Sektos wrote: | ||
"NO WAIT- screw that, at only FOURTEEN im going to marry you my prepubescent love bunny" |
and the marrying age was at 16 back then so REMEMBER THAT!
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Sektos wrote: | ||
"NO WAIT- screw that, at only FOURTEEN im going to marry you my prepubescent love bunny" |
bl0ndi3girl18 wrote: | ||||
and the marrying age was at 16 back then so REMEMBER THAT! |
Sektos wrote: | ||||||
Haha in the watertribe atleast and of course people married alot younger throughout history. I did mean my post to be comedic BUUUUT my point is that the creators really jumped the shark when it came to the Kataang relationship- specifically Katara. Its Personal Opinion, and ive argued it before so not too interested in doing it again |
isabelwhatx wrote: |
You've got to realize that this is NATURAL for Katara. Her people marry this early. It's not that big of a deal to fall in love that early on her part. |
Sektos wrote: |
[ We get that ISabelwhatX, but my point is that (again imo) that there wasnt enough developement and that, as a modern day show and because of who the characters are at ppl. Remember Katara is anything BUT "natural" for WT and doesnt agree with the old customs. She wasnt so happy about the prearranged, early marriage thing or the fact they tried to deny her her right to learn waterbending. Aang and Katara should be dating and then partners before they suddenly jump into marriage. |
^ *facepalms* You know, when he stated that the kiss was foreshadowing a wedding between Aang and Katara, he wasn't saying they were going to get hitched the next day, he was talking about about later on in their life. So that will give them plenty of time to date.
And as for there not being "any development" for Kataang, LMAO!! Next...
(But FTR, I do think the whole Aang/Katara part in EIP was completely unnecesarry. Since they wasn't going to play up the angst, they should've ended that scene on a positive note. But even with that, saying that Kataang was somehow underdeveloped is still a stupid thing to say)
Aaand speaking of Kataang, on the DVD commentaries during the kiss scene, Mike and Bryan were talking about how the animators were kinda nervous about the kiss because it seemed too "passionate and deep" for a kids show and M & B were all like "no it's gotta be that way!!" LOL! It was rather funny. So blame M & B for the borderline PG-13 kiss xD
Avaang18 wrote: | ||
^ *facepalms* You know, when he stated that the kiss was foreshadowing a wedding between Aang and Katara, he wasn't saying they were going to get hitched the next day, he was talking about about later on in their life. So that will give them plenty of time to date. And as for there not being "any development" for Kataang, LMAO!! Next...
(But FTR, I do think the whole Aang/Katara part in EIP was completely unnecesarry. Since they wasn't going to play up the angst, they should've ended that scene on a positive note. But even with that, saying that Kataang was somehow underdeveloped is still a stupid thing to say)
Aaand speaking of Kataang, on the DVD commentaries during the kiss scene, Mike and Bryan were talking about how the animators were kinda nervous about the kiss because it seemed too "passionate and deep" for a kids show and M & B were all like "no it's gotta be that way!!" LOL! It was rather funny. So blame M & B for the borderline PG-13 kiss xD |
Avaang18 wrote: |
*facepalms* You know, when he stated that the kiss was foreshadowing a wedding between Aang and Katara, he wasn't saying they were going to get hitched the next day, he was talking about about later on in their life. So that will give them plenty of time to date.
And as for there not being "any development" for Kataang, LMAO!! Next...
(But FTR, I do think the whole Aang/Katara part in EIP was completely unnecesarry. Since they wasn't going to play up the angst, they should've ended that scene on a positive note. But even with that, saying that Kataang was somehow underdeveloped is still a stupid thing to say) Aaand speaking of Kataang, on the DVD commentaries during the kiss scene, Mike and Bryan were talking about how the animators were kinda nervous about the kiss because it seemed too "passionate and deep" for a kids show and M & B were all like "no it's gotta be that way!!" LOL! It was rather funny. So blame M & B for the borderline PG-13 kiss xD |
LOL- haha its called reading last past ;p - "Prob really meant that it Confirms the relationship and that they'll eventually marry " and "Hell i would have minded a flashforward to them as Adults at their wedding instead of Ba SIng Sei scene (thou i think that end scene was beautiful, but the kiss was out of place for the developement shown)" See im not going into the arguement about Kataang, why? not because i dont have point, but because ive repeated them a thousand times on the site lol.
The only thing i'll say is the was plenty of Aang, but little of Kat, shown in the show. And as ive said before, and Ax above, she was confused by her emotions AND FINALLY got to see some of her feelings voiced in EIP. Its basically what ive been hoping for since DOBS and imo the creators realising that they better hurry up and address Katara! , because she had "mostly" up to that point shown little interest or thought to Aang in a romantic manner, with DOBS being turning point where she had to face realisation Aang likes her and how she feels about him (i was flamed for this after DOBS lol). This is exactly what was raised in EIP, My prob is that that they didnt show proper resolution to Katara in the finale afterwards- instead Katara just Kissed Aang with no explanation; which is why i think that having same scene but instead close up of them reaching and holding eachothers hands would have fit the mood and developement better, and also imply that yes they will get together.
