara go because he can't devote his entire life for her. But that's a big maybe, becuase there is no reason Katara can't come second to his Avatar duties. (I think she can rescue herself.) |
| SapphireStones wrote: | ||||||
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Nah, I agree. I support whatever ship happens on the show (although I'll like Zutara regardless) but I'm more shippy towards older Kataang. That way, by that time Aang will have hopefully gotten over thinking that Katara is the be all and end all of the universe and can pay equal attention to the rest of the world.
| SapphireStones wrote: | ||||||
I have to agree with that one. Just because Aang would put his Avatar duties before Katara doesn't mean he'd have to fully let her go in order to do so. It doesn't mean they couldn't still work out in the end. ....AH! What am I SAYING?!?!?!?! ...*flees* |
| tomtitan wrote: | ||||||||
if someone makes a valid zutara point i will accept it. i accept the XROD scene as zutara evidence for example. |
| tomtitan wrote: |
| what you're doing is pretty noble. you're agreeing with what you know is right even though it's bad for your cause. it's great when people do that. it's a great sign of morals in a person. if someone makes a valid zutara point i will accept it. i accept the XROD scene as zutara evidence for example. |
No one ever says this stuff to me when I acknowledge that I don't have a counter to a pro-Katara and Aang point.
Spike, any way you slice your argument, giving Aang the AS and Katara is saying that Ba Sing Se fell because of a misunderstanding between Aang and the guru. If Aang can beat Ozai before the comet and without the AS, there was no point for either.*
Also, what's this misinterpreting what the guru says? Aang didn't want to go into it because he'd give up Katara. I'm saying that if he goes into it, he'll have to give up Katara. We both interpreted it the same way. Btw, I'm still waiting to hear what you think of my "very powerful bender" vs "powerful bender" argument. You know, since you are so caught up in exact wording.
*To tomtitan about something he said earlier:
Tom, there is NO chance that Aang could beat Comet Powered Ozai without the AS. Aang's character is not someone who could do that. I know you didn't actually think he could do it and that it would just make for a really cool fight, but he can't. If someone as smart as Sokka was the avatar, then I could see that happening, but not Aang.
| daveshanFromGMU wrote: | ||
No one ever says this stuff to me when I acknowledge that I don't have a counter to a pro-Katara and Aang point. Spike, any way you slice your argument, giving Aang the AS and Katara is saying that Ba Sing Se fell because of a misunderstanding between Aang and the guru. If Aang can beat Ozai before the comet and without the AS, there was no point for either.* Also, what's this misinterpreting what the guru says? Aang didn't want to go into it because he'd give up Katara. I'm saying that if he goes into it, he'll have to give up Katara. We both interpreted it the same way. Btw, I'm still waiting to hear what you think of my "very powerful bender" vs "powerful bender" argument. You know, since you are so caught up in exact wording.
*To tomtitan about something he said earlier: Tom, there is NO chance that Aang could beat Comet Powered Ozai without the AS. Aang's character is not someone who could do that. I know you didn't actually think he could do it and that it would just make for a really cool fight, but he can't. If someone as smart as Sokka was the avatar, then I could see that happening, but not Aang. |
| tomtitan wrote: |
| but if he does use the avatar state it's not him fighting, it's his past lives. if aang just glowed it up and stomped that firelord then what would be the point in him learning all 4 elements? it's like we sat through 3 seasons of him training and practicing for nothing. |
Also, it is him because he's in full control when he does it the right way. Besides, look at it this way, it's not really Ozai either. It's the comet's power that's giving him awesome strength. So, Aang'll have the power and knowledge of all past avatars and Ozai will have the comet. It'll be even.
| daveshanFromGMU wrote: | ||
Also, it is him because he's in full control when he does it the right way. Besides, look at it this way, it's not really Ozai either. It's the comet's power that's giving him awesome strength. So, Aang'll have the power and knowledge of all past avatars and Ozai will have the comet. It'll be even. |
| tomtitan wrote: | ||||
in 201, he unleashed a furious earthbending attack in the AS, and 8 episodes later he struggled with the most basic earthbending. face it, his bending skills don't affect his power when in the avatar state. and even if he's in full control when he's in the AS it's still not his power, it's the power of his past lives. |
| AnimeAngel90 wrote: | ||||||
Aang needs to learn the 4 elements to become the Avatar. He can't be all glowly all the time, he needs to know the elements to do other fights and stuff (like making his way to the palace - he won't glow it up the whole way), but needs the AS for the fights where his bending isn't enough. He needs to learn the 4 elements so he isn't vulnerable all the time, but needs the AS for the times when the 4 elements aren't enough. Like fighting Ozai. Aang will probably try to bend his way out of it, but in the end, the AS is all he can do to beat Ozai. His elemental bending won't be enough without the AS. So yeah, he does have the power of his past lives, but he has their weakness (die in AS, avatar ends thing) too. So he needs to learn the 4 elements so he doesn't have to rely solely on the AS - AS is for when elements alone aren't enough. He'll need help to beat Ozai, so why not use his past lives? its the only way he can win. |
Wiselad, I think you aren't giving the comet enough credit. If AS Aang is that much better than CP Ozai, the impending comet means nothing. Roku would have just told Aang that he needs to master the AS as soon as possible so Ozai couldn't hurt others.
| daveshanFromGMU wrote: |
| Wiselad, I think you aren't giving the comet enough credit. If AS Aang is that much better than CP Ozai, the impending comet means nothing. Roku would have just told Aang that he needs to master the AS as soon as possible so Ozai couldn't hurt others. |
Are those two heads doing what I think they're doing?
| MarryLarry wrote: | ||
Are those two heads doing what I think they're doing? |
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Nothing turns me on more than watching two severed heads doing the nasty.
| MarryLarry wrote: |
Nothing turns me on more than watching two severed heads doing the nasty. |
Currently, Zuko and Katara's heads are the hottest pair. Aunt Wu and the guru are a close second.