Ive got some of my thought on this on my blog if want to check out- unfortunately not everything not very good with up dating it regularly
Sektos wrote: | ||
LOL- haha its called reading last past ;p - "Prob really meant that it Confirms the relationship and that they'll eventually marry " and "Hell i would have minded a flashforward to them as Adults at their wedding instead of Ba SIng Sei scene (thou i think that end scene was beautiful, but the kiss was out of place for the developement shown)" See im not going into the arguement about Kataang, why? not because i dont have point, but because ive repeated them a thousand times on the site lol.
The only thing i'll say is the was plenty of Aang, but little of Kat, shown in the show. And as ive said before, and Ax above, she was confused by her emotions AND FINALLY got to see some of her feelings voiced in EIP. Its basically what ive been hoping for since DOBS and imo the creators realising that they better hurry up and address Katara! , because she had "mostly" up to that point shown little interest or thought to Aang in a romantic manner, with DOBS being turning point where she had to face realisation Aang likes her and how she feels about him (i was flamed for this after DOBS lol). This is exactly what was raised in EIP, My prob is that that they didnt show proper resolution to Katara in the finale afterwards- instead Katara just Kissed Aang with no explanation; which is why i think that having same scene but instead close up of them reaching and holding eachothers hands would have fit the mood and developement better, and also imply that yes they will get together.
Ive got some of my thought on this on my blog if want to check out- unfortunately not everything not very good with up dating it regularly |
What's to explain? Katara was initially confused about how she felt about Aang, sometime in the finale, apparently during the corronation scene, she resolved her feelings of confusion.
I have a really big rant on this, but I have to go for now, so I'll post it later.
Axrendale wrote: |
What's to explain? Katara was initially confused about how she felt about Aang, sometime in the finale, apparently during the corronation scene, she resolved her feelings of confusion. I have a really big rant on this, but I have to go for now, so I'll post it later. |
Well as you said, at some point she must done that. BUT WHAT made her realise her feelings for him were romantic and when did this happen. They had perfect set-up! i'd predicted Aang would disappear, and i theorised that this would make Katara realise how much she does care for him. But we didnt get that instead they jumped it. And yes it was important because it was proper resolution to the Kataang relationship and Katara. One of the things that has to be kept in mind of course is that the show was initially geared for 12 and under, and thou creators know the fan-base is far greater than that they still have to make sure its acceptable for the young kids. One thing they dont get, or really care about, is of course relationships. The creators had to focus on Aang as main character and as such his romantic feelings above the other's (thou they made good job of the others ) and as such developement with some other the other characters were sped up or had chunks skipped over- Maizu and Katara. Again this is my opinion, so of course everyone welcome to disagree
Sektos wrote: | ||
Well as you said, at some point she must done that. BUT WHAT made her realise her feelings for him were romantic and when did this happen. They had perfect set-up! i'd predicted Aang would disappear, and i theorised that this would make Katara realise how much she does care for him. But we didnt get that instead they jumped it. And yes it was important because it was proper resolution to the Kataang relationship and Katara. One of the things that has to be kept in mind of course is that the show was initially geared for 12 and under, and thou creators know the fan-base is far greater than that they still have to make sure its acceptable for the young kids. One thing they dont get, or really care about, is of course relationships. The creators had to focus on Aang as main character and as such his romantic feelings above the other's (thou they made good job of the others ) and as such developement with some other the other characters were sped up or had chunks skipped over- Maizu and Katara. Again this is my opinion, so of course everyone welcome to disagree |
*disagrees*
Have you read the Inheritance trilogy (Eragon, Eldest, and Brisingr)? There is a romance issuue in the book whose fundamentals are very similar to the ones we are arguing over here. I just got the third book - I am currently reading it. Let me finish it, and I suspect I may have a greater answer in depth for you.
Axrendale wrote: | ||||
*disagrees* Have you read the Inheritance trilogy (Eragon, Eldest, and Brisingr)? There is a romance issuue in the book whose fundamentals are very similar to the ones we are arguing over here. I just got the third book - I am currently reading it. Let me finish it, and I suspect I may have a greater answer in depth for you. |
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If you've only seen the movie, then it's no wonder you've picked up that impression. That movie was cr**iest piece of s*** that has ever been labelled an adaption It turned a really, really good book into something so bad, I literally threw up in the cinema near the end (I was aksed to leave). Just kidding. But seriously, that movie no more represents the book than the Sozin's Comet adaption represents the real Sozin's Comet.
I simply disagree because it is fairly obvious that we have reached a point where nobody can win this argument. A good deal of this sort of thing depends on the viewers perception of the story, and perception is always going to be different for everyone. For me, the Kataang developement in the story has always been very obvious, and perfectly logical. For you, apparently not so.